Damien Williams - convince me

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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:18 pm

Flgatorguy87 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:01 pm I think the window for buying him cheap will end. This guy is going to win leagues for people this year.

I am glad I didn't sell for some of the junk I saw early on.
It already has.
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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby Phaded » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:26 pm

There will be another one during the season.
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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:27 pm

Reid came out strong with endorsement today. Said he was the starter for the year, and he was given the role.
SF PPR 30 man roster 5 taxi 2 IR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 2TE, 2FLEX , Superflex

A. Rodgers, J. Goff, D. Lock, Ta. Hill

O. Beckham, Antonio Brown, M. Evans, A. Robinson, S. Diggs, C. Sutton, T. Boyd, Jakobi Meyers, S. Sims Jr., Darius Slayton

S. Barkley, Da. Cook, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, R. Penny, Ronald Jones, W. Gallman, Duke Johnson, AJ Dillon, Darrynton Evans, DeeJay Dallas, L. Perine

G. Kittle, M. Andrews, H. Hurst

Taxi: R. Armstead, Joe Reed, L. Bowden Jr., I. Coulter, Scotty Miller

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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:31 pm

Flgatorguy87 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:27 pm Reid came out strong with endorsement today. Said he was the starter for the year, and he was given the role.
Yeah, he'll be the starter to start the year. As long as he doesn't struggle, he will keep it. If he does, I think he will have a short leash.
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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:42 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:31 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:27 pm Reid came out strong with endorsement today. Said he was the starter for the year, and he was given the role.
Yeah, he'll be the starter to start the year. As long as he doesn't struggle, he will keep it. If he does, I think he will have a short leash.
I agree if he's terrible he will get pulled, but I don't think Reid is even looking to the bench unless its absolutely neccessary. I think many assume this is some tryout for a starter spot. I think he is a locked in starter, will put up top 5 numbers, and is being treated by many as a Flex/RB2. Or at least that's how he was perceived. People are starting to reevaluate now and give themselves wiggle room to still say they were right.
SF PPR 30 man roster 5 taxi 2 IR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 2TE, 2FLEX , Superflex

A. Rodgers, J. Goff, D. Lock, Ta. Hill

O. Beckham, Antonio Brown, M. Evans, A. Robinson, S. Diggs, C. Sutton, T. Boyd, Jakobi Meyers, S. Sims Jr., Darius Slayton

S. Barkley, Da. Cook, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, R. Penny, Ronald Jones, W. Gallman, Duke Johnson, AJ Dillon, Darrynton Evans, DeeJay Dallas, L. Perine

G. Kittle, M. Andrews, H. Hurst

Taxi: R. Armstead, Joe Reed, L. Bowden Jr., I. Coulter, Scotty Miller

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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby Hottoddies » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:04 pm

Flgatorguy87 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:27 pm Reid came out strong with endorsement today. Said he was the starter for the year, and he was given the role.
Do you have a source for this story? I can't find it anywhere on the internet.
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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby Blueboy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:08 pm

Hottoddies wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:04 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:27 pm Reid came out strong with endorsement today. Said he was the starter for the year, and he was given the role.
Do you have a source for this story? I can't find it anywhere on the internet.
Could be wrong, but I believe he's referring to this: https://www.chiefs.com/video/top-traini ... ver-as-rb1

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QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby Hottoddies » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:30 pm

Blueboy wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:08 pm
Hottoddies wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:04 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:27 pm Reid came out strong with endorsement today. Said he was the starter for the year, and he was given the role.
Do you have a source for this story? I can't find it anywhere on the internet.
Could be wrong, but I believe he's referring to this: https://www.chiefs.com/video/top-traini ... ver-as-rb1
That's actually from a June 8th press conference. But it sounds like Andy Reid thinks that Damien has earned the right to be the man and that they are going to challenge him with that task.
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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:39 pm

I like him a lot.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby blemly » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:13 pm

We all like Williams here, but if you have a chance to sell for what is the likely 1.01 you have to make that trade, right?
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth

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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby MrUbuto » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:01 pm

blemly wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:13 pm We all like Williams here, but if you have a chance to sell for what is the likely 1.01 you have to make that trade, right?
Heck yea. Even if he does have a great 2019 you're still much better off with a top 3 rookie picm
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021

Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:40 pm

Flgatorguy87 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:42 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:31 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:27 pm Reid came out strong with endorsement today. Said he was the starter for the year, and he was given the role.
Yeah, he'll be the starter to start the year. As long as he doesn't struggle, he will keep it. If he does, I think he will have a short leash.
I agree if he's terrible he will get pulled, but I don't think Reid is even looking to the bench unless its absolutely neccessary. I think many assume this is some tryout for a starter spot. I think he is a locked in starter, will put up top 5 numbers, and is being treated by many as a Flex/RB2. Or at least that's how he was perceived. People are starting to reevaluate now and give themselves wiggle room to still say they were right.
I'd argue that ceiling, but it's certainly within the range of outcomes.
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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:05 am

blemly wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:13 pm We all like Williams here, but if you have a chance to sell for what is the likely 1.01 you have to make that trade, right?
Oh for sure.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:37 am

Yeah I have no issues trading him for Kyler Murray or Jacobs straight up because of situation. I would get on board with Harry as well, but outside of that I don't think I could do a 1 for 1 for him.

I find myself pulling more towards situation/coaching/opportunity every season.
SF PPR 30 man roster 5 taxi 2 IR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 2TE, 2FLEX , Superflex

A. Rodgers, J. Goff, D. Lock, Ta. Hill

O. Beckham, Antonio Brown, M. Evans, A. Robinson, S. Diggs, C. Sutton, T. Boyd, Jakobi Meyers, S. Sims Jr., Darius Slayton

S. Barkley, Da. Cook, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, R. Penny, Ronald Jones, W. Gallman, Duke Johnson, AJ Dillon, Darrynton Evans, DeeJay Dallas, L. Perine

G. Kittle, M. Andrews, H. Hurst

Taxi: R. Armstead, Joe Reed, L. Bowden Jr., I. Coulter, Scotty Miller

2021 - 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Damien Williams - convince me

Postby kmbryant09 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:20 am

Anyone think D. Thompson can carve out a pass-catching / change-of-pace role on this team? I know D. Williams excels as a pass-catcher, but perhaps they spell him with Thompson. I think a lot of people project Thompson into a Cohen-esque role (optimistically), is there any chance he'd be next in line if he continues to show well this off-season?
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich


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