He is now.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:49 pmHe's in the database in my leagues.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:54 am He's not in the MFL database. I'm getting blasted left and right in FCFS leagues with owners trying to add lol. Headache.
Witten ends retirement
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"If on 4th down, the quarterback doesn't complete his pass, they will turn over the ball."
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Lol Blake Jarwin was sacrificed to save MNF.
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To me these kind of comments (and I'm not bashing you personally at all as this is a common occurrence in these forums) are frustrating to me because they originate from the assumption that all leagues are created equally. I personally play in leagues of all sorts of formats with all sorts of starting requirements, roster depth, and team dept. Suppose the leagues I am referring to are TE premium 16 teamers with 50 man rosters and require you to start 2 TE? That might change your tune on him being a worthless addition. An extreme example perhaps, but certainly not outside of the realm of reality and helps support my point. Is Witten going to help in a 10 team start 1 TE league? Possibly not. But in the former example, he would be a welcome addition to most teams.Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:33 pmGotta love the overreaction here. Guy is a HOFer but an old washed up HOFer who will add nothing to any fantasy team.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:54 am He's not in the MFL database. I'm getting blasted left and right in FCFS leagues with owners trying to add lol. Headache.
Dynasty players from ALL sorts of formats and all sorts of skill and experience levels come here for guidance and opinion, and in mine, these comments weaken the value of this community to them.
Sorry for getting all heavy lol. Rant over
"If on 4th down, the quarterback doesn't complete his pass, they will turn over the ball."
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Re: Witten ends retirement
Apparently he’s only going to get 25 snaps per game - that’s not enough for me.
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Re: Witten ends retirement
Glad I sold my lone Jarwin share last weekend.
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Re: Witten ends retirement
Again, you're overvaluing the TE position. 560 yards and 5 td's is a top 10 season in fantasy..very valuable, considering there are only approximately only 3-4 tight ends every season that are weekly starters at best. The rest are streamable and you're basically hoping for a few yards and/or a touchdown. He may be washed up now, but your passive dismissal without any context is what annoys me about posts on these boards. Considering we have no evidence he's washed up since he never finished outside the top 12 at his position.Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:46 pmThat was two years ago, he had 560 yards and 5 Tds, if I remember correctly he was the only guy to really throw to in dallas in 2017, Dez was done that season. He will now be possibly the 3rd guy behind Cooper and Gallup after missing a full season at an older age. Guy had a great career but as far as fantasy relevance for 2019 I don't see any.Jason3123 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:40 pmYou also said he will add nothing to fantasy teams. The TE position is a thin, wildly unproductive position. Witten will easily add value and contribute. His 2017 was a top 10 TE season, so I wouldn't claim he is washed up considering he's never not had a top 12 TE season except for his rookie season.
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What if I had said "Ya add him quick and all these people are giving you a headache because he is going to put up 1500 yards". I was just trying to say I feel your pain. That's all. Guess it backfired.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:58 pmTo me these kind of comments (and I'm not bashing you personally at all as this is a common occurrence in these forums) are frustrating to me because they originate from the assumption that all leagues are created equally. I personally play in leagues of all sorts of formats with all sorts of starting requirements, roster depth, and team dept. Suppose the leagues I am referring to are TE premium 16 teamers with 50 man rosters and require you to start 2 TE? That might change your tune on him being a worthless addition. An extreme example perhaps, but certainly not outside of the realm of reality and helps support my point. Is Witten going to help in a 10 team start 1 TE league? Possibly not. But in the former example, he would be a welcome addition to most teams.Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:33 pmGotta love the overreaction here. Guy is a HOFer but an old washed up HOFer who will add nothing to any fantasy team.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:54 am He's not in the MFL database. I'm getting blasted left and right in FCFS leagues with owners trying to add lol. Headache.
Dynasty players from ALL sorts of formats and all sorts of skill and experience levels come here for guidance and opinion, and in mine, these comments weaken the value of this community to them.
Sorry for getting all heavy lol. Rant over
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Re: Witten ends retirement
Would you have had the same sort of issue if I had come in here and said "he will be a top 3 Te, no issue, Buy him"Jason3123 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:49 pmAgain, you're overvaluing the TE position. 560 yards and 5 td's is a top 10 season in fantasy..very valuable, considering there are only approximately only 3-4 tight ends every season that are weekly starters at best. The rest are streamable and you're basically hoping for a few yards and/or a touchdown. He may be washed up now, but your passive dismissal without any context is what annoys me about posts on these boards. Considering we have no evidence he's washed up since he never finished outside the top 12 at his position.Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:46 pmThat was two years ago, he had 560 yards and 5 Tds, if I remember correctly he was the only guy to really throw to in dallas in 2017, Dez was done that season. He will now be possibly the 3rd guy behind Cooper and Gallup after missing a full season at an older age. Guy had a great career but as far as fantasy relevance for 2019 I don't see any.Jason3123 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:40 pm
You also said he will add nothing to fantasy teams. The TE position is a thin, wildly unproductive position. Witten will easily add value and contribute. His 2017 was a top 10 TE season, so I wouldn't claim he is washed up considering he's never not had a top 12 TE season except for his rookie season.
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No way bro! I meant no offense. I felt like I addressed that. Didn't backfire at all. I appreciate that you felt my pain, just didn't necessarily agree that he was worthless. Plus hangry. Past my lunchtime. I might need a snickers!Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:53 pmWhat if I had said "Ya add him quick and all these people are giving you a headache because he is going to put up 1500 yards". I was just trying to say I feel your pain. That's all. Guess it backfired.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:58 pmTo me these kind of comments (and I'm not bashing you personally at all as this is a common occurrence in these forums) are frustrating to me because they originate from the assumption that all leagues are created equally. I personally play in leagues of all sorts of formats with all sorts of starting requirements, roster depth, and team dept. Suppose the leagues I am referring to are TE premium 16 teamers with 50 man rosters and require you to start 2 TE? That might change your tune on him being a worthless addition. An extreme example perhaps, but certainly not outside of the realm of reality and helps support my point. Is Witten going to help in a 10 team start 1 TE league? Possibly not. But in the former example, he would be a welcome addition to most teams.Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:33 pm
Gotta love the overreaction here. Guy is a HOFer but an old washed up HOFer who will add nothing to any fantasy team.
Dynasty players from ALL sorts of formats and all sorts of skill and experience levels come here for guidance and opinion, and in mine, these comments weaken the value of this community to them.
Sorry for getting all heavy lol. Rant over
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Re: Witten ends retirement
I saw the email that someone added him in my MFL league
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Re: Witten ends retirement
GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:10 pmNo way bro! I meant no offense. I felt like I addressed that. Didn't backfire at all. I appreciate that you felt my pain, just didn't necessarily agree that he was worthless. Plus hangry. Past my lunchtime. I might need a snickers!Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:53 pmWhat if I had said "Ya add him quick and all these people are giving you a headache because he is going to put up 1500 yards". I was just trying to say I feel your pain. That's all. Guess it backfired.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:58 pm
To me these kind of comments (and I'm not bashing you personally at all as this is a common occurrence in these forums) are frustrating to me because they originate from the assumption that all leagues are created equally. I personally play in leagues of all sorts of formats with all sorts of starting requirements, roster depth, and team dept. Suppose the leagues I am referring to are TE premium 16 teamers with 50 man rosters and require you to start 2 TE? That might change your tune on him being a worthless addition. An extreme example perhaps, but certainly not outside of the realm of reality and helps support my point. Is Witten going to help in a 10 team start 1 TE league? Possibly not. But in the former example, he would be a welcome addition to most teams.
Dynasty players from ALL sorts of formats and all sorts of skill and experience levels come here for guidance and opinion, and in mine, these comments weaken the value of this community to them.
Sorry for getting all heavy lol. Rant over
Re: Witten ends retirement
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Don't think I didn't notice you are no longer a part of the Leah Gotti fan club, M-Dub.
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Re: Witten ends retirement
With regard to dynasty context, just pour gasoline on all the TEs currently on Dallas' depth-chart, and throw a match. Not because Witten will come back and dominate snaps, but because Dallas' willingness to have him back at all seems to be scathing indictment of the younger players they have at the position -- no confidence in any of them. Smh in particular at Rico "I will be the best TE in the league" Gathers.
Anyway, dollars to donuts Dallas is taking a TE no later than Day 2 in this draft, and I think Day 1 is a strong possibility (seems like a nice class for TE). They'll have Witten mentor him for a year or two.
Doesn't seem like 25 snaps a week will be fantasy startable.Jason3123 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:40 pmYou also said he will add nothing to fantasy teams. The TE position is a thin, wildly unproductive position. Witten will easily add value and contribute. His 2017 was a top 10 TE season, so I wouldn't claim he is washed up considering he's never not had a top 12 TE season except for his rookie season.
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