Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

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Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:51 pm

I think people are underestimating Wilkins ability to beat out Foreman. He averaged 5.6 YPC on his 60 carries and caught 16 of his 17 targets last year, and by all accounts, is a better pass blocker than Foreman. I think the battle is Foreman making the team as the RB4, vas whoever else (Wiliams or other) is there, personally.
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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby ninotoreS » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:28 pm

My expectation is that if Foreman doesn't completely win the #2 job in Indy, he won't make the 53 at all. 2-down backs that don't contribute on special-teams are rarely found on the bottom of an NFL RB depth-chart. The RB3/4 on charts are nearly always either passing-game specialists or valued special-teamers.

It's possible Foreman suddenly embraces special-teams and becomes an effective gunner on the coverage unit (he has the size and athleticism for it), and if I hear reports indicating that, I'll amend my prediction.
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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby ArrylT » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:59 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/n ... story.html

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/ ... on-texans/

About what you'd expect him to say - but a good sign perhaps that his first action was not to rip his old team. A couple of interesting nuggets (for me at least) in that I was unaware Foreman was a homegrown Texan (state not team) and had never played/lived outside of Texas, or that he had lost a daughter. Perhaps the new environment will give him impetus to focus strictly on work.
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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby mild » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:31 pm

Aaaaaaand that'll probably about do it. What an absolute idiot.

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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby Phaded » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:08 pm

Apparently "grow up" was accurate.

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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby Jason3123 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:26 pm

Lol at people reacting to fights in football practice.

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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:39 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:26 pm Lol at people reacting to fights in football practice.
Under the circumstances, it's worth a reaction. The guy is hanging on to his NFL career by a thread, and this goes down. It's certainly not going to help his cause.
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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby ninotoreS » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:50 pm

Lenzy Pipkins isn't a Colt, though. Scuffles during the shared practices are pretty common. I'd be alarmed if Foreman was already getting into altercations with his new teammates, but this? This really might not matter to Indy's coaches.
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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:08 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:50 pm Lenzy Pipkins isn't a Colt, though. Scuffles during the shared practices are pretty common. I'd be alarmed if Foreman was already getting into alterations with his new teammates, but this? This really might not matter to Indy's coaches.
It also might. If he instigated it, for sure. It's not a good look for a guy who just got cut for maturity issues among other things. Let's put it this way, there is no way to spin this being positive. It's not a good thing this happened, for anyone who has him on a dynasty roster.
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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby pvillebiker » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:20 pm

mild wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:31 pm Aaaaaaand that'll probably about do it. What an absolute idiot.

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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:27 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:39 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:26 pm Lol at people reacting to fights in football practice.
Under the circumstances, it's worth a reaction. The guy is hanging on to his NFL career by a thread, and this goes down. It's certainly not going to help his cause.
Yeah, that doesn't do anything to quiet the concerns about immaturity.

This entire situation is interesting, because it really has nothing to do with his Achilles as everyone feared. It's simply because his work ethic sucks and he's immature.

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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby sugbear65 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:18 pm

Could it be that he’s just too stupid to last? Like seriously, maybe he’s really dumb and can’t learn or remember the playbook and terminology. Which could cause him to freelance and run his own play essentially. So while he may look good to us armchair analysts because he’s an athlete and can make things happen, he will never get meaningful snaps or get out of the doghouse because he draws the coaches ire. I always felt like this may have been the case in the fall of Bishop Sankey, and I also suspect Christine Michael is the highest profile example of it.

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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:31 pm

sugbear65 wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:18 pm Could it be that he’s just too stupid to last? Like seriously, maybe he’s really dumb and can’t learn or remember the playbook and terminology. Which could cause him to freelance and run his own play essentially. So while he may look good to us armchair analysts because he’s an athlete and can make things happen, he will never get meaningful snaps or get out of the doghouse because he draws the coaches ire. I always felt like this may have been the case in the fall of Bishop Sankey, and I also suspect Christine Michael is the highest profile example of it.
Could be. We still don't know what he looks like post injury, either. Chances are, not as good as pre injury.
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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:49 pm

Now that I see a trend I'm starting to wonder if being good at pass-pro is a window into a persons work ethic. We know you don't have to be amazing at pass pro and that it can be learned. But a few guys off the top of my head that were terrible at pass pro were Melvin Gordon, Foreman and Rashaad Penny. Foreman seems like he has some maturing to do at the very least, Penny had sort of a "welcome to the NFL" type of season last year, and Gordon was pretty bad his first year or two as well. It just so happens Gordon was given enough rope to finally learn how to be a pro and learn how to be an asset in the passing game and figure everything out. Foreman being injured and worse draft pedigree he wasn't afforded as much rope. Penny seems to be somewhere in the middle, by most accounts he's learning how to be a pro this season. I'm trying to remember who else was just pathetic at pass pro coming into the NFL and how their careers played out.

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Re: Buy Or Sell D'Onta Foreman?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:42 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:49 pm Now that I see a trend I'm starting to wonder if being good at pass-pro is a window into a persons work ethic. We know you don't have to be amazing at pass pro and that it can be learned. But a few guys off the top of my head that were terrible at pass pro were Melvin Gordon, Foreman and Rashaad Penny. Foreman seems like he has some maturing to do at the very least, Penny had sort of a "welcome to the NFL" type of season last year, and Gordon was pretty bad his first year or two as well. It just so happens Gordon was given enough rope to finally learn how to be a pro and learn how to be an asset in the passing game and figure everything out. Foreman being injured and worse draft pedigree he wasn't afforded as much rope. Penny seems to be somewhere in the middle, by most accounts he's learning how to be a pro this season. I'm trying to remember who else was just pathetic at pass pro coming into the NFL and how their careers played out.
Penny made a really nice blitz pickup vs Denver, and apparently he has been working hard at it. He hired a nutritionist to help him be at an ideal weight this year. Seems like he's getting his head in the right place.
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