OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑
Mon May 18, 2020 8:33 am
jenkins.math wrote: ↑
Mon May 18, 2020 8:26 am
mgscott wrote: ↑
Mon May 18, 2020 7:59 am
Lamar's success as a passer is 100% tied into his success and threat as a runner. You're kidding yourself if you think he has those passing numbers and the team success if he doesn't have his running ability.
Was going to say exactly this. The wide throwing lanes he gets are predicated on teams focusing on stopping the run first. If he stops running, every one of those passing numbers is going to nose dive. He hasn't shown the ability yet to sit in the pocket, survey the field, and then fit the ball into tight windows consistently like your typical non-mobile QB.
The addition of another speed guy to that offense makes me think they are just going to pull the ole 4 Verts concept from the Vick days and just let run around and make plays. If one of the speedsters gets behind the defense, he will let it fly. If the safeties help over the top, that's a ton of running room for Lamar, or a wide open TE over the middle.
Some on here think these additions are to pass more and I see it as doubling down on Lamar's running ability more than anything. It's even more space in the middle of the field for the TE or him taking off.
I think this whole paradigm is antiquated. Why would you want a quarterback to make low percentage throws fitting the ball into tight windows when you can create high percentage opportunities?
The whole Vick comparison is wildly off base, and misses the boat comparing what Harbaugh and Roman are doing vs. Jim Mora Jr. tried with Vick. I’m not even sure if you’re describing the Falcons offense, or what guys did with the Falcons in Madden.
The idea that adding more WRs is an attempt to increase a QBs rushing attempts is... an interesting one.
I never said I wanted him to make low percentage throws. But you're trying to hype up Lamar's arm and passing ability by itself, and that is false. Put Lamar's arm on an unathletic body and that QB isn't very good.
Vick ran 4 verts in Atlana but did it a lot in Philly with DJax.
The idea is based on what type of WR they added: a small burner. They didn't draft some big chain mover or stellar route runner. It's another guy to stretch the field, make the safeties account for him over the top, which in turn opens up your throwing lanes in the middle. Or just gives Lamar more space to run around and make a play.
What's funny here is I think what the Ravens are doing is incredibly smart. They know what they have and are all in on it. I just disagree with people that want to act like we are watching a faster, more athletic Elway here.
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