Rishard vs Dez

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Rishard vs Dez

Postby Pullo Vision » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:29 pm

Both unceremoniously cut, both current FAs . Whether this season, next offseason, whatever, who gets signed first? Who's the better fantasy and NFL value?
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Re: Rishard vs Dez

Postby osubuckeyeman » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:10 pm

Depends on a lot of "unknowns" what teams get said players? Who is the supporting cast around them? Talent wise Rishard might be the better player but hold less value. The minute Dez gets signed his value is going to jump. I don't see that for Rishard. Dez holds more value as an asset. I think Rishard is the better player for next season and I think Dez has more value in the short term. I would pick up Dez before the trade deadline but as soon as the deadline passes Rishard moves up in value in my book. The better player moving forward is Rishard and the better value short term is Dez. If this is a question of who to grab off waivers for me it's Dez at this moment.

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Re: Rishard vs Dez

Postby gogobradyarm » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:53 pm

It's October and Dez hasn't signed anywhere. He isn't getting signed, people need to move on.
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Re: Rishard vs Dez

Postby ArrylT » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:35 pm

Where is the love for Eric Decker, Jeremy Maclin and/or Kendall Wright. ;)

I think Dez will sign if and when he is willing to accept what the teams want to offer - but that is assuming there are teams that still want to offer him a contract.
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Re: Rishard vs Dez

Postby ArrylT » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:36 pm

I will say this - I own 1 share of Dez Bryant - and I have made it openly known that he is available for a future 5th (IDP league so value to me is approx a 4th) and there are no takers.
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Re: Rishard vs Dez

Postby skip » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:58 pm

ArrylT wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:36 pm I will say this - I own 1 share of Dez Bryant - and I have made it openly known that he is available for a future 5th (IDP league so value to me is approx a 4th) and there are no takers.
I offered two third to the Dez owner in middle August. I'm glad he rejected. I'd consider paying one of them on the off chance that he wises up and accepts a veteran minimum deal, which is what he's worth. At this point, I think he needs to be humbled by going unsigned all of 2018 and come back next year.
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Re: Rishard vs Dez

Postby gogobradyarm » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:41 pm

He got traded twice this offseason/season for what equals a first. I don't get the love for the guy at this point in his career. Unsigned, hasn't really produced in years, and doesn't really have any good reason as to why he didn't produce.
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WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
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Re: Rishard vs Dez

Postby Pullo Vision » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:06 am

Gogo, he hasn't signed so far and wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't sign until the offseason, if at all. ArrylT, I'm focusing on these two WRs because they were both cut by their teams based, in part apparently, on their attitude/locker room effect. I'm curious if that will hinder either signing with another team either the rest of the year or next year.

I personally think Matthews is a better NFL player than Dez, but Bryant still seems to carry higher fantasy value.
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