Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby Pullo Vision » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:59 pm

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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby Valhalla » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:18 pm

RB6 wrote:
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The death knell for me here was the Care Bears link. Also, the excessive use of emojis really hinders an argument.
:x Ah don’t be such a Grumpy Bear :ewink: :biggrin: :dance:

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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:48 pm

Thought about this concept today and it can not possibly be collusion if the whole league knows the contract for the rental player. The definition of collusion requires hiding it from others. So I don’t think it’s a moral issue like many in this thread made it out to be. The issue is being able to acquire a ton of picks, get the #1 pick and field a super team

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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby Bronco Billy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:57 pm

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:48 pm
The definition of collusion requires hiding it from others.
Since when?

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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby dynastyninja » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:22 pm

I like the concept if the league is designated a "rentals allowed" league from the beginning. If everyone knows going into the league that rentals are allowed and the proper frameworks are in place, I think it could be fun. Otherwise, it's probably an unfair advantage for certain teams.

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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby millworkguy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:07 pm

I'm in a number of contract leagues (most are salary cap) and I often see trades at the deadline that are obviously rental priced. Your going to lose the player for nothing at the end of the year, your our of the playoffs, so you take the beat offer at the trade deadline
Personally i'm against selling starters for 5th and 6th round picks, but I understand it.

However, agreements to trade the player back a few months later is wrong. Alot of my leagues have rules prohibiting teams from requiring a player within a year, from a team that traded them. They can go to a 3rd team, and back to the 1st, but not from a to b, and back to a within a yr.
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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby 95dent » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:37 pm

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:48 pm
Thought about this concept today and it can not possibly be collusion if the whole league knows the contract for the rental player. The definition of collusion requires hiding it from others. So I don’t think it’s a moral issue like many in this thread made it out to be. The issue is being able to acquire a ton of picks, get the #1 pick and field a super team
Actually the true definition of collusion is something done in secret and/OR outside of the parameters of the rules in which the act is relevant to.

My take on it is win with your team, not somebody else’s.

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Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:19 am

I guess I’m also working in the context that this “renting of players” is allowed in this hypothetical league. So if the rules allowed it, and the whole league knew about the trade it wouldn’t be collusion because it wasn’t an illegal move either. However I’m not suggesting it’s a good idea just fun conversation

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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby Bronco Billy » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:36 am

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote:
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I guess I’m also working in the context that this “renting of players” is allowed in this hypothetical league. So if the rules allowed it, and the whole league knew about the trade it wouldn’t be collusion because it wasn’t an illegal move either. However I’m not suggesting it’s a good idea just fun conversation
Yeah, if the league recognizes it and expressly allows it, then all owners went in with open eyes, so there’s no *****ing. But playing in a league that condones and allows collusion must be very frustrating.

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Re: Loaning/renting players... do any of you allow it?

Postby M-Dub » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:59 am

Still collusion two years later. I wouldn’t even want to play in a league that allows conditional trades, let alone something as egregious as rentals.
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