Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
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Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
I know some leagues give a home-field advantage. What I'm thinking is whether it would be a good idea to award a pointbonus to higher playoff seeds, to reward them for their regular season performances.
As an example, if you have six teams in the playoffs, seeds 3 and 4 each would each get a 5 point bonus in their match-ups with seeds 6 and 5, respectively. Then in the semi-finals, seeds 1 and 2 would each have a 5 point bonus in their match-ups. My gut tells me that this concept should not extend this concept to the final, but it easily could.
The premise of course is that top seeds have earned, probably deserve some form of advantage, especially versus the wild card seeds. Fantasy match-ups are extremely unpredictable from week to week, and it sucks to see a top team lose to a fledgling team who gets hot at the right moment (unless your team is the one who gets hot).
Anyway, just wanted to throw this out there to generate some discussion and debate.
As an example, if you have six teams in the playoffs, seeds 3 and 4 each would each get a 5 point bonus in their match-ups with seeds 6 and 5, respectively. Then in the semi-finals, seeds 1 and 2 would each have a 5 point bonus in their match-ups. My gut tells me that this concept should not extend this concept to the final, but it easily could.
The premise of course is that top seeds have earned, probably deserve some form of advantage, especially versus the wild card seeds. Fantasy match-ups are extremely unpredictable from week to week, and it sucks to see a top team lose to a fledgling team who gets hot at the right moment (unless your team is the one who gets hot).
Anyway, just wanted to throw this out there to generate some discussion and debate.
Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
I don't care for the idea of adding any points but if contemplating something like this, why are you using something arbitrary like seeding?
Basic scenario:. Suppose I'm in a league that uses divisions and I finish second in mine with both a W-L record and "points for" better than that of the divisional winner who ended up as the #2 seed. He/She already benefited from divisional alignment that earned a bye, you're also awarding points to them in our matchup if I face that team in the second round game? I don't see how that could be fair.
Basic scenario:. Suppose I'm in a league that uses divisions and I finish second in mine with both a W-L record and "points for" better than that of the divisional winner who ended up as the #2 seed. He/She already benefited from divisional alignment that earned a bye, you're also awarding points to them in our matchup if I face that team in the second round game? I don't see how that could be fair.
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
That's a hard no for me. Getting a bye is good enough. Any given sunday is part of the H2H format, if you don't like that then switch your format I'd say.
Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
Top seed should get a first round bye, or some form of financial compensation for their performance over the first 12 or 13 weeks. If you give neither of those, then sure, as i strongly believe the regular season should provide something beyond just removing teams that can't even finish in the top half of a league (or worse).
My preference in order for league structure would be:
1. First Round Bye for top two seeds
2. Financial payment to top seed
3. 'Home Field Advantage'
My preference in order for league structure would be:
1. First Round Bye for top two seeds
2. Financial payment to top seed
3. 'Home Field Advantage'
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
x2timtebow420 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:34 am That's a hard no for me. Getting a bye is good enough. Any given sunday is part of the H2H format, if you don't like that then switch your format I'd say.
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
Absolutely not. Frankly, I think this is an absurd idea and would raise all sorts of hell if it was propositioned in my leagues.
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
Teams shouldn't get any advantage in a H2H. It's fantasy football. Variance is what makes it fun.
Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
The biggest advantage we've given our #1 is just like the NFL:
- Round 1 Bye
- Round 2 Play the Lowest Available Seed
Unfortunately for our #1 this year he ended up playing the #4, who lost Hunt and some injuries that hurt his team late in the season but had the most PF with guys like Gurley, Juju, MT, etc.
- Round 1 Bye
- Round 2 Play the Lowest Available Seed
Unfortunately for our #1 this year he ended up playing the #4, who lost Hunt and some injuries that hurt his team late in the season but had the most PF with guys like Gurley, Juju, MT, etc.
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
I can accept an argument along the lines of "the variance of FF is what makes it fun". This argument doesn't ring right to me because the higher seeds in the NFL DO get advantages aside from the bye- they get home field advantage. If anything, this idea is an attempt to keep it more true to the NFL, down to providing no points edge for the championship game, just like a neutral field Super Bowl.
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
So you want to make the best teams better? The advantage is having a team that earned the top seed.
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So then would you propose setting home and away teams all season and give a similar advantage? Otherwise the logic really doesn't hold.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:35 am this idea is an attempt to keep it more true to the NFL
Also this idea of being true to the NFL. The fantasy game isn't the same and we shouldn't make it so. If you want to take that approach then go back to strictly TD only leagues. No one wants that...
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
Yes, that's something that could be done in the regular season. It obviously would be independent of seeding.skip wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:53 amSo then would you propose setting home and away teams all season and give a similar advantage? Otherwise the logic really doesn't hold.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:35 am this idea is an attempt to keep it more true to the NFL
If you want to make it even more NFL-like, consistently strong teams (repeat playoff appearances, champ game appearances, and division winners) would give bigger home field bonuses. Home teams in divisional games would get more bonuses than home teams hosting non divisional opponents.
I don't know of a way to automate that, and the value of this scheme could easily be outweighed by having to do everything manually.
Your first point would be an interesting discussion, but the 2nd point seems like overstating the position for effect.Also this idea of being true to the NFL. The fantasy game isn't the same and we shouldn't make it so. If you want to take that approach then go back to strictly TD only leagues. No one wants that...
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
Exactly. This is a step in that direction, where 7-9 teams occasionally get a division title and a home game, and have a distinct advantage over teams who have a better record and must fly all the way across the country to play in the Pacific Northwest in one of the most hostile stadiums in the NFL and a running back who was an absolute beast.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:35 amI can accept an argument along the lines of "the variance of FF is what makes it fun". This argument doesn't ring right to me because the higher seeds in the NFL DO get advantages aside from the bye- they get home field advantage. If anything, this idea is an attempt to keep it more true to the NFL, down to providing no points edge for the championship game, just like a neutral field Super Bowl.
I totally understand however that the concept is not for everyone. I was once also vehemently opposed to the concept of bonuses, especially in the regular season. However, I could see it now for the wildcard matchups and the conference championships.
Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
Because I'm 100% opposed to the idea of "home field advantage" in fantasy. You're either going for an NFL like model or you aren't. I'm not going to support giving points to a team arbitrarily.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:34 amYes, that's something that could be done in the regular season. It obviously would be independent of seeding.skip wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:53 amSo then would you propose setting home and away teams all season and give a similar advantage? Otherwise the logic really doesn't hold.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:35 am this idea is an attempt to keep it more true to the NFL
If you want to make it even more NFL-like, consistently strong teams (repeat playoff appearances, champ game appearances, and division winners) would give bigger home field bonuses. Home teams in divisional games would get more bonuses than home teams hosting non divisional opponents.
I don't know of a way to automate that, and the value of this scheme could easily be outweighed by having to do everything manually.
Your first point would be an interesting discussion, but the 2nd point seems like overstating the position for effect.Also this idea of being true to the NFL. The fantasy game isn't the same and we shouldn't make it so. If you want to take that approach then go back to strictly TD only leagues. No one wants that...
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Re: Should top seeds get a bonus in the playoffs?
Stupidest rule ever. This is FF, not real football. The home field advantage is for betting and doesn't translate to fantasy. No NFL scoreboards starts out 3-0. The players already have a real built in advantage when they play at home and are in your fantasy lineup.
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