Antonio Brown - Alive & Well in TB?

[Dynasty DeLorean]

The team apparently had him do the apology, and then after the apology fined him & voided the guarantees without saying this was going to happen. He received the legal letter and it was a complete surprise.

That's a shitty thing to do. Everyone will talk about AB but the Raiders handled this horrendously.

Lmao if you think anyone is forcing ab to do anything at this point. You have no idea what was said or what guarantees were or were not made either.

[pvillebiker]

Perhaps the miscalculation on the Raiders part when they initially acquired AB was they thought they could manage him the same way Tomlin & the Steelers did. By living with most of his antics, but trying to keep everything in house and not fining him (and actually collecting) for every (or any?) offense. AB skips practice? Cool, pull him aside and talk to him. AB blows up cool, handle it internally. As long as he balls out in real games.

Maybe initially the Raider's tried to give AB the same "southwest treatment" - not fining him for his extra baggage. Mayock said something in response to AB's "everybody going to pay" instagram post that seems to support this. Something about "we handle things internally, not thru social media" (paraphrase). Clearly something recently changed sharply with the multiple fines. Thought I read where the Raiders actually collected too?

Net: AB proving what used to work with the Steelers no longer works with the Raiders (or any team). Is this guy simply impossible to roster for any NFL team going forward? Even if it's likely at least 1 more will try at some point...

[FantasyFreak]

Also Gruden didn't want to move forward with the fines and this was all on Mayock.

Freak was right above, without that initial fine - none of this happens.

Source? I'm interested because Mayock basically works for Gruden.

Does he though? Or is this the beginning of a power struggle?

It was talked about on NFL Network (I have had it on for the last two hours). Right now Drew Rosenhaus is live on a phone call, Drew did not explicitly say it but kind of hinted at it.

No, it isn't, IMO. Gruden has 100 million guaranteed, I don't think there is a power struggle. Perhaps Mayock convinced him, though. He respects Mike. Rosenhaus is an agent and has to do what's best for his client, including lie, so I don't trust what he says.

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The team apparently had him do the apology, and then after the apology fined him & voided the guarantees without saying this was going to happen. He received the legal letter and it was a complete surprise.

That's a shitty thing to do. Everyone will talk about AB but the Raiders handled this horrendously.

Lmao if you think anyone is forcing ab to do anything at this point. You have no idea what was said or what guarantees were or were not made either.

Immediately after the press conference, Mayock handed him the letter and it was not at all communicated that this was coming. Reportedly, AB was under the impression that he would apologise and move on to play Monday. Mayock is a clown who needs to go back to the tv network.

[pvillebiker]

dang - Raiders released AB...

[Phaded]

Source? I'm interested because Mayock basically works for Gruden.

Does he though? Or is this the beginning of a power struggle?

It was talked about on NFL Network (I have had it on for the last two hours). Right now Drew Rosenhaus is live on a phone call, Drew did not explicitly say it but kind of hinted at it.

No, it isn't, IMO. Gruden has 100 million guaranteed, I don't think there is a power struggle. Perhaps Mayock convinced him, though. He respects Mike. Rosenhaus is an agent and has to do what's best for his client, including lie, so I don't trust what he says.

Rosenhaus is not going to burn bridges with the Raiders and needs to be very careful of what he says; Trent Brown is also his client. So he's not going to explicitly criticize the Raiders but even hinting at it is huge. It was also reported pre-interview.

[jcc6fd]

Heard a rumor that Seattle is exploring possibility of landing AB. Wouldn’t be the craziest scenario

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Heard a rumor that Seattle is exploring possibility of landing AB. Wouldn’t be the craziest scenario

That run run pass offense would be a wonderful landing spot.. lol

[Jigga94]

So since he asked to be released does that mean he got cold feet?

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On the flip side.. Derek Carr is back to having nothing as receiving options.

[FantasyFreak]

The team apparently had him do the apology, and then after the apology fined him & voided the guarantees without saying this was going to happen. He received the legal letter and it was a complete surprise.

That's a shitty thing to do. Everyone will talk about AB but the Raiders handled this horrendously.

Lmao if you think anyone is forcing ab to do anything at this point. You have no idea what was said or what guarantees were or were not made either.

Immediately after the press conference, Mayock handed him the letter and it was not at all communicated that this was coming. Reportedly, AB was under the impression that he would apologise and move on to play Monday. Mayock is a clown who needs to go back to the tv network.

Where are you getting this? The message AB sent Rapsheet?

[jman3134]

So this situation was actually highly logical on AB's end, following his irrational blow up moment. He apologized to the team (even if he didn't want to play for them at that point), so he at least saved face. Then he releases a video at night suggesting he always has wanted to be a part of the organization and wants to play.

Whether Friday's taking away of his guarantees was known in advance or he was shocked by it Friday, he released the video to go full nuclear and get Mayock fired or at least create dissension between Mayock and Gruden. He was never going to play without guarantees, so this at least means there will probably be a market for him somewhere.

[whodunnit]

Also Gruden didn't want to move forward with the fines and this was all on Mayock.

Freak was right above, without that initial fine - none of this happens.

Mayock’s in over his head. You don’t fine elite players for missing practice unless its just a ploy to get them back to the negotiating table.

I'm going to disagree with this. I don't care how good of a player you are, you're not above the team. I wish they would have suspended him the 4 games instead though; probably would have sent a stronger message.

[killer_of_giants]

Heard a rumor that Seattle is exploring possibility of landing AB. Wouldn’t be the craziest scenario

That run run pass offense would be a wonderful landing spot.. lol

and not much cap space either iirc.

didn't the bills try to get him before he signed with the raiders?

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Sometimes we forget that the Raiders are the Raiders. Somewhere along the way we somehow forgot or were led to believe they are not the villian in all situations.