Michael Thomas Thread: Still a WR1?

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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby Never Veto1 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:21 am

Dodged a bullet trading for him this offseason. Guy wanted more than I was willing to pay, and I told him there was too much risk for what he wanted. I was finally right on one of these.
12 Team 1QB PPR
8 Starters - QB 1, RB 2(4), WR 3(5), TE 1(3)

QB - Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, Kenny Pickett
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson, Kyren Williams, Travis Etienne, James Conner, Antonio Gibson, Chris Rodriguez
WR - Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Michael Pittman, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Jerry Jeudy, Rashod Bateman
TE - Sam Laporta, Kyle Pitts, Darren Waller, Isaiah Likely
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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby IWantToDieNasty » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:02 am

Can't decide if I should sell now while he still has some value, however low, or just hold and hope for the best.

Other MT owners, what would you be looking for to sell?
12 team, 1 QB, .5 PPR start 1 QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/5FLX

QB: Lamar, Cousins, Russ
RB: JT, Bijan, Gibbs, Kyren, Allgeier, Moss, Gus, Sean Tucker
WR: Aiyuk, Davante, Kupp, E Moore, Mims, Atwell, Iosavis
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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby murphysxm » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:03 am

CashBasko wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:02 am Can't decide if I should sell now while he still has some value, however low, or just hold and hope for the best.

Other MT owners, what would you be looking for to sell?
I only have one share, I am holding. His talent level makes it hard for me to sell low on him
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby Hankybro21 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:19 am

murphysxm wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:03 am
CashBasko wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:02 am Can't decide if I should sell now while he still has some value, however low, or just hold and hope for the best.

Other MT owners, what would you be looking for to sell?
I only have one share, I am holding. His talent level makes it hard for me to sell low on him
Same with me (except I have all the shares). No reason to really sell at this point. If you’ve held him this far you may as well keep holding unless you get a solid win now piece
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce

Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)

Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)

Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle

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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:21 am

Give me a late 1st and I'm out the door. ('23 1st preferably) He has the AB drama that I want nothing to do with. Yes he'll get his high scoring games in, but he'll also have his diva zeros to go with it. Someone else can have that headache.

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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby nathanq42 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:35 am

murphysxm wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:03 am
CashBasko wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:02 am Can't decide if I should sell now while he still has some value, however low, or just hold and hope for the best.

Other MT owners, what would you be looking for to sell?
I only have one share, I am holding. His talent level makes it hard for me to sell low on him
I felt the same about OBJ... worse place to be is the guy holding the bag...
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby Anteaters » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:42 am

CashBasko wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:02 am Can't decide if I should sell now while he still has some value, however low, or just hold and hope for the best.

Other MT owners, what would you be looking for to sell?
His price is only going to continue to decline. I don't foresee any sizeable comeback like AB. Unlike AB, MT is not just dealing with diva-itis but also a significant injury. I don't see this as a case where a change of scenery improves his stats.

I would make offers to other owners and put him on the trading block. I wouldn't ask for Tier1 talent at any position because that is almost certainly a no-go. I would take any 1st without a second's hesitation. I'd take any 2nd. Personally, at this point I'd take a 3rd and I think they're generally worthless. Naturally, you'll have to decide for yourself at what point the price is so low you'd rather hold him. I think a reasonable point is sell for a mid 2nd, hold for a 3rd.
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QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:43 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:21 am Give me a late 1st and I'm out the door. ('23 1st preferably) He has the AB drama that I want nothing to do with. Yes he'll get his high scoring games in, but he'll also have his diva zeros to go with it. Someone else can have that headache.
I don't think many people are offering 1s though. I wouldn't

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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby willistylz1979 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:27 pm

Guy in my league just picked up AP of the waivers, sent me over an offer from Michael Thomas straight up. I declined, and his response was I guess you don’t pay attention to the news, The saints had a trade lined up for him and MT vetoed it. I don’t see this anywhere, be it as it may I said I move him for a 2nd+ Lenny F, he said I was dreaming…
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QB- Stafford, Bryce
RB- Swift, Pierce, Hunt, CEH
WR- A.J Brown, Diggs, Godwin, Flowers, Pickens, Mims, Beckham, Demario Douglas, Shakir, Wicks
TE- Freiermuth, Kmet, Mayer
Picks - 1.04 2.04 3.04

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1-QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-3 TE, Flex RB/WR/TE
QB: Herbert, Tua
RB: Barkley, Dillon, Achane, Akers, D.Harris
WR: Godwin, Jefferson, DeVonta, C.Watson, Ridley, Jamo, Sutton, E.Moore, M.Williams, Gabe D
TE: Kelce, Mayer
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1-QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-3 TE, Flex RB/WR/TE
QB- Love, DJ
RB- Jacobs, J.Cook, Tank, Mattison
WR- Chase, Evans, Pittman, Bateman, Cooper, MT, Mike Williams, T.Burks, Skyy, G. Pickens, M.Wilson
TE- Laporta, Njoku
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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:40 pm

willistylz1979 wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:27 pm Guy in my league just picked up AP of the waivers, sent me over an offer from Michael Thomas straight up. I declined, and his response was I guess you don’t pay attention to the news, The saints had a trade lined up for him and MT vetoed it. I don’t see this anywhere, be it as it may I said I move him for a 2nd+ Lenny F, he said I was dreaming…
Just move on. MT for AP straight up is laughable.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06

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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby willistylz1979 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:53 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:40 pm
willistylz1979 wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:27 pm Guy in my league just picked up AP of the waivers, sent me over an offer from Michael Thomas straight up. I declined, and his response was I guess you don’t pay attention to the news, The saints had a trade lined up for him and MT vetoed it. I don’t see this anywhere, be it as it may I said I move him for a 2nd+ Lenny F, he said I was dreaming…
Just move on. MT for AP straight up is laughable.
Thanks, I knew I was wasn’t being unreasonable. The guy bought a terrible orphan and is kind of a dick anyways..
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RB- Swift, Pierce, Hunt, CEH
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TE- Freiermuth, Kmet, Mayer
Picks - 1.04 2.04 3.04

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QB: Herbert, Tua
RB: Barkley, Dillon, Achane, Akers, D.Harris
WR: Godwin, Jefferson, DeVonta, C.Watson, Ridley, Jamo, Sutton, E.Moore, M.Williams, Gabe D
TE: Kelce, Mayer
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10 Team MFL Classic League PPR
1-QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-3 TE, Flex RB/WR/TE
QB- Love, DJ
RB- Jacobs, J.Cook, Tank, Mattison
WR- Chase, Evans, Pittman, Bateman, Cooper, MT, Mike Williams, T.Burks, Skyy, G. Pickens, M.Wilson
TE- Laporta, Njoku
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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby Dynos » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:06 pm

title should be changed for #1 injured Dynasty asset
2019 Champion! 2022 Champion!

Team 1: Superflex, Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex WR/TE,1 Sflex

QB:P. Mahomes, R.Tannehill, J.Hurts
RB: E.Elliott,James Robinson, Chris Carson, L.Fournette, T.Etienne , Tony Pollard,hassan haskins,donta foreman, jaylen warren
WR: Justin Jefferson A.J Brown, M.Thomas, Marquise Brown, T.Lockett, skyy moore, romeo doubs, alec pierce Donovan Peoples-Jones, J.Palmer
TE: kyle pitts, juwan johnson,mckitty

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Team 2: Superflex, Start 1Qb, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex Wr/TE. 1 SFlex, 1 Flex RB/WR/TE
QB: J.Herbert, Z.Wilson, K.Cousins, K.Pickett,K.Mond
RB: J.Taylor, JK Dobbins, N.Harris, N.Hines, G.Edwards, James Cook, J.Ford, Dameon Pierce, P.Strong, D.Foreman (Jermaine Burton Devy)
WR: J.Chase,Garett Wilson , B.Aiyuk, C.Sutton, R.Bateman, G.Davis, M.Hardman,J.Palmer,
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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby Shcritters » Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:27 pm

Dynos wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:06 pm title should be changed for #1 injured Dynasty asset
To be fair, this thread IS 5.5 years old…. Every #1 dynasty asset drops off at some point…
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PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
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QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02, 2.06,
2025: 2 1sts, 2 2nds

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QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, 2.05, 2.06
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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby mild » Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:56 pm

Shcritters wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:27 pm
Dynos wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:06 pm title should be changed for #1 injured Dynasty asset
To be fair, this thread IS 5.5 years old…. Every #1 dynasty asset drops off at some point…
This is true... when you're Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset, it's only ever downward from there.

In this case... uhhh... a LOT more downward.

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Re: Michael Thomas: Arguably the #1 Dynasty Asset?

Postby gogobradyarm » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:31 pm

I'm not selling unless I get a 1st+. I have no reason to believe he won't come back healthy and put up high end WR2 or even WR1 numbers. It's not like the dude lost his leg. Yes, he is a headache as a personality, but the talent won't disappear.

The pendulum may swing far enough, where he is a must buy. His ADP may fall to 75-90 (or worse), but next year he'll be a very startable WR.
12 Team - PPR - 30man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton

2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 3x 1st
Champ: 2020, 2021
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