2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby hoos89 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:58 am

Gave:
Tyler Boyd
Tony Pollard

Received:
Early-mid 2020 1st, 3rd, and 4th
Beasley
LaCosse

Gave:
2020 1st from easily the league favorite (he got Tyreek in the 6th round of our June startup, and otherwise drafted quite well)
Early-mid 3rd and 4th (from above)

Received:
Early 2020 1st

I now have 5 firsts, all projected top 6.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Wentz, M. Jones
Taylor, Chubb, Ekeler, J. Williams, M. Carter, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed
AJB, Chase, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, A. St. Brown, MVS, Agholor, Palmer
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Z. Wilson, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Etienne, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, Evans, McLaurin, Thielen, Cooks, Jeudy, Waddle, R. Moore, Berrios, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Herndon
2022 Picks: 2, 3

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Vcize » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:51 am

Well I know everyone is going to hate it but I wanted a Murray share in one of my highish stakes leagues so I overpaid for him.

$500 FFPC 1qb

Gave: Russell Wilson, Duke Johnson, 2020 2nd (likely late)
Got: Kyler Murray, 2020 3rd (early/mid)
12 Team FFPC TE Premium
QB: Murray, Brady
RB: Barkley, Mixon, A Jones, Coleman, Ballage
WR: Hopkins, Hill, Evans, J Jefferson, Fulgham, Preston
TE: Goedert

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby RB6 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:54 am

Vcize wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:51 am
Well I know everyone is going to hate it but I wanted a Murray share in one of my highish stakes leagues so I overpaid for him.

$500 FFPC 1qb

Gave: Russell Wilson, Duke Johnson, 2020 2nd (likely late)
Got: Kyler Murray, 2020 3rd (early/mid)
Wow that is just awful. You gave up the three best pieces in the deal.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Eason, Ehlinger, Haskins
Adams, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Samuel, MWill, Kirk, Shepard, Parris, Hamler, Van J., S. Williams
Dobbins, Zeke, Montgomery, Mostert, Hines, Pollard, Gainwell, Hawkins, Rountree
Andrews, Knox

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, ARod, Foles, Mullens, Eason
Henry, Robinson, Hines, Mack, Evans, Duke, Breida, D. Freeman, Royce, Hawkins
Hill, DK, KA, Kupp, Crowder, Slayton, Washington, Collin, Dede, Fitzpatrick, S. Williams
Andrews

.5PPR TE1.5 1Q/3W/2R/1SF/3F
Allen, Hurts, Tyrod, Mariota
Ridley, Lockett, Parker, Landry, Agholor, Shepard, Patrick, Dede, Miller, Atwell, ISM, Darby
Cook, Henry, MG, Mattison, Lindsay, Penny, Hawkins, Patterson, Evans
Andrews, Goedert, McKitty

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby hoos89 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:01 pm

RB6 wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:54 am
Vcize wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:51 am
Well I know everyone is going to hate it but I wanted a Murray share in one of my highish stakes leagues so I overpaid for him.

$500 FFPC 1qb

Gave: Russell Wilson, Duke Johnson, 2020 2nd (likely late)
Got: Kyler Murray, 2020 3rd (early/mid)
Wow that is just awful. You gave up the three best pieces in the deal.
What? Kyler Murray is worth more than Duke Johnson or a late 2020 2nd. Agreed this is a terrible deal, though.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Wentz, M. Jones
Taylor, Chubb, Ekeler, J. Williams, M. Carter, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed
AJB, Chase, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, A. St. Brown, MVS, Agholor, Palmer
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Z. Wilson, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Etienne, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, Evans, McLaurin, Thielen, Cooks, Jeudy, Waddle, R. Moore, Berrios, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Herndon
2022 Picks: 2, 3

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:07 pm

Team 2

Gave Hamilton and Gallup
Got Penny
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Gaskin, Dillon, Gaskin, Mostert, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Ryan, Lance, Love
RB: Saquon, Dobbins, Jacobs, Hunt, Javonte, Hubbard
WR: AJB, DJM, Chark, C. Davis, C. Samuel, Ruggs, Mike Will, Mooney, Hardman, G. Davis, T. Marshall, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Irv, Gesicki
2022: 1, 1, 3, 3

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Vcize » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:15 pm

RB6 wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:54 am
Vcize wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:51 am
Well I know everyone is going to hate it but I wanted a Murray share in one of my highish stakes leagues so I overpaid for him.

$500 FFPC 1qb

Gave: Russell Wilson, Duke Johnson, 2020 2nd (likely late)
Got: Kyler Murray, 2020 3rd (early/mid)
Wow that is just awful. You gave up the three best pieces in the deal.
Kyler's FFPC ADP is 3 rounds ahead of Wilson, 5 rounds ahead of Duke, and 7 rounds ahead of the 13th 2019 rookie (best estimate for a random 2020 2nd's value in a startup).
12 Team FFPC TE Premium
QB: Murray, Brady
RB: Barkley, Mixon, A Jones, Coleman, Ballage
WR: Hopkins, Hill, Evans, J Jefferson, Fulgham, Preston
TE: Goedert

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Mephistopheles » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:47 pm

Took over an orphan in a 12 team SF PPR league. Team finished 3rd in the league lat year but had a lot of uncertainty in pieces that I wanted to get out from under. Start QRWT SF FFFF (that's 5 flexes including 1 SF).

Started with:
QB: Brady, Watson, Dalton, Foles
RB: CMC, Gordon, Damien Williams, Carson, Lindsay, Hunt
WR: Julio, Hilton, Keenan, C. Samuel, DJ Moore
TE: Engram, Everett
No first round pick

Trade 1:
Gave Nick Foles
Got: MVS, J. Washington

Trade 2:
Gave Damien Williams, 4.10
Got: 1.10 (took Hockenson), J. Jackson

Trade 3:
Gave: Keenan, Carson, 2.10 (other guy took Mattison)
Got: C. Ridley, D. Henry, Gallup, 2.11 (Took Hardman)

New team structure:

QB: Brady, Watson, Dalton
RB: CMC, MG3, D. Henry, Lindsay, Hunt, J. Jackson
WR: Julio, Hilton, DJ Moore, C. ridley, C. Samuel, MVS, J. Washington, Gallup, Hardman (drafted 2.11), P. Williams (Drafted 3.10)
TE: Engram, Hockenson, Everett
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.

From the home office in Grand Rapids, MI, the Top 5 signs you suck as a trade partner (and probably as a human being)

5. You can name or fabricate 5 risks on every player not on your team.
4. You always respond that you don't value another team's players as highly as they do.
3. You steer conversations away from ADP or any other form of consensus or rankings to gauge trade value.
2. Your trade strategy centers around seeing where someone's at on a player or that "it's just a first offer".
1. Your trade offers are rejected without counter or outright ignored.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby gogobradyarm » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:38 pm

Traded Wentz for Wilson/2nd/3rd.
12 Team - PPR - 35man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE

QB: Lamar, Watson, Lance, Wentz, Mariota
RB: Cook, Zeke, Chubb, Najee Harris, Mattison
WR: Adams, Hopkins, Diggs, Jefferson, Miles Boykin, Dante Pettis, Scotty Miller, Tim Patrick, Quez Watkins
TE: Pitts, Goedert, Engram, Ertz, Parham, Ian Thomas, Josh Oliver

2022: 1st, 3rd
Won title in 2020!

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Slackalacker » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:09 pm

Just completed

Give: Gurley, Michael Thomas, 2.8
Got: Davante Adams, Amari Cooper, Devonta Freeman, 1.5
TEAM 1 - 10 team SF 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ
1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2.2/2.8/4.2/4.5
QB: DangeRuss - Wentz - Tua - Hurts - Eason - Mullens
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Davis - Pollard - Hill - Eno
WR: Hill - MThom - Godwin - Jefferson - DJM - Higgins - Hollywood - Pittman - Edwards - Mims - Campbell - Keke - Meyers - Peoples-Jones
TE: Hock - Engram

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Slackalacker » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:13 pm

gogobradyarm wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:38 pm
Traded Wentz for Wilson/2nd/3rd.
I would have taken Wilson straight up, good job getting free picks.
TEAM 1 - 10 team SF 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ
1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2.2/2.8/4.2/4.5
QB: DangeRuss - Wentz - Tua - Hurts - Eason - Mullens
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Davis - Pollard - Hill - Eno
WR: Hill - MThom - Godwin - Jefferson - DJM - Higgins - Hollywood - Pittman - Edwards - Mims - Campbell - Keke - Meyers - Peoples-Jones
TE: Hock - Engram

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby TheNuts » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:14 pm

Vcize wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:51 am
Well I know everyone is going to hate it but I wanted a Murray share in one of my highish stakes leagues so I overpaid for him.

$500 FFPC 1qb

Gave: Russell Wilson, Duke Johnson, 2020 2nd (likely late)
Got: Kyler Murray, 2020 3rd (early/mid)
Good deal for you. I love Wilson, but going from the qb of the lowest pass attempts to most pass attempts is a good bet
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby hoos89 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:47 pm

Slackalacker wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:09 pm
Just completed

Give: Gurley, Michael Thomas, 2.8
Got: Davante Adams, Amari Cooper, Devonta Freeman, 1.5
That seems close to 2018 value for Gurley...well done.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Wentz, M. Jones
Taylor, Chubb, Ekeler, J. Williams, M. Carter, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed
AJB, Chase, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, A. St. Brown, MVS, Agholor, Palmer
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Z. Wilson, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Etienne, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, Evans, McLaurin, Thielen, Cooks, Jeudy, Waddle, R. Moore, Berrios, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Herndon
2022 Picks: 2, 3

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Vcize » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:39 pm

hoos89 wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:47 pm
Slackalacker wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:09 pm
Just completed

Give: Gurley, Michael Thomas, 2.8
Got: Davante Adams, Amari Cooper, Devonta Freeman, 1.5
That seems close to 2018 value for Gurley...well done.
Does it! Adams/Thomas are a wash so it's basically Gurley for Cooper, Freeman, 1.5 which I don't think is anywhere near 2018 value for Gurley.
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QB: Murray, Brady
RB: Barkley, Mixon, A Jones, Coleman, Ballage
WR: Hopkins, Hill, Evans, J Jefferson, Fulgham, Preston
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby hoos89 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:04 am

Per mizelle, Cooper's current ADP is #20 and Freeman's is #54. So what is the value of #20 plus #54 plus 1.05? Maybe not quite 2018 Gurley, but I'd say that's top 5 value.

In any case, it's certainly more than current value given that Gurley and Cooper are about even in ADP.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Wentz, M. Jones
Taylor, Chubb, Ekeler, J. Williams, M. Carter, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed
AJB, Chase, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, A. St. Brown, MVS, Agholor, Palmer
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Z. Wilson, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Etienne, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, Evans, McLaurin, Thielen, Cooks, Jeudy, Waddle, R. Moore, Berrios, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Herndon
2022 Picks: 2, 3

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Slackalacker » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:50 am

hoos89 wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:04 am
Per mizelle, Cooper's current ADP is #20 and Freeman's is #54. So what is the value of #20 plus #54 plus 1.05? Maybe not quite 2018 Gurley, but I'd say that's top 5 value.

In any case, it's certainly more than current value given that Gurley and Cooper are about even in ADP.
I didn’t want to get rid of gurley but I figured that was solid value especially if freeman can stay healthy. My goal is to flip some pieces for a younger RB.

Personally I view Adams as a 2nd more than MThom which gave me more perceived value.
TEAM 1 - 10 team SF 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ
1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2.2/2.8/4.2/4.5
QB: DangeRuss - Wentz - Tua - Hurts - Eason - Mullens
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Davis - Pollard - Hill - Eno
WR: Hill - MThom - Godwin - Jefferson - DJM - Higgins - Hollywood - Pittman - Edwards - Mims - Campbell - Keke - Meyers - Peoples-Jones
TE: Hock - Engram


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