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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby Sriracha » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:10 pm

Depends on how well Hamilton steps into the Sanders role.

If he’s significantly worse this is likely a wash as more defensive attention on Sutton will be offset by more volume. If theyre similar, this will dampen his production until defenses respect Hamilton more

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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:49 pm

IZigUZag wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:10 pm Depends on how well Hamilton steps into the Sanders role.

If he’s significantly worse this is likely a wash as more defensive attention on Sutton will be offset by more volume. If theyre similar, this will dampen his production until defenses respect Hamilton more
Hamilton isn't good.
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby AlbertaPrime » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:33 am

I like Sutton a lot. Wish I had drafted him, but the cards just didn't fall in his favor to me.

I actually had the chance to trade for him around week 2 but ended up going with Christian Kirk instead. I just like the situation a little better for Kirk (this was pre-injury). I will say though, it's looking more and more likely that Denver could end up with one of these stud QBs in the 2020 class which would be great for Sutton.
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:54 am

I'd take Kirk (over Sutton) everyday of the week plus Saturday and Sunday as well.

Only thing Sutton has is a way cooler first name.

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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby murphysxm » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:58 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:54 am I'd take Kirk (over Sutton) everyday of the week plus Saturday and Sunday as well.

Only thing Sutton has is a way cooler first name.
What has Kirk actually done on the field to warrant this statement? Yes his situation is better, but Sutton is vastly out performing him.
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:04 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:54 am I'd take Kirk (over Sutton) everyday of the week plus Saturday and Sunday as well.

Only thing Sutton has is a way cooler first name.
Sutton is a WR 1 right now. So he has production, as well as a cool name.
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby TheNuts » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:59 am

Obj ahead of Sutton? I want no part of disinterested Obj
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:05 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:54 am I'd take Kirk (over Sutton) everyday of the week plus Saturday and Sunday as well.

Only thing Sutton has is a way cooler first name.
Well yeah, that and production.
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:23 pm

OBJ is EASILY above Sutton still.

Also Sutton is definitely above Kirk for me, that seems a little silly.
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby Servo » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:05 pm

Chose Sutton over Moore last year, and while I do like DJ Moore's play.....I'm loving what Sutton is doing, and hope he keeps it up.

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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby trc » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:37 pm

hoos89 wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:05 am
Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:54 am I'd take Kirk (over Sutton) everyday of the week plus Saturday and Sunday as well.

Only thing Sutton has is a way cooler first name.
Well yeah, that and production.
The only thing Sutton has going over Kirk is TD's (at least on a PPG view).
TD's are important but also fluky.

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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:08 pm

trc wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:37 pm
The only thing Sutton has going over Kirk is TD's (at least on a PPG view).
TD's are important but also fluky.
And receptions (36 to 24)
And yards (564 to 242)

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Sutton: 78/1,268/7

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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:30 pm

trc wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:37 pm
hoos89 wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:05 am
Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:54 am I'd take Kirk (over Sutton) everyday of the week plus Saturday and Sunday as well.

Only thing Sutton has is a way cooler first name.
Well yeah, that and production.
The only thing Sutton has going over Kirk is TD's (at least on a PPG view).
TD's are important but also fluky.
TDs, staying healthy, and about 33% more yards per game. But yeah other than that, nothing.

Also...Sutton 5" taller than Kirk. I think it's reasonable to expect Sutton to get more red zone targets.
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby MrUbuto » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:33 pm

I really struggle the fantasy communities need to anoint kirk as anything. He has A LOT of competition around him. Cardinals draft 3 wrs last draft and could easily add 1 or 2 more. The rookie QB looks good but is still a rookie. Sophomore slumps are very real.

I like the guy but people talk like he is already a wr2
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Re: Let's talk about Courtland Sutton

Postby AussieMate » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:49 pm

trc wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:37 pm
hoos89 wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:05 am
Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:54 am I'd take Kirk (over Sutton) everyday of the week plus Saturday and Sunday as well.

Only thing Sutton has is a way cooler first name.
Well yeah, that and production.
The only thing Sutton has going over Kirk is TD's (at least on a PPG view).
TD's are important but also fluky.
Lol


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