Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Smoking Guns » Fri May 17, 2019 5:59 pm

Just took him at 2.3 in my draft- think it is great value

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Ice » Fri May 17, 2019 6:03 pm

Smoking Guns wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:59 pm
Just took him at 2.3 in my draft- think it is great value
Wouldn’t call that value. He is pretty raw especially since they just signed Floyd. That said, I like his value in 2-3 years.

If your talking Brown that was a steal IMO

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Smoking Guns » Fri May 17, 2019 6:11 pm

Ice wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 6:03 pm
Smoking Guns wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:59 pm
Just took him at 2.3 in my draft- think it is great value
Wouldn’t call that value. He is pretty raw especially since they just signed Floyd. That said, I like his value in 2-3 years.

If your talking Brown that was a steal IMO
Sorry - just read the previous few posts - I took Brown.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Jigga94 » Fri May 17, 2019 9:48 pm

JTLoh wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:25 pm
Miles Boykins is the best value in the draft.
I remember people saying that about Jaleel Scott too...
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby JTLoh » Sat May 18, 2019 5:17 am

Ice wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:53 pm
JTLoh wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:25 pm
Miles Boykins is the best value in the draft.
Maybe if you get him in the 3rd or 4th and he hits! He is not without talent but no where close to M. Brown In overall skill set.

I do like his upside some.
It does say best value, not best.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby blemly » Sat May 18, 2019 11:14 am

Thanks to this thread I made a move to scoop Brown up at the 2.04. Feels like fantastic value.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat May 18, 2019 11:49 am

Jigga94 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:48 pm
JTLoh wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:25 pm
Miles Boykins is the best value in the draft.
I remember people saying that about Jaleel Scott too...
I actually agree with JTLoh. Getting Boykin late 2nd or early 3rd in 1QB leagues is great value. He's got good draft capital, insane athleticism and although he broke out late, had a great final season. What more could you want from that range of rookie pick.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby steelman » Sat May 18, 2019 1:07 pm

Brown went 1.4 in my league. I was eyeing him at either 1.7 or 1.9, but he was long gone

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby ArrylT » Sun May 19, 2019 12:37 pm

I've been able to acquire/draft 4 shares of Marquise Brown so far. :)
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Servo » Wed May 22, 2019 8:25 am

If M. Brown is falling into the 2nd round of drafts, I'd have no problem picking him there...when he's going 1.03 in both a 2QB + SF of mine...that I'm not going to do.

Food for thought, even with 2 Heisman winning, #1 Overall Pick QBs...Brown's Market Share Score*** (while not terrible/awful/bad) was no better than John Ross' at Washington. Sure, Brown also had competition from Mark Andrews for one year, and CD Lamb for two, yet, Ross also had competition from dynasty darling Dante Pettis in his breakout year...with a lot worse QB play.

This isn't a post to say I'm not drafting Brown, but don't have a strong gut feeling that he's going to be "fantastic".

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby kmbryant09 » Thu May 23, 2019 8:01 am

Servo wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 8:25 am
If M. Brown is falling into the 2nd round of drafts, I'd have no problem picking him there...when he's going 1.03 in both a 2QB + SF of mine...that I'm not going to do.

Food for thought, even with 2 Heisman winnings, #1 Overall Pick QBs...Brown's Market Share Score*** (while not terrible/awful/bad) was no better than John Ross' at Washington. Sure, Brown also had competition from Mark Andrews for one year, and CD Lamb for two, yet, Ross also had competition from dynasty darling Dante Pettis in his breakout year...with a lot worse QB play.

This isn't a post to say I'm not drafting Brown, but don't have a strong gut feeling that he's going to be "fantastic".

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Definitely a fair point and raises at least a question that should be addressed / answered. But I believe Chubb experienced similar question marks coming out of Georgia after sharing the load with Michel.

Sometimes really good college (and then pro) players split workloads with other really good college (and then pro) players. And that Oklahoma offense, and their QBs, are pretty good at spreading the ball around.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby killer_of_giants » Thu May 23, 2019 8:19 am

steelman wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 1:07 pm
Brown went 1.4 in my league. I was eyeing him at either 1.7 or 1.9, but he was long gone
wait are you me??!?

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Servo » Fri May 24, 2019 9:16 am

"ESPN Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley noted "several" of Jackson's passes "wobbled through the air" at the first week of OTAs. And Jackson agreed that things just aren't right yet from an accuracy standpoint. "It's been crazy. It's been everywhere," Jackson said of his throws. "I feel like my hand is a little too high on the football and that makes the ball go out of whack a lot." The Ravens are changing up their whole offense under new OC Greg Roman, and at the same time, Jackson is obviously trying to fix his mechanics to become a better passer in a passing league. It's going to be a work in progress and something that may truly never get totally fixed." - Rotoworld

Lol, let the rollercoaster begin
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 24, 2019 9:23 am

Servo wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 9:16 am
"ESPN Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley noted "several" of Jackson's passes "wobbled through the air" at the first week of OTAs. And Jackson agreed that things just aren't right yet from an accuracy standpoint. "It's been crazy. It's been everywhere," Jackson said of his throws. "I feel like my hand is a little too high on the football and that makes the ball go out of whack a lot." The Ravens are changing up their whole offense under new OC Greg Roman, and at the same time, Jackson is obviously trying to fix his mechanics to become a better passer in a passing league. It's going to be a work in progress and something that may truly never get totally fixed." - Rotoworld

Lol, let the rollercoaster begin
Trying to fix your mechanics in year 2 of your NFL career is not a good thing. I just don't have any faith in Lamar ever becoming a good passer. Scheming and using his athletic ability to try and find ways to get him easier throws is what will probably happen. He has a lot of speed around him. It's going to be hard to predict week to week. For Brown, I think he will be a volatile player to start. Best Ball is a better format to draft him IMO.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Lumps » Fri May 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Servo wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 9:16 am
"ESPN Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley noted "several" of Jackson's passes "wobbled through the air" at the first week of OTAs. And Jackson agreed that things just aren't right yet from an accuracy standpoint. "It's been crazy. It's been everywhere," Jackson said of his throws. "I feel like my hand is a little too high on the football and that makes the ball go out of whack a lot." The Ravens are changing up their whole offense under new OC Greg Roman, and at the same time, Jackson is obviously trying to fix his mechanics to become a better passer in a passing league. It's going to be a work in progress and something that may truly never get totally fixed." - Rotoworld

Lol, let the rollercoaster begin
When I saw this, I thought, "Awesome. When Jackson fails his WRs, Brown looks like a bust because they can't get him the ball, Boykin doesn't get any targets because there aren't any more leftover, I'm gonna buy Brown for a 2020 2nd and Boykin for a 4th.
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