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What does that even mean? Because they are the Raiders they are in the wrong?SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:08 am Sometimes we forget that the Raiders are the Raiders. Somewhere along the way we somehow forgot or were led to believe they are not the villian in all situations.
My answer to that as a Chiefs fan - Always.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:15 amWhat does that even mean? Because they are the Raiders they are in the wrong?SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:08 am Sometimes we forget that the Raiders are the Raiders. Somewhere along the way we somehow forgot or were led to believe they are not the villian in all situations.
They cut him. Can’t get much stronger of a message than that. Suspending him four games seems like it would have triggered the same voiding of the guaranteed money and led us to this exact same spot.whodunnit wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:01 amI'm going to disagree with this. I don't care how good of a player you are, you're not above the team. I wish they would have suspended him the 4 games instead though; probably would have sent a stronger message.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:30 amMayock’s in over his head. You don’t fine elite players for missing practice unless its just a ploy to get them back to the negotiating table.
Agreed. Regardless of the result of this, the Gruden looks like a joke. He let AB pretty much do whatever he wanted with no penalty until Mayock stepped in. They wanted to bring him back after all that stuff.whodunnit wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:01 amI'm going to disagree with this. I don't care how good of a player you are, you're not above the team. I wish they would have suspended him the 4 games instead though; probably would have sent a stronger message.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:30 amMayock’s in over his head. You don’t fine elite players for missing practice unless its just a ploy to get them back to the negotiating table.
I was iffy on the signing, but the cost was minimal, so the upside was great. It didn't work out, and they ended up setting the right example of who is ultimately in charge. They will move on from this. On to Denver. LOL.Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:36 am People here that are trying to reason that this situation is in any way the Raiders' fault as an organization are down the rabbit hole IMO. You can opine they made a bad decision to sign him in the first place. But this entire saga has been created by the player, not the organization. The helmet saga was not of the Raiders doing, nor was his foot issue. The team tried to work with him while those dramas unfolded, but even after AB's appeal was denied, and his feet were healed he continued to rail against the system.
Mayock/Gruden are at least trying to change the culture that has existed in Oakland. The fining of Brown had to be done to show that his type of behavior would not be accepted without consequence. What's the player's reaction? Complain, post a private conversation on social media (not the first time), and request his release. I'm glad the Raiders complied. Goodbye malcontent, who never showed any interest in actually playing football during his short stay with the team.
Cryogate, then Helmetgate, followed by insubordination in front of the entire team. This guy hardly even practiced at all. I question his desire to even play football at this point. I won't be shocked if we've seen the last of AB on the field.
ericanadian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:24 amThey cut him. Can’t get much stronger of a message than that. Suspending him four games seems like it would have triggered the same voiding of the guaranteed money and led us to this exact same spot.whodunnit wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:01 amI'm going to disagree with this. I don't care how good of a player you are, you're not above the team. I wish they would have suspended him the 4 games instead though; probably would have sent a stronger message.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:30 am
Mayock’s in over his head. You don’t fine elite players for missing practice unless its just a ploy to get them back to the negotiating table.
As for your hardline approach, “I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about mandatory practice man. What are we talking about? mandatoryPractice? We're talking about mandatory practice, man. We're talking about mandatory practice. We're talking about mandatory practice. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about mandatorypractice, man.”
I’m not sure what you think adding “mandatory” in front of practice changes. It’s still practice.whodunnit wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:45 americanadian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:24 amThey cut him. Can’t get much stronger of a message than that. Suspending him four games seems like it would have triggered the same voiding of the guaranteed money and led us to this exact same spot.
As for your hardline approach, “I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about mandatory practice man. What are we talking about? mandatoryPractice? We're talking about mandatory practice, man. We're talking about mandatory practice. We're talking about mandatory practice. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about mandatorypractice, man.”
fixed it for you. and suspending him the 4 games and voiding the guaranteed money shows him that you're still his boss. He wanted released, and once again, they gave him what he wanted. that's why it sends a stronger message.
because "mandatory" means just that... you're required to be there. Regardless of any prior success you have had. He's not above anyone else on the team. Not showing up for mandatory events is unacceptable.... or does that not register to you?ericanadian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:50 amI’m not sure what you think adding “mandatory” in front of practice changes. It’s still practice.whodunnit wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:45 americanadian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:24 am
They cut him. Can’t get much stronger of a message than that. Suspending him four games seems like it would have triggered the same voiding of the guaranteed money and led us to this exact same spot.
As for your hardline approach, “I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about mandatory practice man. What are we talking about? mandatoryPractice? We're talking about mandatory practice, man. We're talking about mandatory practice. We're talking about mandatory practice. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about mandatorypractice, man.”
fixed it for you. and suspending him the 4 games and voiding the guaranteed money shows him that you're still his boss. He wanted released, and once again, they gave him what he wanted. that's why it sends a stronger message.