James Washington Value

[TampaBay216]

Is it that out of the question that perhaps we see 2 guys split reps in PA? Yeah, we’ve seen Pitt support 2 WR1’s, last year, but I don’t think that’s a trend. Look at who the 2 were, AB and JuJu. Studs. I think that was more of an outlier vs a trend we can expect to see year in and year out.
Though I do agree, I would love to have the Steelers clear cut #2. Right now, that’s Moncrief.
Like you mentioned, these shiny new 2020 receivers are coming in next year. What happens if the Steelers nab one that falls into the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft? They’ve been taking earlier round receivers lately. It’s not out of the realm of possibilities they take another.
We just don’t know is my point. So I made the trade based off of what we do know.
Moncrief is the 2.
Washington having another promising preseason.
They drafted another rookie WR in 2019 who’s also shown promise (Johnson).
Kirk will see an increase in targets barring injury.
Arizona’s offense will be more uptempo vs last year.
Arizona has FOUR young WR (3 rookies).

There are a lot of things we can assume, but for now I’m sticking to the big facts.

Another fact you can add is that the Arizona offensive line that was such a huge problem last year, was eaten up by the Oakland Raiders, who were by far the worst pass rushing team in the league last year, in their second preseason game.

I’d be concerned that the only thing an uptempo offense is going to do is get Murray sacked even more.

Agreed. They’re O-line is trash

[FuzzySignificance]

interesting thread re: steelers preseason film review:

https://twitter.com/dwainmcfarland/stat ... 02528?s=20

relevant observation:
"Washington struggled v press and they try to protect him lining off of LOS, slot, etc by playing Z.
Problem is that is JJSS's role.
D Johnson beat press cleanly often. Nice back shoulder catch plus RAC for TD nullified. Caught another TD later."

[Johnny Canuck]

I find it hard to see a breakout unless one of Moncrief or Diontae get injured.

If we read the tea leaves, Washington is the only potential offensive weapon taking lots of snaps during the preseason...while that's great to fuel the preseason hype train, playing in preseason usually means the inverse for his actual play time come the reg season.

If I had to put percentiles on the potential of netting that starting WR role opposite JJSS, it'd be: 40% Moncrief, 35% Diontae Johnson, 25% James Washington.

He still has a chance, but he's got a bigger hill to climb it seems. We shall see who rises to the occasion.

[ericanadian]

I find it hard to see a breakout unless one of Moncrief or Diontae get injured.

If we read the tea leaves, Washington is the only potential offensive weapon taking lots of snaps during the preseason...while that's great to fuel the preseason hype train, playing in preseason usually means the inverse for his actual play time come the reg season.

If I had to put percentiles on the potential of netting that starting WR role opposite JJSS, it'd be: 40% Moncrief, 35% Diontae Johnson, 25% James Washington.

He still has a chance, but he's got a bigger hill to climb it seems. We shall see who rises to the occasion.

I agree with what you’re saying, but Johnson led the team in snap count against the Chiefs at 45. Washington was behind him at 34. More telling to me is that the JJSS & Moncrief got the official start. Switzer was the first WR subbed in (which tracks with him as the slot guy) and Washington was the second.

[remedy29]

I feel Moncrief is easily the number 2 to start the season. James Washington will get his chance to show his worth, but there is no way you can count on him early in 2019.
If he plays well this season, he may very well be in position to command a large percentage of playing time in 2020.

[Ice]

I find it hard to see a breakout unless one of Moncrief or Diontae get injured.

If we read the tea leaves, Washington is the only potential offensive weapon taking lots of snaps during the preseason...while that's great to fuel the preseason hype train, playing in preseason usually means the inverse for his actual play time come the reg season.

If I had to put percentiles on the potential of netting that starting WR role opposite JJSS, it'd be: 40% Moncrief, 35% Diontae Johnson, 25% James Washington.

He still has a chance, but he's got a bigger hill to climb it seems. We shall see who rises to the occasion.

Washington knows the system, entering year 2 as a 2nd rounder. Moncrief has skill but as a 3rd rounder hasn’t ever put up stud numbers.

My tea leaves tell me it’s Washington is the breakout candidate and Moncrief is the insurance policy.

I am a fan of Diontae but he is most likely a year away.

Washington has had a fantastic camp by any measure. He was great in college, that got way better every year, won the award as the best college WR his last year and now knows the offense.

Don’t sleep on this player.

[Jigga94]

I find it funny that we as fantasy owners like to throw the vets aside as if they're not a part of the real life NFL team / depth chart. At least to start out as a rookie or sophomore player they have to earn that spot.

Switzer and Moncrief being above Diontae should be obvious but some people think Johnson is 2nd/3rd WR? C'mon

Same goes for Campbell and Cain in Indy... Noticed a lot of hype there too (rightfully so), but Funchess will be the 2 behind TY.

Everyone pegs Marqise Brown as the 1 in Baltimore, while he may have the most talent, no way he's starting over Snead or possibly even Boykin for that matter

Just thought it was weird to see all these projections for some rookie flyers

[Johnny Canuck]

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit, but would you pay a 2020 2nd for JWash at this point? I have already have Moncrief, and was thinking about doing the CBS Adam Aizer friendship strategy, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger.

I feel like Moncrief will be the #2 this yr barring injury, and maybe next yr JWash can assert himself into that role, but Big Ben could fall apart at any moment. Not only that, but Diontae Johnson has looked solid in the work he's got.

Anddddd I think the prospects available in the 2nd of 2020 will be solid.

What say you, dynasty community?

[maxhyde]

I find it hard to see a breakout unless one of Moncrief or Diontae get injured.

If we read the tea leaves, Washington is the only potential offensive weapon taking lots of snaps during the preseason...while that's great to fuel the preseason hype train, playing in preseason usually means the inverse for his actual play time come the reg season.

If I had to put percentiles on the potential of netting that starting WR role opposite JJSS, it'd be: 40% Moncrief, 35% Diontae Johnson, 25% James Washington.

He still has a chance, but he's got a bigger hill to climb it seems. We shall see who rises to the occasion.

Washington knows the system, entering year 2 as a 2nd rounder. Moncrief has skill but as a 3rd rounder hasn’t ever put up stud numbers.

My tea leaves tell me it’s Washington is the breakout candidate and Moncrief is the insurance policy.

I am a fan of Diontae but he is most likely a year away.

Washington has had a fantastic camp by any measure. He was great in college, that got way better every year, won the award as the best college WR his last year and now knows the offense.

Don’t sleep on this player.

Exactly ^

[ArrylT]

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit, but would you pay a 2020 2nd for JWash at this point? I have already have Moncrief, and was thinking about doing the CBS Adam Aizer friendship strategy, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger.

I feel like Moncrief will be the #2 this yr barring injury, and maybe next yr JWash can assert himself into that role, but Big Ben could fall apart at any moment. Not only that, but Diontae Johnson has looked solid in the work he's got.

Anddddd I think the prospects available in the 2nd of 2020 will be solid.

What say you, dynasty community?

What is the Adam Aizer friendship strategy?

[Johnny Canuck]

What is the Adam Aizer friendship strategy?

It's a little more catered to redraft, but could be put into practice in dynasty. It is essentially putting together two WRs with the hopes that one will hit. One can be drafted high, one drafted low; or both drafted low. It's usually two WRs that are on high scoring offenses, and they are usually the WR2 & WR3 on their respective teams - but the depth chart is semi undefined (so they are undervalued).

Off the top of my Head Teammates That fit the Strategy for Example:
Fuller - Keke
Moncrief - JWash
MVS - Allison
Pettis - Samuel

[ArrylT]

What is the Adam Aizer friendship strategy?

It's a little more catered to redraft, but could be put into practice in dynasty. It is essentially putting together two WRs with the hopes that one will hit. One can be drafted high, one drafted low; or both drafted low. It's usually two WRs that are on high scoring offenses, and they are usually the WR2 & WR3 on their respective teams - but the depth chart is semi undefined (so they are undervalued).

Off the top of my Head Teammates That fit the Strategy for Example:
Fuller - Keke
Moncrief - JWash
MVS - Allison
Pettis - Samuel

Ah ok kewl! I already try when possible to stack players like WRs from a good offence together - but thats good to know and I think any of those stacks could be productive.

[Pew Dogs]

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit, but would you pay a 2020 2nd for JWash at this point? I have already have Moncrief, and was thinking about doing the CBS Adam Aizer friendship strategy, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger.

I feel like Moncrief will be the #2 this yr barring injury, and maybe next yr JWash can assert himself into that role, but Big Ben could fall apart at any moment. Not only that, but Diontae Johnson has looked solid in the work he's got.

Anddddd I think the prospects available in the 2nd of 2020 will be solid.

What say you, dynasty community?

In a heartbeat. (I just trade Josh Gordon for him and DJ Chark.)

BTW didn’t JuJu start out the 3rd receiver ... and that turned out pretty well. Some players start more slowly. My point is that Washington will be given every opportunity to take control of the other side from JuJu.

[Pew Dogs]

What is the Adam Aizer friendship strategy?

It's a little more catered to redraft, but could be put into practice in dynasty. It is essentially putting together two WRs with the hopes that one will hit. One can be drafted high, one drafted low; or both drafted low. It's usually two WRs that are on high scoring offenses, and they are usually the WR2 & WR3 on their respective teams - but the depth chart is semi undefined (so they are undervalued).

Off the top of my Head Teammates That fit the Strategy for Example:
Fuller - Keke
Moncrief - JWash
MVS - Allison
Pettis - Samuel

Ah ok kewl! I already try when possible to stack players like WRs from a good offence together - but thats good to know and I think any of those stacks could be productive.

Exactly right. It’s not just stacking WRs. It’s stacking the #2 and #3 WRs in a really good offense rather cheaply where whoever wins that battle jumps into fantasy starting lineups as someone who can put a season over the top. It is even more attractive in dynasty where the #1 is older or in a contract year comes to mind. Last year’s John Ross/Tyler Boyd scenario comes to mind.

I might add Funchess/Campbell.

[TampaBay216]

Another week, another Preseason TD for Washington. Fun to watch the connection between him and Rudolph.