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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby ajf235 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:52 pm

Forget suspension or NFL ban. Hill needs to be in jail. It’s only a matter of time before he does something worse.

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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby Vcize » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm

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It's possible the kid broke his own arm while under Hill's care. Athletic kids play hard. I broke my wrist crashing my bike, hurdling over the handlebars at the pavement (better the wrist than my face). You know, it happens. People are right to investigate, though. Ofc.

edit: wait, how old is the kid?

edit 2: Oh, he's only 3 years old. That's bad. How does a quasi-toddler break their arm?

edit 3: It is plausible to me that Espinal supports Hill with whatever narrative is necessary because he's at risk of losing a 9-digit payday that'll set them both for life, and that's partly why prosecutors gave up (e.g. lack of evidence?). The league office won't be as easily dissuaded.
As a father of two of them I can think of about 1000 ways a 3 year old can break their arm.

But not many that would require a police report and the father under investigation.
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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby ninotoreS » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:02 pm

Vcize wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm
As a father of two of them I can think of about 1000 ways a 3 year old can break their arm.
Ah. Okay. I confess ignorance.
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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:04 pm

Vcize wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm
ninotoreS wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:35 pm
It's possible the kid broke his own arm while under Hill's care. Athletic kids play hard. I broke my wrist crashing my bike, hurdling over the handlebars at the pavement (better the wrist than my face). You know, it happens. People are right to investigate, though. Ofc.

edit: wait, how old is the kid?

edit 2: Oh, he's only 3 years old. That's bad. How does a quasi-toddler break their arm?

edit 3: It is plausible to me that Espinal supports Hill with whatever narrative is necessary because he's at risk of losing a 9-digit payday that'll set them both for life, and that's partly why prosecutors gave up (e.g. lack of evidence?). The league office won't be as easily dissuaded.
As a father of two of them I can think of about 1000 ways a 3 year old can break their arm.

But not many that would require a police report and the father under investigation.
I agree but you also didn't choke and punch your pregnant gf though. That probably warrants an automatic investigation, no?
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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby Pew Dogs » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:09 pm

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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby UATahoe » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:11 pm

Count me as a nervous owner but good lord. Probably best to wait and see what happened. I get it makes for good narrative to make up what you think happened but people nowadays would rather guess than just wait for information. Lol
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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:11 pm

He won't have to worry about banishment. If he's guilty, he's not playing again.

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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby saw061600 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:12 pm

Guys in one league are offering the likes of Funchess for him. Brutal.
Agree with some that state we should probably wait and see since he wasn't charged.
Also agree with those that state he should be banned for life if this was a beating that resulted in broken arm.
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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby Ice » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:15 pm

ninotoreS wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:02 pm
Vcize wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm
As a father of two of them I can think of about 1000 ways a 3 year old can break their arm.
Ah. Okay. I confess ignorance.
Yep a 1000 ways. One of my sons fell off the bed at 3 and broke his arm.

Haven't read anything but really not uncommon for a hospital to file a report.

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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby IR1 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:23 pm

Let’s hope this was just an accidental injury and someone overly cautious reporting a broken bone to the authorities. With his history I’d be concerned but waiting for complete information and the process to play out
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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby slaughterrt » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:26 pm

Ice wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:15 pm
ninotoreS wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:02 pm
Vcize wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm
As a father of two of them I can think of about 1000 ways a 3 year old can break their arm.
Ah. Okay. I confess ignorance.
Yep a 1000 ways. One of my sons fell off the bed at 3 and broke his arm.

Haven't read anything but really not uncommon for a hospital to file a report.
I also a couple kids and agree that there are more than a few ways that a toddler could break an arm. My oldest son climbed on a chair and fell over the top of it when he was prob 4 or 5...broke his arm. My wife was just a few feet away. When I was a wee lad, I jumped out of a swing and broke my arm when I was roughly 5. A couple years later, I decided to try to hurdle a fence...result...broke other arm. My daughter is a year and a half now and is getting into all types of bleep that scares the hell out of me, and if she is anything like her brothers...oh boy.

Certainly not absolving Tyreek of potential guilt, because he has shown to have anger/abusive issues in the past, but a broken bone doesn’t necessarily mean abuse. Abuse? Maybe. Negligence? Maybe. Complete accident? Maybe. Tyreek has lost the benefit of the doubt here and deserves to be investigated as potential abuse/neglect/whatever by the law and the league. We just have to see how it plays out.

It certainly doesn’t look good for him right now though, especially in the court of public opinion (which seems to play a large part in league discipline).

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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby jman3134 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:39 pm

Wow. Wait to jump the gun.
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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby Bot101 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:42 pm

Ice wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:15 pm
ninotoreS wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:02 pm
Vcize wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm
As a father of two of them I can think of about 1000 ways a 3 year old can break their arm.
Ah. Okay. I confess ignorance.
Yep a 1000 ways. One of my sons fell off the bed at 3 and broke his arm.

Haven't read anything but really not uncommon for a hospital to file a report.
A year ago my at the time 2 year old daughter fell 2 feet off a toy rack onto carpet and broke the growth plate in her elbow in 2 different places. It was the freak of all freak injuries. So all anyone can hope is this was a horrible accident either rough housing or somethine of the like and Hill didnt beat his kid. If he did in fact intentionally cause harm to his child, he should be banned indefinitely.

We should definitely NOT say hes guilty without the facts simply because of what he did to his gf years ago.

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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby Elroypedro » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:46 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:04 pm
Vcize wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm
ninotoreS wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:35 pm
It's possible the kid broke his own arm while under Hill's care. Athletic kids play hard. I broke my wrist crashing my bike, hurdling over the handlebars at the pavement (better the wrist than my face). You know, it happens. People are right to investigate, though. Ofc.

edit: wait, how old is the kid?

edit 2: Oh, he's only 3 years old. That's bad. How does a quasi-toddler break their arm?

edit 3: It is plausible to me that Espinal supports Hill with whatever narrative is necessary because he's at risk of losing a 9-digit payday that'll set them both for life, and that's partly why prosecutors gave up (e.g. lack of evidence?). The league office won't be as easily dissuaded.
As a father of two of them I can think of about 1000 ways a 3 year old can break their arm.

But not many that would require a police report and the father under investigation.
I agree but you also didn't choke and punch your pregnant gf though. That probably warrants an automatic investigation, no?
Would that make this potentially the second time he has assaulted this child? Now and in utero?
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Re: Tyreek investigation

Postby jcc6fd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:47 pm

Bot101 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:42 pm
Ice wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:15 pm
ninotoreS wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:02 pm


Ah. Okay. I confess ignorance.
Yep a 1000 ways. One of my sons fell off the bed at 3 and broke his arm.

Haven't read anything but really not uncommon for a hospital to file a report.
A year ago my at the time 2 year old daughter fell 2 feet off a toy rack onto carpet and broke the growth plate in her elbow in 2 different places. It was the freak of all freak injuries. So all anyone can hope is this was a horrible accident either rough housing or somethine of the like and Hill didnt beat his kid. If he did in fact intentionally cause harm to his child, he should be banned indefinitely.

We should definitely NOT say hes guilty without the facts simply because of what he did to his gf years ago.
Agree, but I think we also have to acknowledge, from a fantasy football standpoint, the severity of the risk here. Two separate police reports in this short of a time frame don’t get filed for obvious accidents
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