DK Metcalf is your 1.01 now.

[Bronco Billy]

It’s astounding to me on a board with such a high level of acumen that Michael Thomas is going to be 28 this coming season, somehow got incrementally better every year he’s played, despite his phenomenal level of performance, to the point where he shattered the single season reception mark until he got hurt last year, and because he got injured last year is somehow a forgotten man when discussing top 5 WRs in the NFl.

[bjd5211]

It’s astounding to me on a board with such a high level of acumen that Michael Thomas is going to be 28 this coming season, somehow got incrementally better every year he’s played, despite his phenomenal level of performance, to the point where he shattered the single season reception mark until he got hurt last year, and because he got injured last year is somehow a forgotten man when discussing top 5 WRs in the NFl.

All WRs value begins to dip at 28 no matter how good they are or well they are playing, add to that he's likely losing the QB who force fed him the ball perfectly and all the drama that kept coming out of NO involving him and it's pretty understandable why he's dropping. I only have 1 share and hopefully I'm able to move him for good value, but I have a feeling it will be tricky to do so.

[CGW]

It’s astounding to me on a board with such a high level of acumen that Michael Thomas is going to be 28 this coming season, somehow got incrementally better every year he’s played, despite his phenomenal level of performance, to the point where he shattered the single season reception mark until he got hurt last year, and because he got injured last year is somehow a forgotten man when discussing top 5 WRs in the NFl.

And lost his hall of fame QB. Its hard for me to have him above guys 5-7 years younger who are putting up crazy numbers already. Thomas will return to being solid, but I understand why he is being faded due to the prospects of having a Fullback/TE throwing him the ball.

[Bronco Billy]

It’s astounding to me on a board with such a high level of acumen that Michael Thomas is going to be 28 this coming season, somehow got incrementally better every year he’s played, despite his phenomenal level of performance, to the point where he shattered the single season reception mark until he got hurt last year, and because he got injured last year is somehow a forgotten man when discussing top 5 WRs in the NFl.

All WRs value begins to dip at 28 no matter how good they are or well they are playing, add to that he's likely losing the QB who force fed him the ball perfectly and all the drama that kept coming out of NO involving him and it's pretty understandable why he's dropping. I only have 1 share and hopefully I'm able to move him for good value, but I have a feeling it will be tricky to do so.

Brees fed him the ball because he was almost literally uncoverable when he ran out of the slot and was dominant on the outside as well. You think he’s not going to be the focus of Payton’s passing offense or a NO QB’s favorite trusted target just because that QB isn’t Brees? And making blanket statements about one player’s production based upon some notion of an age threshold has proven to be a poor argument across multiple positions.

ETA - over 1/3rd of the top single seasons in receiving yards in NFL history were turned in by WRs ages 28 years or older. That holds true for top 50.

[Bronco Billy]

Thomas will return to being solid, but I understand why he is being faded due to the prospects of having a Fullback/TE throwing him the ball.

So we’re betting that Payton is suddenly going to get incredibly stupid? I’ll take the action to the opposite.

[bjd5211]

It’s astounding to me on a board with such a high level of acumen that Michael Thomas is going to be 28 this coming season, somehow got incrementally better every year he’s played, despite his phenomenal level of performance, to the point where he shattered the single season reception mark until he got hurt last year, and because he got injured last year is somehow a forgotten man when discussing top 5 WRs in the NFl.

All WRs value begins to dip at 28 no matter how good they are or well they are playing, add to that he's likely losing the QB who force fed him the ball perfectly and all the drama that kept coming out of NO involving him and it's pretty understandable why he's dropping. I only have 1 share and hopefully I'm able to move him for good value, but I have a feeling it will be tricky to do so.

Brees fed him the ball because he was almost literally uncoverable when he ran out of the slot and was dominant on the outside as well. You think he’s not going to be the focus of Payton’s passing offense or a NO QB’s favorite trusted target just because that QB isn’t Brees? And making blanket statements about one player’s production based upon some notion of an age threshold has proven to be a poor argument across multiple positions.

I didn't say anything about his production threshold, I was talking about his value, those aren't always the same thing.

[CGW]

Thomas will return to being solid, but I understand why he is being faded due to the prospects of having a Fullback/TE throwing him the ball.

So we’re betting that Payton is suddenly going to get incredibly stupid? I’ll take the action to the opposite.

Ok, so we will ignore the Taysom Hill experience in 2020. Next up is Winston. Is he not a downgrade to Drew Brees, the hall of fame QB, check down specialist?

[Bronco Billy]

All WRs value begins to dip at 28 no matter how good they are or well they are playing, add to that he's likely losing the QB who force fed him the ball perfectly and all the drama that kept coming out of NO involving him and it's pretty understandable why he's dropping. I only have 1 share and hopefully I'm able to move him for good value, but I have a feeling it will be tricky to do so.

Brees fed him the ball because he was almost literally uncoverable when he ran out of the slot and was dominant on the outside as well. You think he’s not going to be the focus of Payton’s passing offense or a NO QB’s favorite trusted target just because that QB isn’t Brees? And making blanket statements about one player’s production based upon some notion of an age threshold has proven to be a poor argument across multiple positions.

I didn't say anything about his production threshold, I was talking about his value, those aren't always the same thing.

And my post was intended to perhaps make some rethink that position. I could be wrong, but I’m guessing if you let MT drop out of the top 5/6 dynasty WRs in the league that people might be surrendering value. Let me know when Dk comes anywhere close to MT’s consistency as a high production WR.

[mild]

Let me know when Dk comes anywhere close to MT’s consistency as a high production WR.

Uhh, should we tell him...?

That would be the year just been.

83 receptions for 1300 yards and 10 td's is actually a LOT more efficient than MT best season. I would argue that that makes DK a high production WR. To expect him to regress coming into his 3rd season with what we've seen would also be a mistake. If DK can refine his game and get to the 100 (or above) reception mark, the sky might be the limit. That's why he is a 1.01 startup pick right now.

149 receptions for 1700 yards and 9 td's is Thomas' best season. If you think that sort of target share is sustainable, then godspeed, go buy more shares. If you think Payton "won't get dumb" and that the whole Saints team will look the same as that 2019 season, then yeah, go buy more shares. But maybe before you do: take a look at the Saints cap sheet, and then ask yourself if you're really ready to buy back into the Jameis and Taysom show, whilst expecting -literally the peak- of the Brees-to-Thomas connection.

[Cameron Giles]

It’s astounding to me on a board with such a high level of acumen that Michael Thomas is going to be 28 this coming season, somehow got incrementally better every year he’s played, despite his phenomenal level of performance, to the point where he shattered the single season reception mark until he got hurt last year, and because he got injured last year is somehow a forgotten man when discussing top 5 WRs in the NFl.

Take advantage. "old" WRs usually are the best value to building contenders from season to season

[Bronco Billy]

Let me know when Dk comes anywhere close to MT’s consistency as a high production WR.

Uhh, should we tell him...?

That would be the year just been.

83 receptions for 1300 yards and 10 td's is actually a LOT more efficient than MT best season. I would argue that that makes DK a high production WR. To expect him to regress coming into his 3rd season with what we've seen would also be a mistake. If DK can refine his game and get to the 100 (or above) reception mark, the sky might be the limit. That's why he is a 1.01 startup pick right now.

149 receptions for 1700 yards and 9 td's is Thomas' best season. If you think that sort of target share is sustainable, then godspeed, go buy more shares. If you think Payton "won't get dumb" and that the whole Saints team will look the same as that 2019 season, then yeah, go buy more shares. But maybe before you do: take a look at the Saints cap sheet, and then ask yourself if you're really ready to buy back into the Jameis and Taysom show, whilst expecting -literally the peak- of the Brees-to-Thomas connection.

[Bronco Billy]

Let me know when Dk comes anywhere close to MT’s consistency as a high production WR.

Uhh, should we tell him...?

That would be the year just been.

83 receptions for 1300 yards and 10 td's is actually a LOT more efficient than MT best season. I would argue that that makes DK a high production WR. To expect him to regress coming into his 3rd season with what we've seen would also be a mistake. If DK can refine his game and get to the 100 (or above) reception mark, the sky might be the limit. That's why he is a 1.01 startup pick right now.

149 receptions for 1700 yards and 9 td's is Thomas' best season. If you think that sort of target share is sustainable, then godspeed, go buy more shares. If you think Payton "won't get dumb" and that the whole Saints team will look the same as that 2019 season, then yeah, go buy more shares. But maybe before you do: take a look at the Saints cap sheet, and then ask yourself if you're really ready to buy back into the Jameis and Taysom show, whilst expecting -literally the peak- of the Brees-to-Thomas connection.

Uh, 102 receptions for 1378 yds and 8 TDs is MT’s average season prior to his injured year last year. Get as snarky as you want, but if I’m not mistaken that average is worth more in ppr FF than DK’s year last year that you and others are banking on his bettering. MT is already what DK’s owners are hoping are his upside.

[Shoreline Steamers]

ETA - over 1/3rd of the top single seasons in receiving yards in NFL history were turned in by WRs ages 28 years or older. That holds true for top 50.

Not trying to poke the bear too much here. But you do realize that means that 2/3rd's of those top single season receiving yard marks were posted by WR younger than 28.

Not saying that it's time to dump Thomas. But those that cash out for solid value aren't automatically doing it wrong. Your own numbers seem to back that up.

[Ice]

Thomas has been an elite player in the past so if one thinks he will bounce back then go get him. The reality is he played terrible last season and not all of it is on the QB. Of the 7 games he did play 3 were in single digits and none were over 19.5 points with zero TD's in the regular season. He ranked 39th in PPG average less than 1 point better than Sanders when on the field.

While he did have some injuries, he was also controversial in the club house. Sounds like he may be having deltoid and ankle ligament surgery of some type this off season.

Easy to see why his value is dropping like a rock. He could come back but he certainly isn't a top 12 WR lock going forward and a lot of fantasy players want no part of a soon to be 28 year old WR coming off a bad year on the field and in the locker room on a team with major QB concerns.

[Ray Finkle]

MT can put top a couple more top 5 WR seasons while not being valued as a top 5 WR and there is nothing wrong with that. Don’t confuse production with value even though they are typically close to each other in a list.

DK is easily a top 5 value now and I might have him as #1 even though I tend to like AJB a tad more. I offered Evans+ARob for DK mid season and got shot down. It was hard for me to hit the send button on that offer but I totally understand the dude gripping DK.