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Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:19 pm

I've seen the 'Where Does Tevin Coleman Go?' thread which is has understandably turned into a discussion of which RBs will still be on the roster by the start of the season & how things will shake out

But with the key date being June 1st - we're likely a long way away of finding out what happens in SF

My question is much more simple:

As of TODAY, what are you doing with these RBs?
Buy/Sell/Hold? & what is their new price (assuming it has changed)?

- Coleman
- McKinnon
- Breida
- Mustard
- Wilson? (probably worthless but I felt the need to include him)

I own Coleman in all 5 leagues. I never truly thought he would land a bellcow role, but I didn't envision a such a huge (potential) split

Now I'm considering selling but have no idea what his (or the others') price should be?
My first offer was the 11th rookie pick (2.01 of a 10tm PPR league in which Tevin is my RB4)
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:34 pm

I would absolutely take the 11th rookie over Tevin Coleman.

Your only other option would be to wait until mid-season, hope for injuries to the other guys, and then sell Coleman. But even then, you might get, what - a top 8 rookie pick?

I would sell now for the 11th pick, if you can.
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HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
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BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
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KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby thebeast » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:06 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:34 pm I would absolutely take the 11th rookie over Tevin Coleman.

Your only other option would be to wait until mid-season, hope for injuries to the other guys, and then sell Coleman. But even then, you might get, what - a top 8 rookie pick?

I would sell now for the 11th pick, if you can.
I agree with this. I would be hoping to sell everyone in that backfield, but I wouldn't be trying to force the issue. I'd probably want about the 10th - 12th rookie pick for any of them.

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby Phaded » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:15 pm

The problem is that this is all subjective to what you could get.

I would sell any of them for any first - maybe an early 2nd.

If I had McKinnon I would hold, I think he was the better pass catching back but who knows if his athleticism was compromised.

I would buy either of them for a late 2nd.

Breida - meh. JAG.

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:39 pm

I'm selling McKinnon for about any first I can get, knowing my luck right after he is off my roster he will be traded to the Bucs of bears...
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QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:02 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:39 pm I'm selling McKinnon for about any first I can get, knowing my luck right after he is off my roster he will be traded to the Bucs of bears...
Yeah, I traded him in 2 leagues a few weeks ago

One was Mckinnon+Enunwa+1.08 for Christian Kirk + 1.05
The other was McKinnon+Landry+future 1st for Keenan Allen

Feels good at the moment (especially since Landry's target share might also be going down) but you're right, I'm sure he'll end up in a good spot and make me regret it
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby Life of Pablo » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:54 pm

Phaded wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:15 pm Breida - meh. JAG.
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10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)

QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby Cameron Giles » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:15 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:34 pm I would absolutely take the 11th rookie over Tevin Coleman.

Your only other option would be to wait until mid-season, hope for injuries to the other guys, and then sell Coleman. But even then, you might get, what - a top 8 rookie pick?

I would sell now for the 11th pick, if you can.
I'd easily take Coleman over the 1.11 in a draft with no depth and limited talent. You're at least getting an RB2 with some RB1 upside against the right matchups. This backfield is a mess, but one thing is clear right now: Tevin Coleman is going to play a lot. They just signed him and he knows the offense.

It's really just a matter of who's gone (or sits) between McKinnon and Breida.

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby jetsfan5757 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:21 pm

McKinnon is the guy I am least interested in. Feel like his production never really matched his athletic profile.

Best holds for me are Coleman and Breida.

Also, I think McKinnon's 2019 salary becomes guaranteed April 1st or late March. That is a date to watch for. He will cost about 250k (I think) MORE against the cap if they cut him, but they will save 3.7 million in cash. So I think it's a possibility
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)

QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble

K (1): M. Crosby

DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby jetsfan5757 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:22 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:15 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:34 pm I would absolutely take the 11th rookie over Tevin Coleman.

Your only other option would be to wait until mid-season, hope for injuries to the other guys, and then sell Coleman. But even then, you might get, what - a top 8 rookie pick?

I would sell now for the 11th pick, if you can.
I'd easily take Coleman over the 1.11 in a draft with no depth and limited talent. You're at least getting an RB2 with some RB1 upside against the right matchups. This backfield is a mess, but one thing is clear right now: Tevin Coleman is going to play a lot. They just signed him and he knows the offense.

It's really just a matter of who's gone (or sits) between McKinnon and Breida.
I agree I am holding Coleman at that price
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)

QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble

K (1): M. Crosby

DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby thebeast » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:28 pm

jetsfan5757 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:22 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:15 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:34 pm I would absolutely take the 11th rookie over Tevin Coleman.

Your only other option would be to wait until mid-season, hope for injuries to the other guys, and then sell Coleman. But even then, you might get, what - a top 8 rookie pick?

I would sell now for the 11th pick, if you can.
I'd easily take Coleman over the 1.11 in a draft with no depth and limited talent. You're at least getting an RB2 with some RB1 upside against the right matchups. This backfield is a mess, but one thing is clear right now: Tevin Coleman is going to play a lot. They just signed him and he knows the offense.

It's really just a matter of who's gone (or sits) between McKinnon and Breida.
I agree I am holding Coleman at that price
I think you guys are only holding because you paid more and are expecting more and hopeful.

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:09 pm

thebeast wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:28 pm
jetsfan5757 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:22 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:15 pm

I'd easily take Coleman over the 1.11 in a draft with no depth and limited talent. You're at least getting an RB2 with some RB1 upside against the right matchups. This backfield is a mess, but one thing is clear right now: Tevin Coleman is going to play a lot. They just signed him and he knows the offense.

It's really just a matter of who's gone (or sits) between McKinnon and Breida.
I agree I am holding Coleman at that price
I think you guys are only holding because you paid more and are expecting more and hopeful.
Coleman had his best years in Shanny's offense, it makes sense to hold him at that price.
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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:40 pm

If it were me,

Coleman: hold, sell for a 1, or buy for a 2.
Breida: hold, or sell for a 1.
McKinnon: hold, or sell for a 2.

If it does become a three-man rotation, that stinks, but one of them could still be a high-end fantasy RB2. If it ends up mostly a two-man rotation with one clear lead, a Shanahan backfield can very plausibly make the lead a low-end RB1 / high-end RB2, and the other guy a low-end RB2 / high-end RB3.

Shanahan's running-backs have a tendency to perform some of the best football of their careers. While this depth-chart probably nixes the possibility of a bellcow or feature-back, there's still probably gonna be desirable production here for fantasy.
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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby koalabear » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:32 am

In a vacuum would you sell Tevin for one of the following:

Robby Anderson, or
James Washington, or
A Rob?
1. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE. Yr 7
QB: Murray, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Sanders, Pearce
WR: Jefferson, Burks, JuJu
TE: Goedert, Everett
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

2. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE. Yr 6.
QB: Jackson, Allen
RB: Akers, CEH
WR: Chase, M Brown, Pittman, M Williams
TE: Tonyan, Hooper
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

3. 12 team superflex, PPR (WR/RB/TE 1/1.25/1.5). Start 1-2 QB, 1-7 RB, WR, TE. Yr 5.
QB: Jackson, Prescott, Brady
RB: Singletary, Harris
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Burks, Evans, Lockett
TE: Hockenson
2023: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Buy/Sell/Hold - 49ers backfield

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:56 am

thebeast wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:28 pm
jetsfan5757 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:22 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:15 pm

I'd easily take Coleman over the 1.11 in a draft with no depth and limited talent. You're at least getting an RB2 with some RB1 upside against the right matchups. This backfield is a mess, but one thing is clear right now: Tevin Coleman is going to play a lot. They just signed him and he knows the offense.

It's really just a matter of who's gone (or sits) between McKinnon and Breida.
I agree I am holding Coleman at that price
I think you guys are only holding because you paid more and are expecting more and hopeful.
I don't own Coleman in any leagues. Most late firsts in that range are not going to be immediate starters unless it's a really deep class. 1.11 is a cheap price to pay for an RB that's definitely going to start and get RB2 volume at the least next season.


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