Kalen Ballage value?

[jcc6fd]

How much value does a RB who was never the lead back in college and went on day 3 of the NFL draft typically have? Add to that he is on a terrible offense in the NFL. He doesn't have much value at all.

But he's big and fast...

[CGW]

He had an adp in the second round of most rookie drafts in 2018, and has done little to lose/gain much value since. One could argue he is closer to a starting role now than when he was drafted, as gore is gone and almost no competition added (Gaskin). I'm still holding, but if I get another chance to sell for a high second or first I'll gladly part with him. One injury, or poor performance from Drake and I should get that chance.

[Vcize]

How much value does a RB who was never the lead back in college and went on day 3 of the NFL draft typically have? Add to that he is on a terrible offense in the NFL. He doesn't have much value at all.

But he's big and fast...

It's not like people are spending 1st round picks on him. His value seems to be early 3rd/late 2nd. Basically dart throw territory.

Yes he was an underutilized guy in college who wasn't picked on the first two days of the draft. So were Alvin Kamara, CJ Anderson, and many others who had some short runs of fantasy value/success.

[killer_of_giants]

I got him for pick 29 and a future 4th during my league draft.

curious, i drafted gaskin with that very same pick!

[pjoner]

Just moved him for a projected early 2020 second

[esloan35]

He could never be the bellcow at ASU and wont be in the NFL. He is a gadget guy that will show sparks. Previous articles on DLF describe the backs situation in Miami as fools gold. I would rather stash Gaskins and wait on him. Cash in now! Its time..

[Blueboy]

He could never be the bellcow at ASU and wont be in the NFL. He is a gadget guy that will show sparks. Previous articles on DLF describe the backs situation in Miami as fools gold. I would rather stash Gaskins and wait on him. Cash in now! Its time..

I was always buying him in the hopes that NFL-level coaching could bring out his potential.

[Sriracha]

He could never be the bellcow at ASU and wont be in the NFL. He is a gadget guy that will show sparks. Previous articles on DLF describe the backs situation in Miami as fools gold. I would rather stash Gaskins and wait on him. Cash in now! Its time..

I was always buying him in the hopes that NFL-level coaching could bring out his potential.

How often do RBs need coaching? It's mostly instincts... Which you either have by the time you're in the NFL or you don't.

Gaskins is a much much better prospect

[Phaded]

I took Gaskin as a flier in one league but would trade him for Ballage without any hesitation.

I think there are strong odds that Gaskin is not rostered in the NFL this time next year.

[Sriracha]

I took Gaskin as a flier in one league but would trade him for Ballage without any hesitation.

I think there are strong odds that Gaskin is not rostered in the NFL this time next year.

My problem with ballage: is he a better receiver than Drake? Nope. Is he a better runner than Gaskin? Nope. He's their biggest back, so maybe he's the goal line guy... on one of the worst projected offenses in the NFL. I'm just not excited about the upside of an over-sized satellite back who's not even the best receiver on his team.

At least Gaskins has the potential to be a legitimate RB.

[Blueboy]

He could never be the bellcow at ASU and wont be in the NFL. He is a gadget guy that will show sparks. Previous articles on DLF describe the backs situation in Miami as fools gold. I would rather stash Gaskins and wait on him. Cash in now! Its time..

I was always buying him in the hopes that NFL-level coaching could bring out his potential.

How often do RBs need coaching? It's mostly instincts... Which you either have by the time you're in the NFL or you don't.

Gaskins is a much much better prospect

I know this is a prevalent line of thinking among football, but I've always thought that it's a gross oversimplification. The running back position is still quite complex, and aspects of it -- particularly foot work, blocking, pass catching and scheme adjustments -- can be tremendously influenced by coaching for good or ill. Though I agree that it's the position least dependent on coaching, sure.

[Sriracha]

I was always buying him in the hopes that NFL-level coaching could bring out his potential.

How often do RBs need coaching? It's mostly instincts... Which you either have by the time you're in the NFL or you don't.

Gaskins is a much much better prospect

I know this is a prevalent line of thinking among football, but I've always thought that it's a gross oversimplification. The running back position is still quite complex, and aspects of it -- particularly foot work, blocking, pass catching and scheme adjustments -- can be tremendously influenced by coaching for good or ill. Though I agree that it's the position least dependent on coaching, sure.

The rushing elements of RB are mostly scheme agnostic. Sure, you can coach up footwork to some degree, and passblocking + receiving... None of which are Ballage's problem.

Hes just not good at running between the tackles which is pretty important for your standard running back.

[Blueboy]

Not trying to derail this thread with a semantic debate, but I'd argue that scheme fit is one of the more important things to take into consideration when evaluating a running back's prospects.

[blemly]

Moving back to Ballage’s current value, I shipped him off in the following SF trade:

Ballage + Barnes + 2021 4th
D. Hamilton + Manning (I own Jones)

[DinoDynasty]

I feel dirty posting this. Team 1 in sig...

Team that earned the 1.1 this year and will inevitably have it next year reached out about Ballage. He offered to swap 1sts with me for Ballage.

His teams notables...
Brady, Kyler
Jacobs, McCoy, Mike Davis, Ballage
Kirk, marquise Lee, Dorset, Ross
Goedert, Fant

Thank god he has 4 1st next year