Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby PR0v3 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:19 pm

Nice bounce back game for Baltimore’s alpha WR1.

Looks like Baltimore’s top dog is headed for an elite top 5 WR1 finish this season.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:57 pm

PR0v3 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:19 pm Nice bounce back game for Baltimore’s alpha WR1.

Looks like Baltimore’s top dog is headed for an elite top 5 WR1 finish this season.
Nope. The problem was, they tried to funnel targets to a guy who isn't that good, while the guy who would make Lamar better was playing 2nd fiddle. :wink:
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby gogobradyarm » Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:42 pm

Happy to be officially on-board the Hollywood hype train as a full time owner practicing bias. His dynasty ranking/adp hopefully gets a big boost, as he is a WR1 (6 overall) right now in PPR.

I traded Keenan Allen for him (straight up).
12 Team - PPR - 30man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:54 pm

gogobradyarm wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:42 pm Happy to be officially on-board the Hollywood hype train as a full time owner practicing bias. His dynasty ranking/adp hopefully gets a big boost, as he is a WR1 (6 overall) right now in PPR.

I traded Keenan Allen for him (straight up).
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby gogobradyarm » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:01 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:54 pm
gogobradyarm wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:42 pm Happy to be officially on-board the Hollywood hype train as a full time owner practicing bias. His dynasty ranking/adp hopefully gets a big boost, as he is a WR1 (6 overall) right now in PPR.

I traded Keenan Allen for him (straight up).
Here's a man who adapts to new information. I like it.
You sold me on him
12 Team - PPR - 30man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton

2024: 1.01, 1.07
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Anteaters » Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:46 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:54 pm
gogobradyarm wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:42 pm Happy to be officially on-board the Hollywood hype train as a full time owner practicing bias. His dynasty ranking/adp hopefully gets a big boost, as he is a WR1 (6 overall) right now in PPR.

I traded Keenan Allen for him (straight up).
Here's a man who adapts to new information. I like it.
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Welcome aboard. Despite having He-who-shall-not-be-named's name in your username and using that obnoxious avatar, you're a pretty good guy! :thumbup:

Remember, when they ask you "what can Brown do for you?" the answer is "just win baby."
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby gogobradyarm » Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:19 am

Anteaters wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:46 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:54 pm
gogobradyarm wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:42 pm Happy to be officially on-board the Hollywood hype train as a full time owner practicing bias. His dynasty ranking/adp hopefully gets a big boost, as he is a WR1 (6 overall) right now in PPR.

I traded Keenan Allen for him (straight up).
Here's a man who adapts to new information. I like it.
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Welcome aboard. Despite having He-who-shall-not-be-named's name in your username and using that obnoxious avatar, you're a pretty good guy! :thumbup:

Remember, when they ask you "what can Brown do for you?" the answer is "just win baby."
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QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton

2024: 1.01, 1.07
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby nathanq42 » Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:52 am

So... Now that you have come to the conclusion that brown is better than Bateman at this point... Where would you peg him in terms of value? Someone just out him on the block and is asking for 2 firsts

Seems like a solid deal for a 24 year old WR sitting at WR6 on the season
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby steelman » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:07 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:52 am So... Now that you have come to the conclusion that brown is better than Bateman at this point... Where would you peg him in terms of value? Someone just out him on the block and is asking for 2 firsts

Seems like a solid deal for a 24 year old WR sitting at WR6 on the season
I would easily pay 2 1st's for him

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Shankopotamus » Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:05 pm

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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby gogobradyarm » Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:10 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:52 am So... Now that you have come to the conclusion that brown is better than Bateman at this point... Where would you peg him in terms of value? Someone just out him on the block and is asking for 2 firsts

Seems like a solid deal for a 24 year old WR sitting at WR6 on the season
I'd prefer Brown over two firsts at this point. He is producing at a stud level and is only 24. That said, if one of those firsts was a top 3 pick, it's close.

Curious what other people think Brown's value is.
12 Team - PPR - 30man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton

2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 3x 1st
Champ: 2020, 2021
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Anteaters » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:57 am

Two firsts sounds about right to me.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

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14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby frerichs5 » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:28 am

Traded for Brown about a month ago on a disaster of a team. Sent Kittle for Brown, mid-late 1st, mid-late 2nd and Juwan Johnson. Feeling ok about it right now since that team is going no where for at least a couple years. At the time didn’t really like it, but couldn’t get any other offers at all.
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WR - Chase, Lamb, Metcalf, Diontae, Ridley, Bateman, Thielen, Iosivas, Charlie Jones, Derius Davis, Rakim Jarrett
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby Ice » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:08 am

gogobradyarm wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:10 pm
nathanq42 wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:52 am So... Now that you have come to the conclusion that brown is better than Bateman at this point... Where would you peg him in terms of value? Someone just out him on the block and is asking for 2 firsts

Seems like a solid deal for a 24 year old WR sitting at WR6 on the season
I'd prefer Brown over two firsts at this point. He is producing at a stud level and is only 24. That said, if one of those firsts was a top 3 pick, it's close.

Curious what other people think Brown's value is.
I was on an Island when I drafted Brown 1.3 in a league here based on his incredible upside out of college. That draft was before the NFL draft.

I wouldn't trade him for a top 3 pick in this draft.

Brown is just now coming into his own and will get better than he is today over the next few years. It is not as far fetched today as it was when I claimed he had A. Brown upside coming out of college.

Trading players away that are young, lightning fast, and almost always open is more often than not a recipe for disaster. His actual value is still higher than his market value.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

Postby CGW » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:03 pm

Ice wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:08 am
gogobradyarm wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:10 pm
nathanq42 wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:52 am So... Now that you have come to the conclusion that brown is better than Bateman at this point... Where would you peg him in terms of value? Someone just out him on the block and is asking for 2 firsts

Seems like a solid deal for a 24 year old WR sitting at WR6 on the season
I'd prefer Brown over two firsts at this point. He is producing at a stud level and is only 24. That said, if one of those firsts was a top 3 pick, it's close.

Curious what other people think Brown's value is.
I was on an Island when I drafted Brown 1.3 in a league here based on his incredible upside out of college. That draft was before the NFL draft.

I wouldn't trade him for a top 3 pick in this draft.

Brown is just now coming into his own and will get better than he is today over the next few years. It is not as far fetched today as it was when I claimed he had A. Brown upside coming out of college.

Trading players away that are young, lightning fast, and almost always open is more often than not a recipe for disaster. His actual value is still higher than his market value.
Taking him at 1.03 was a nice call, but at the time I probably wouldn't have agreed with it. And I've always been marginally in on Brown. I was able to take him at 2.01 in a SF. That draft class pretty much fixed my rebuild in one season. Murray, Monty, Brown, Brown, Diontae. Just wish I had scooped up someone else instead of JJAW at 2.04...


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