2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby TheNuts » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:12 am

hockeyBjj wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:35 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:07 am 14 team SF rebuild planning for 2021 competing (maybe 2020 if im lucky)

sent ty hill and jalen samuels

got Juju
Nice. Get rid of the headache Tyreek before something else flairs up and you didn't undersell him during the months people were saying he's toast.
I think this mentality is really going to burn some owners. Hill is going to be top 3 this year. The only receivers I can see topping him are obj or Hopkins.
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby IR1 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:37 am

hockeyBjj wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:35 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:07 am 14 team SF rebuild planning for 2021 competing (maybe 2020 if im lucky)

sent ty hill and jalen samuels

got Juju
Nice. Get rid of the headache Tyreek before something else flairs up and you didn't undersell him during the months people were saying he's toast.
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QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
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DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:46 am

hockeyBjj wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:35 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:07 am 14 team SF rebuild planning for 2021 competing (maybe 2020 if im lucky)

sent ty hill and jalen samuels

got Juju
Nice. Get rid of the headache Tyreek before something else flairs up and you didn't undersell him during the months people were saying he's toast.
This. Even if Hill picks up where he left off last year, I'll take the younger, much less risky Juju.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby TheNuts » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:58 am

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:46 am
hockeyBjj wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:35 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:07 am 14 team SF rebuild planning for 2021 competing (maybe 2020 if im lucky)

sent ty hill and jalen samuels

got Juju
Nice. Get rid of the headache Tyreek before something else flairs up and you didn't undersell him during the months people were saying he's toast.
This. Even if Hill picks up where he left off last year, I'll take the younger, much less risky Juju.
Except Juju can't hold Hills jock as far as talent is concerned. Best player with the ball in his hands plus the best qb in the league should equal much more than Juju
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:25 am

TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:58 am
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:46 am
hockeyBjj wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:35 am

Nice. Get rid of the headache Tyreek before something else flairs up and you didn't undersell him during the months people were saying he's toast.
This. Even if Hill picks up where he left off last year, I'll take the younger, much less risky Juju.
Except Juju can't hold Hills jock as far as talent is concerned. Best player with the ball in his hands plus the best qb in the league should equal much more than Juju
TheNuts is swinging a little hard from Tyreek's nuts it seems

This is a definitely risk/reward move. There can be greater reward with Hill (top 3 potential each year as opposed to top 7 potential). But a much greater risk with personal life shortening his NFL career. Plus, Juju is 3 years younger. That doesn't mean much today since even Hill is only 25. But if planning on holding and riding the WR could affect things down the road.
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2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

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2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:53 am

TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:58 am
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:46 am
hockeyBjj wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:35 am

Nice. Get rid of the headache Tyreek before something else flairs up and you didn't undersell him during the months people were saying he's toast.
This. Even if Hill picks up where he left off last year, I'll take the younger, much less risky Juju.
Except Juju can't hold Hills jock as far as talent is concerned. Best player with the ball in his hands plus the best qb in the league should equal much more than Juju
Well, we definitely disagree there. Juju's talent is on the same level as Hill's, IMO.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby RCS » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:20 pm

I will take the Hill side as well.

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby RCS » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:23 pm

12 team 1 qb,2 rb, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex, idp league with .5 ppr and 1 point for TE

Gave: Anthony Miller and most likely mid to late 2020 2nd
Got: Terry McLaurian and most likely mid 2020 1st.

I think my team can compete this year and now I got 5 2020 1sts and 6 2020 2nds for trade ammo when the season gets going.

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby TheNuts » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:34 pm

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:53 am
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:58 am
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:46 am

This. Even if Hill picks up where he left off last year, I'll take the younger, much less risky Juju.
Except Juju can't hold Hills jock as far as talent is concerned. Best player with the ball in his hands plus the best qb in the league should equal much more than Juju
Well, we definitely disagree there. Juju's talent is on the same level as Hill's, IMO.
You have to be joking. It's not even debatable. Might as well say Derrick Carr has talent on par with Brady
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:37 pm

TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:34 pm
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:53 am
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:58 am
Except Juju can't hold Hills jock as far as talent is concerned. Best player with the ball in his hands plus the best qb in the league should equal much more than Juju
Well, we definitely disagree there. Juju's talent is on the same level as Hill's, IMO.
You have to be joking. It's not even debatable. Might as well say Derrick Carr has talent on par with Brady
I honestly had no idea that was a bold position to take.

Juju had almost identical numbers last year at a younger age. Tyreek might be more exciting, but Juju is more the type to get fed targets. He's a top WR in the NFL just like Hill.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby TheNuts » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:11 pm

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:37 pm
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:34 pm
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:53 am

Well, we definitely disagree there. Juju's talent is on the same level as Hill's, IMO.
You have to be joking. It's not even debatable. Might as well say Derrick Carr has talent on par with Brady
I honestly had no idea that was a bold position to take.

Juju had almost identical numbers last year at a younger age. Tyreek might be more exciting, but Juju is more the type to get fed targets. He's a top WR in the NFL just like Hill.
Juju had Antonio taking a ton of heat off of him. I don't remember Juju being triple covered very often. Come on man, don't let your bias get in the way of rationale
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:25 pm

TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:11 pm
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:37 pm
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:34 pm
You have to be joking. It's not even debatable. Might as well say Derrick Carr has talent on par with Brady
I honestly had no idea that was a bold position to take.

Juju had almost identical numbers last year at a younger age. Tyreek might be more exciting, but Juju is more the type to get fed targets. He's a top WR in the NFL just like Hill.
Juju had Antonio taking a ton of heat off of him. I don't remember Juju being triple covered very often. Come on man, don't let your bias get in the way of rationale
:lol: I have zero shares of Juju and 2 shares of Tyreek
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby TheNuts » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:36 pm

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:25 pm
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:11 pm
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:37 pm

I honestly had no idea that was a bold position to take.

Juju had almost identical numbers last year at a younger age. Tyreek might be more exciting, but Juju is more the type to get fed targets. He's a top WR in the NFL just like Hill.
Juju had Antonio taking a ton of heat off of him. I don't remember Juju being triple covered very often. Come on man, don't let your bias get in the way of rationale
:lol: I have zero shares of Juju and 2 shares of Tyreek
I wasn't referring to you owning any player. I meant how you view Tyreek as a person outside football. If you don't have any bias from that then I honestly can't think how one could think Juju is in the same class as Hill
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Pullo Vision » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:10 pm

TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:36 pm
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:25 pm
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:11 pm

Juju had Antonio taking a ton of heat off of him. I don't remember Juju being triple covered very often. Come on man, don't let your bias get in the way of rationale
:lol: I have zero shares of Juju and 2 shares of Tyreek
I wasn't referring to you owning any player. I meant how you view Tyreek as a person outside football. If you don't have any bias from that then I honestly can't think how one could think Juju is in the same class as Hill
So rather than ask why he values one over the other, you assume with no evidence.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby TheNuts » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:12 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:10 pm
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:36 pm
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:25 pm

:lol: I have zero shares of Juju and 2 shares of Tyreek
I wasn't referring to you owning any player. I meant how you view Tyreek as a person outside football. If you don't have any bias from that then I honestly can't think how one could think Juju is in the same class as Hill
So rather than ask why he values one over the other, you assume with no evidence.
It doesn't matter because the reason people give for devaluing Hill is BS. I don't think there is any issue to worry about with future incidents. But I get why people like Juju. He is a good receiver with a good qb. My main contention is that as a talent vs talent comparison Juju is not in Hills class. He is a true freak, and his qb is a freak.
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver


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