Yeah. The title of this thread was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek. Declaring someone the 2019 1.01 is a fool’s errand at this point, let alone the 2020 1.01. Definitely stoked about Shenault as a Buffs fan though. I wonder how many people tuned in to that game to check out Harry and came away more excited about Shenault.
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
I definitely don't think he's a lock, but he's been the most impressive player of this class so far to me. Maybe it's one of the Ole Miss WR's in Brown or Metcalf, but overall I still don't see a deep or even top heavy class here.alewilliam789 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:34 amI mean Brown looks good for Oklahoma, but no way he’s 1.01. I think depending on draft status he’ll be lucky to be a 2nd round rookie pick because of how thin his frame is. I think rookie picks 1.1-1.6 are going to be solid picksCameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:16 amWell, we're about 5 games in. So, approaching the halfway point of the college season for the class to look like this isn't very encouraging. I have Marquise Brown as my 1.01 right now, but he's no lock by any means.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:45 pm Way too early. There are some really good players coming out in 2019, but depth may not be there, but look at the mess this years draft is already causing, and we think we can predict 2 years out? He looks good, but trying to forecast a 1.01 2 years away as complete amateur scouts is kind of difficult. All I can say is, I hope he and more talents continue to go upwards and make the game better, but it's really tough to predict.
You're right though that a lot can change, but right now it's pretty bad. If I bought a ton of 2019 picks I'd be considering a Plan B.
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Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
I agree hasn’t been a crazy good class, but I do think there’s talent at the top with Harry, Brown, and Harmon. Edwards, if he declares, is an athletic freak and jump ball monster. I like Proche and Deebo Samuels as the slot receivers. I haven’t watched too much of Brown, but he’s obviously electric. I actually think this draft has good starting WR depth, but it’s about landing spotsCameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:50 amI definitely don't think he's a lock, but he's been the most impressive player of this class so far to me. Maybe it's one of the Ole Miss WR's in Brown or Metcalf, but overall I still don't see a deep or even top heavy class here.alewilliam789 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:34 amI mean Brown looks good for Oklahoma, but no way he’s 1.01. I think depending on draft status he’ll be lucky to be a 2nd round rookie pick because of how thin his frame is. I think rookie picks 1.1-1.6 are going to be solid picksCameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:16 am
Well, we're about 5 games in. So, approaching the halfway point of the college season for the class to look like this isn't very encouraging. I have Marquise Brown as my 1.01 right now, but he's no lock by any means.
You're right though that a lot can change, but right now it's pretty bad. If I bought a ton of 2019 picks I'd be considering a Plan B.
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Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
Well, I guess this one didn’t age well. Haha. Figured it was worth a bump though, since the first page doesn’t have nearly enough threads about who the 1.01 should be.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
When I saw the title I thought someone had just made this thread lol I like looking back though and seeing what a player has done or what people thought of them at one point. And now we have a Shenault thread. Nice bump
Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
While Shenault clearly isn’t the 1.01 this year, I’ve seen far worse takes projecting multiple years out. Shenault’s size and athleticism are appealing to me and I think people that are able to snatch him up in the early 2nd round of their fantasy drafts will be very glad his combine injury stalled a rise in his stock.
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
Obviously not 1.01, but was certainly a contender for it 2 years ago. Will be a late 1st - early 2nd in rookie drafts, and go anywhere from 7th -15th overall. Combine was disappointing but not entirely surprising given the injury and surgery, will be very interesting to see how he fairs in the NFL draft but think he's off the board by the middle of the 2nd round.
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Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
It'll be interesting to see his draft capital now. Many freaked out over the combine stuff, but he clearly wasn't at 100%. That said, he's raw in some key areas and will need the right system to develop as a WR.
Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
Imo his best bet isn’t to go to a system that will try to utilize him and develop him as a classic receiver ALA the Vikings with Patterson or rams and Austin. I think his best chance to succeed would be to wind up on a creative offense that would just use him as a general weaponCameron Giles wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:57 am It'll be interesting to see his draft capital now. Many freaked out over the combine stuff, but he clearly wasn't at 100%. That said, he's raw in some key areas and will need the right system to develop as a WR.
Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
I’m such a CU homer, it’s gonna be hard to pass on him in the league where I have 1.09. Not much chance of landing him in my other two leagues where my earliest pick is a late 2nd.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
The Vikings and Rams didn't really utilize Patterson and Tavon as classic WRs. In their rookie seasons, they moved them around a lot and just tried to get the ball in their hands in space. You're right though that a team will need to copy that early on with Shenault if he's not ready to be that type of WR yet.Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:36 pmImo his best bet isn’t to go to a system that will try to utilize him and develop him as a classic receiver ALA the Vikings with Patterson or rams and Austin. I think his best chance to succeed would be to wind up on a creative offense that would just use him as a general weaponCameron Giles wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:57 am It'll be interesting to see his draft capital now. Many freaked out over the combine stuff, but he clearly wasn't at 100%. That said, he's raw in some key areas and will need the right system to develop as a WR.
Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
Yeah If he winds up on a non creative team in gonna drop him, say the cowboys with I forgot the old packers coach. But if he goes to reich or Payton that I’d loveCameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:30 amThe Vikings and Rams didn't really utilize Patterson and Tavon as classic WRs. In their rookie seasons, they moved them around a lot and just tried to get the ball in their hands in space. You're right though that a team will need to copy that early on with Shenault if he's not ready to be that type of WR yet.Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:36 pmImo his best bet isn’t to go to a system that will try to utilize him and develop him as a classic receiver ALA the Vikings with Patterson or rams and Austin. I think his best chance to succeed would be to wind up on a creative offense that would just use him as a general weaponCameron Giles wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:57 am It'll be interesting to see his draft capital now. Many freaked out over the combine stuff, but he clearly wasn't at 100%. That said, he's raw in some key areas and will need the right system to develop as a WR.
Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
How do you guys feel about the landing spot? Chark emerged last year and Dede is still a solid option for them. Will Conley hold Shenault off for long?
Interesting note: Conley, Dede and Cole are all UFAs after 2020. Chark is singed through 2021.
JAX also drafted Colin Johnson (Texas) but I don't see him being a threat.
Interesting note: Conley, Dede and Cole are all UFAs after 2020. Chark is singed through 2021.
JAX also drafted Colin Johnson (Texas) but I don't see him being a threat.
Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
It makes me nervous, because Laviska is a unique talent and needs to utilized in a unique way, the problem is he could (and likely will) have a new coaching staff and front office next year who were not part of the team that drafted him. New GMs and coaches like to bring in their own guys, and there's no guarantee they like Laviska as much as the current staff or plan to use an offemse that utilizes him to his fullest. I was really hoping he would go somewhere with stability and security in the coaching staff with an innovative and creative offense; I don't see Jacksonville having either of these things. It's a real bummer, he was probably my favorite player in this class, but hopefully he can go on to succeed despite the disadvantageous landing spot. He's only an early-mid 2nd round target for me now, whereas he could have been WR3 in the class for me if he had gone somewhere like Baltimore or New Orleans.
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Re: Laviska Shenault Jr. — 2020 1.01?
Everyone talking scheme when I feel it's his health that'll be the biggest impact on his careers, the guy can't stay healthy at all.
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