My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
I don't see it with Ridley. At least his brother was a high profile recruit (Riley wasn't) and despite being old was successful as a freshman (Riley wasn't). Riley didn't do anything in college until he was 22 years old. Some older WR prospects will have success, but they at least break out at a younger age, like Calvin Ridley or Cooper Kupp.
Put another way- as a 22 year old junior catching passess from Jake Fromm without much competition for targets, Riley Ridley managed all of 559 yards in 14 games.
Put another way- as a 22 year old junior catching passess from Jake Fromm without much competition for targets, Riley Ridley managed all of 559 yards in 14 games.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
My guess is that NE drafts Hart because the Grinch needs one.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
2 guys have had sustained success with a breakout age over 21: Brandon Marshall and Micheal Thomas. Both had dominator ratings in college over 80%. If Ridley hits, he'll be the biggest outlier of the past decade+.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:16 pm I don't see it with Ridley. At least his brother was a high profile recruit (Riley wasn't) and despite being old was successful as a freshman (Riley wasn't). Riley didn't do anything in college until he was 22 years old. Some older WR prospects will have success, but they at least break out at a younger age, like Calvin Ridley or Cooper Kupp.
Put another way- as a 22 year old junior catching passess from Jake Fromm without much competition for targets, Riley Ridley managed all of 559 yards in 14 games.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Dwayne bowe was right at 21 as wellOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:12 pm2 guys have had sustained success with a breakout age over 21: Brandon Marshall and Micheal Thomas. Both had dominator ratings in college over 80%. If Ridley hits, he'll be the biggest outlier of the past decade+.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:16 pm I don't see it with Ridley. At least his brother was a high profile recruit (Riley wasn't) and despite being old was successful as a freshman (Riley wasn't). Riley didn't do anything in college until he was 22 years old. Some older WR prospects will have success, but they at least break out at a younger age, like Calvin Ridley or Cooper Kupp.
Put another way- as a 22 year old junior catching passess from Jake Fromm without much competition for targets, Riley Ridley managed all of 559 yards in 14 games.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
The stuff I was looking at focused more on active players, but you sir are absolutely correct. He was 21 on the nose.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:18 pmDwayne bowe was right at 21 as wellOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:12 pm2 guys have had sustained success with a breakout age over 21: Brandon Marshall and Micheal Thomas. Both had dominator ratings in college over 80%. If Ridley hits, he'll be the biggest outlier of the past decade+.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:16 pm I don't see it with Ridley. At least his brother was a high profile recruit (Riley wasn't) and despite being old was successful as a freshman (Riley wasn't). Riley didn't do anything in college until he was 22 years old. Some older WR prospects will have success, but they at least break out at a younger age, like Calvin Ridley or Cooper Kupp.
Put another way- as a 22 year old junior catching passess from Jake Fromm without much competition for targets, Riley Ridley managed all of 559 yards in 14 games.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Thomas also was a prospect seemingly designed in a lab to be undervalued by analytics. He played with multiple other NFL WRs, dampening his ability to secure a promising market share, he took a redshirt as a 20 year old sophomore, limiting his ability to have an early breakout age, and, most importantly, he got drafted by the Saints, which no pre-draft process will account for.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:41 pmI looked more on active players when I was digging into it, but you sir are absolutely correct. He was 21 on the nose.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:18 pmDwayne bowe was right at 21 as wellOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:12 pm
2 guys have had sustained success with a breakout age over 21: Brandon Marshall and Micheal Thomas. Both had dominator ratings in college over 80%. If Ridley hits, he'll be the biggest outlier of the past decade+.
I don't like Riley Ridley, but if Indianapolis trades up for him and then moves on from TY Hilton the next year, I'll reconsider.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
If Harry falls to me at 1.06, I will be elated.
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
If he falls to 1.06 odds are likely he either had a poor combine or landed in a perceived awful situation - but yeah neither of which should keep you from making that selection.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Just getting mine down for reference (mainly for me once the combine & draft have been and gone)
1. N'Keal Harry
2. Hakeem Butler
3. Kelvin Harmon
4. AJ Brown
5. DK Metcalf
6. JJ Arcega-Whiteside
7. Deebo Samuel
8. Preston Williams
9. Andy Isabella
10. Marquise Brown
1. N'Keal Harry
2. Hakeem Butler
3. Kelvin Harmon
4. AJ Brown
5. DK Metcalf
6. JJ Arcega-Whiteside
7. Deebo Samuel
8. Preston Williams
9. Andy Isabella
10. Marquise Brown
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'17 Champ, '18 Runner Up, '23 rebuild
QB Watson, A Richardson, O' Connel (TS)
RB Gibbs, Akers, Dillon Carter, Bigsby, Chase Brown, Mcintosh, Tucker, Hull (TS)
WR Metcalf, DJ Moore, Addison, Meyers, Van Jefferson, Collins, Claypool, Mingo (TS), Hyatt (TS), Wilson (TS)
TE Higbee, Freirmuth, Otton (TS)
K Joseph
DE/DT Hunter
LB Franklin Simmons
C/S James
1.01, 1.04
'17 Champ, '18 Runner Up, '23 rebuild
QB Watson, A Richardson, O' Connel (TS)
RB Gibbs, Akers, Dillon Carter, Bigsby, Chase Brown, Mcintosh, Tucker, Hull (TS)
WR Metcalf, DJ Moore, Addison, Meyers, Van Jefferson, Collins, Claypool, Mingo (TS), Hyatt (TS), Wilson (TS)
TE Higbee, Freirmuth, Otton (TS)
K Joseph
DE/DT Hunter
LB Franklin Simmons
C/S James
1.01, 1.04
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
I should also clarify that all of my leagues are either 2QB or SF, so should Haskins, Murray, Lock all go in the 1st round, they could also cause a guy like Harry to fall.
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Yes good point! In a SF, or other QB premium format that is a more likely target range depending on how the QBs play out.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
one of the few respectable lists i've seen.Pet_Smith wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:58 am Just getting mine down for reference (mainly for me once the combine & draft have been and gone)
1. N'Keal Harry
2. Hakeem Butler
3. Kelvin Harmon
4. AJ Brown
5. DK Metcalf
6. JJ Arcega-Whiteside
7. Deebo Samuel
8. Preston Williams
9. Andy Isabella
10. Marquise Brown
Superflex tight-end premium team:
Qb: Kyler Murray, Dak Presscott, Sam Darnold,
Rb: Derrick Henry, Latavius Murray, Darrell Henderson, Dexter Williams, Brian Hill
Wr: Chris Godwin, Stefon Diggs, Courtland Sutton, DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Tre'Quan Smith, Daesean Hamilton, Josh Reynolds, Trey Quin, Snead,
Te: TJ Hockensen, Gesicki, Hurst
1 2020 first, 1 2020 2nd, 1 2020 3rd, 1 2020 4th
Devy superflex
Qb: Cousins, Prescott, Lamar Jackson
Rb: Marlon Mack, Tevin Coleman, Rex Burkhead,, Mcguire, Edwards
Wr: Antonio Brown, Amari Cooper, Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, Tre'quan Smith, John Brown, Carlos Henderson, Josh Malone, Ryan Switzer, Taywan Taylor, Leonte Carroo, Antonio Callaway
Te: David Njoku, O.J. Howard, Mark Andrews,
devy: Deondre Francois, Cam Akers, Bryce Love, Myles Gaskin, Sewo Olonilua, Jalen Reagor, Peoples-Jones, Noah Fant
Qb: Kyler Murray, Dak Presscott, Sam Darnold,
Rb: Derrick Henry, Latavius Murray, Darrell Henderson, Dexter Williams, Brian Hill
Wr: Chris Godwin, Stefon Diggs, Courtland Sutton, DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Tre'Quan Smith, Daesean Hamilton, Josh Reynolds, Trey Quin, Snead,
Te: TJ Hockensen, Gesicki, Hurst
1 2020 first, 1 2020 2nd, 1 2020 3rd, 1 2020 4th
Devy superflex
Qb: Cousins, Prescott, Lamar Jackson
Rb: Marlon Mack, Tevin Coleman, Rex Burkhead,, Mcguire, Edwards
Wr: Antonio Brown, Amari Cooper, Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, Tre'quan Smith, John Brown, Carlos Henderson, Josh Malone, Ryan Switzer, Taywan Taylor, Leonte Carroo, Antonio Callaway
Te: David Njoku, O.J. Howard, Mark Andrews,
devy: Deondre Francois, Cam Akers, Bryce Love, Myles Gaskin, Sewo Olonilua, Jalen Reagor, Peoples-Jones, Noah Fant
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Hakeem Butler over Marquise Brown? Oh boy.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
It’s crazy 3 ole miss player!! Just didn’t watch enough of them, but will have to. I just have a specific liking to Brown, Butler, Samuel, and JJ. I think with Riley having the nfl pedigree (Calvin) should be should be high.
Team2- 12 team, PPR/IDP -- 29 roster
1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1FLEX --2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1FLEX
QB- ARod, Carr
RB- CMC, JKD, Edmonds, Conner, Penny, D Williams (KC), Hubbard, Evans
WR- Kupp,Deebo, DJ Moore, AJB, Mooney, Sutton, N Collins, Q Watkins, Treadwell, Wesley, Hamler
TE- Andrews, H. Henry, Kmet
DL- Judon, Crosby, J Allen, Oweh
LB- J Brooks, E Jones, K Barnes
DB- V Bell, J Abram, J Holland
Picks- 8-12 range 1,2,3,4
1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1FLEX --2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1FLEX
QB- ARod, Carr
RB- CMC, JKD, Edmonds, Conner, Penny, D Williams (KC), Hubbard, Evans
WR- Kupp,Deebo, DJ Moore, AJB, Mooney, Sutton, N Collins, Q Watkins, Treadwell, Wesley, Hamler
TE- Andrews, H. Henry, Kmet
DL- Judon, Crosby, J Allen, Oweh
LB- J Brooks, E Jones, K Barnes
DB- V Bell, J Abram, J Holland
Picks- 8-12 range 1,2,3,4
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