Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft
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Just because he's smaller and fast doesn't necessarily mean he's a djax/ginn type. He's more complete than that. If anything, I see him more as a poor mans Tyreek/rich mans John Brown.
He has top 12 WR in his range of outcomes, and its not a big stretch based on his tape last yr.
He has top 12 WR in his range of outcomes, and its not a big stretch based on his tape last yr.
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Yeah he's definitely a perfect fit for best ball.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:41 amGrabbed him in a best ball league at 2.08 in a SF/TE premium. I feel that's the best format for him.qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:30 amThis is my problem with him as well. He's super fun to watch, but those boom/bust kind of guys are what I want to have in my flex spot, not as my wr2. I was offered Brown straight up for Pittman - who went in the mid 2nd in our draft this year - and I'm honestly not sure I accept for mainly that reason.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:57 am I thought Hollywood would be a better NFL player than fantasy player. He reminded me of Desean Jackson in that he won't necessarily get the weekly volume to be a WR2 start, and you're really playing the boom or bust game every week. I also felt like he was going to get banged up and miss some time. Well that seemed to be exactly what happened for Hollywood in year 1 and those aren't the types of players I am eager to obtain unless it's best ball. Good player, but not someone I will ever buy at the going rate in a league.
Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft
Agree. Having a season under his belt and finally healthy I expect a solid year. He played quite a bit in the slot last year and his versatility should further expand this season.Johnny Canuck wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:52 am Just because he's smaller and fast doesn't necessarily mean he's a djax/ginn type. He's more complete than that. If anything, I see him more as a poor mans Tyreek/rich mans John Brown.
He has top 12 WR in his range of outcomes, and its not a big stretch based on his tape last yr.
Glad to see he was working out with Lamar and cousin Antonio last month. Scary how similarly built he is to Antonio in the picture published.
Tons of upside to grow with Lamar.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft
To be fair, I don't think many have him as a WR2/top 24 in rankings. I've seen him anywhere in that 30-45 rangeqazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:30 amThis is my problem with him as well. He's super fun to watch, but those boom/bust kind of guys are what I want to have in my flex spot, not as my wr2. I was offered Brown straight up for Pittman - who went in the mid 2nd in our draft this year - and I'm honestly not sure I accept for mainly that reason.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:57 am I thought Hollywood would be a better NFL player than fantasy player. He reminded me of Desean Jackson in that he won't necessarily get the weekly volume to be a WR2 start, and you're really playing the boom or bust game every week. I also felt like he was going to get banged up and miss some time. Well that seemed to be exactly what happened for Hollywood in year 1 and those aren't the types of players I am eager to obtain unless it's best ball. Good player, but not someone I will ever buy at the going rate in a league.
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This is kinda where I thought people valued him as. I have him higher which is why I was targeting him. I think he surprises people this year.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 10:22 amTo be fair, I don't think many have him as a WR2/top 24 in rankings. I've seen him anywhere in that 30-45 rangeqazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:30 amThis is my problem with him as well. He's super fun to watch, but those boom/bust kind of guys are what I want to have in my flex spot, not as my wr2. I was offered Brown straight up for Pittman - who went in the mid 2nd in our draft this year - and I'm honestly not sure I accept for mainly that reason.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:57 am I thought Hollywood would be a better NFL player than fantasy player. He reminded me of Desean Jackson in that he won't necessarily get the weekly volume to be a WR2 start, and you're really playing the boom or bust game every week. I also felt like he was going to get banged up and miss some time. Well that seemed to be exactly what happened for Hollywood in year 1 and those aren't the types of players I am eager to obtain unless it's best ball. Good player, but not someone I will ever buy at the going rate in a league.
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Not an owner and I agree that is where I would have him, but I don't think anyone that drafted him thinks of him that low. At least not from what I can tell. Def no discount to be had due to last year in my limited experience.smbkrypt24 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:27 amThis is kinda where I thought people valued him as. I have him higher which is why I was targeting him. I think he surprises people this year.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 10:22 amTo be fair, I don't think many have him as a WR2/top 24 in rankings. I've seen him anywhere in that 30-45 rangeqazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:30 am
This is my problem with him as well. He's super fun to watch, but those boom/bust kind of guys are what I want to have in my flex spot, not as my wr2. I was offered Brown straight up for Pittman - who went in the mid 2nd in our draft this year - and I'm honestly not sure I accept for mainly that reason.
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I agree if I drafted him I would want to see him healthy this year and not sell low. There are concerns with health and size that I was hoping those owners were concerned with. I think he will be a back end WR1/WR2 for his career.TimeWillTell wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:35 amNot an owner and I agree that is where I would have him, but I don't think anyone that drafted him thinks of him that low. At least not from what I can tell. Def no discount to be had due to last year in my limited experience.smbkrypt24 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:27 amThis is kinda where I thought people valued him as. I have him higher which is why I was targeting him. I think he surprises people this year.
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Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft
He is one of my picks to breakout this year. He's obviously spending a ton of time working out this off season. Not sure he will manage 15lbs of muscle, but if he does I'm not sure it'll slow him down much. I still think he was playing a bit slow last year. I'm hoping for some improved consistency from him as the offense evolves. He's got a ton of upside and should be a target leader in that offense.
The video comparing him to DK shows how far he's come. Dude is jacked.
The video comparing him to DK shows how far he's come. Dude is jacked.
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Any nay-sayers want to take the floor??
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Lol I'm just honestly surprised it's all hype in here. Yes I'm a Ravens fan, but I've never been sold on Hollywood... I'm still on record as preferring DK.
Yes, I hope he blows up and has great chemistry with Lamar, but I'm cautious to say the least
Re: Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft
I'm gonna just go ahead and say I see him having Antonio Brown, his cousin, type of potential. I've kind of thought this for a while, but his rookie season showed me that his size isn't going to stop him from being able to make plays. With his technical polish and standout physical attributes (his speed, quickness, and fluidity is almost unmatched), it's just really hard for me to imagine how defenders can contain him. He's pretty much everything you could ask for in a WR, besides the size, and like I said I didn't see anything last year that signaled his size would stop him from making plays. It will just really be a bummer if he has a foot setback.
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I am just playing. I agree. I've learned long ago that articles such as the one posted a while ago here about Hollywood, along with video's of David Montgomery breaking tackles in practice where defenders aren't go full go to make tackles, and Curtis Samuel running routes vs air aren't anything to drastically alter reality, just perception of it.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 9:26 pmLol I'm just honestly surprised it's all hype in here. Yes I'm a Ravens fan, but I've never been sold on Hollywood... I'm still on record as preferring DK.
Yes, I hope he blows up and has great chemistry with Lamar, but I'm cautious to say the least
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Hollywood Brown shows off his speed Ravens WR Hollywood Brown shows he's still in shape during a workout
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=29176522
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=29176522
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I think the only concern is the Ravens passing volume, but I do feel confident that it increases over the years. From what I saw, Brown's skillset translated seamlessly, even despite missing so much time in the offseason. Very encouraging.
Also, According to PFF, Brown’s 134.4 passer rating when targeted led all wide receivers with at least 50 targets in the regular season.
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