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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:24 am

This board is turning into a bunch of charlatan's. :lol:
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby dlf_mikeh » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:27 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:24 am
This board is turning into a bunch of charlatan's. :lol:
It's more exciting that way. Opens up for scrutiny and discussion.
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby dynastyninja » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:18 am

dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:27 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:24 am
This board is turning into a bunch of charlatan's. :lol:
It's more exciting that way. Opens up for scrutiny and discussion.
It's not, though

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Ray Finkle » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:31 am

Oh yeah, well I thought Indianapolis should’ve drafted Ryan Leaf.

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby dlf_mikeh » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:55 am

dynastyninja wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:18 am
dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:27 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:24 am
This board is turning into a bunch of charlatan's. :lol:
It's more exciting that way. Opens up for scrutiny and discussion.
It's not, though
I have no problem if someone wants to stake a claim. If they merely give an opinion I'll just let them have it and move on. If they stake a claim then that leaves open the door for more questioning and discussion. Putting yourself out there is a challenge and it should be met with encouragement and enthusiasm (imo, obviously).

Johnny B Goode has done just that and now I'm intrigued to see what he has to offer. I'd love to see this spreadsheet!
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:26 am

dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am
Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:17 am
was offered 1.10 for him. not sure I want that deal. I dont really like any wrs better than him at that spot
And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
I ultimately did trade him away. My analysis of the spreadsheet has evolved a lot, since I only created it about a year ago (April 9, 2019 was when I first started diving into the concept)

I can PM you the discussion on the spreadsheet. Not worth rehashing everything here, but its evolved quite a bit over time and this weekend I was able to get it to spit out actual numbers for each player.

For example: Anthony Miller had a 25% chance of hitting and a 79% chance at not hitting
A hit is defined as having at least 1 fantasy season in the top 24 for PPR.

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QB: Murray, Lock, Stidham
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mixon, J. Taylor (R), Dobbins (R), Henderson, R. Anderson,
WR: T. Hill, Godwin, Kupp, Sutton, Diggs, Gallup, P. Williams, Isabella, JJAW, Miller
TE: Engram, Hockenson, I Thomas, Warring
K: Tucker
TD: PIT
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QB: Darnold, Bridgewater, Stidham (TX)
RB: Sanders, Hunt, Jackson, Ballage, Murray, Samuels, B Hill, Henderson (TX), Ozigbo (TX), Gaskin (TX)
WR: Diggs, Gallup, Kupp, Sutton, Lazard, Isabella (TX), P. Williams (TX), JJAW (TX), Doss (TX), S. Miller (TX)
TE: Rudolph, Graham, Sternberger (TX)
K:
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:40 am

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For example: Anthony Miller had a 25% chance of hitting and a 79% chance at not hitting
A hit is defined as having at least 1 fantasy season in the top 24 for PPR.
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby skinfanjon » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am

dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am
Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:17 am
was offered 1.10 for him. not sure I want that deal. I dont really like any wrs better than him at that spot
And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:11 pm

skinfanjon wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am
dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am
Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:17 am
was offered 1.10 for him. not sure I want that deal. I dont really like any wrs better than him at that spot
And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....
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QB: Murray, Lock, Stidham
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mixon, J. Taylor (R), Dobbins (R), Henderson, R. Anderson,
WR: T. Hill, Godwin, Kupp, Sutton, Diggs, Gallup, P. Williams, Isabella, JJAW, Miller
TE: Engram, Hockenson, I Thomas, Warring
K: Tucker
TD: PIT
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QB: Darnold, Bridgewater, Stidham (TX)
RB: Sanders, Hunt, Jackson, Ballage, Murray, Samuels, B Hill, Henderson (TX), Ozigbo (TX), Gaskin (TX)
WR: Diggs, Gallup, Kupp, Sutton, Lazard, Isabella (TX), P. Williams (TX), JJAW (TX), Doss (TX), S. Miller (TX)
TE: Rudolph, Graham, Sternberger (TX)
K:
DEF: LAR
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby dlf_mikeh » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:00 pm

Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:26 am
dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am
Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL
You used to like Miller. What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
I ultimately did trade him away. My analysis of the spreadsheet has evolved a lot, since I only created it about a year ago (April 9, 2019 was when I first started diving into the concept)

I can PM you the discussion on the spreadsheet. Not worth rehashing everything here, but its evolved quite a bit over time and this weekend I was able to get it to spit out actual numbers for each player.

For example: Anthony Miller had a 25% chance of hitting and a 79% chance at not hitting
A hit is defined as having at least 1 fantasy season in the top 24 for PPR.

This years draft class is incomplete until the draft is completed
I said it in private but I'll put it here. I hate statistical analysis for RBs but I love it for WRs. I love the work you've put into this and I'm excited to see how 2020 pans out. When do you think you'll have it filled in?
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Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am
Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.
lol well I think there's some merit to an analytical approach when it comes to WRs. Can we at least see where 2020 goes before we get out some pitch forks? :P
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:37 pm

dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:00 pm
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:26 am
dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am

You used to like Miller. What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
I ultimately did trade him away. My analysis of the spreadsheet has evolved a lot, since I only created it about a year ago (April 9, 2019 was when I first started diving into the concept)

I can PM you the discussion on the spreadsheet. Not worth rehashing everything here, but its evolved quite a bit over time and this weekend I was able to get it to spit out actual numbers for each player.

For example: Anthony Miller had a 25% chance of hitting and a 79% chance at not hitting
A hit is defined as having at least 1 fantasy season in the top 24 for PPR.

This years draft class is incomplete until the draft is completed
I said it in private but I'll put it here. I hate statistical analysis for RBs but I love it for WRs. I love the work you've put into this and I'm excited to see how 2020 pans out. When do you think you'll have it filled in?
As soon as the draft is done I'll have it filled in. Let's be honest though, I'll be updating it nightly during the draft process. :lol:

The link should take you to the most updated copy always
12 team PPR
QB: Murray, Lock, Stidham
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mixon, J. Taylor (R), Dobbins (R), Henderson, R. Anderson,
WR: T. Hill, Godwin, Kupp, Sutton, Diggs, Gallup, P. Williams, Isabella, JJAW, Miller
TE: Engram, Hockenson, I Thomas, Warring
K: Tucker
TD: PIT
Picks: 2021 1, 2021 2, 2022 1, 2022 2, 2022 3

12 team PPR
QB: Darnold, Bridgewater, Stidham (TX)
RB: Sanders, Hunt, Jackson, Ballage, Murray, Samuels, B Hill, Henderson (TX), Ozigbo (TX), Gaskin (TX)
WR: Diggs, Gallup, Kupp, Sutton, Lazard, Isabella (TX), P. Williams (TX), JJAW (TX), Doss (TX), S. Miller (TX)
TE: Rudolph, Graham, Sternberger (TX)
K:
DEF: LAR
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Cameron Giles » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:08 pm

Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am
Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby CGW » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:16 pm

This is going to be a great thread in 5 years. Not the Anthony Miller part, just the rest of it.
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25 Roster Spots
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Cousins, Darnold, Trubisky
RB | Mixon, Barber, R. Freeman, Singletary, Ballage, D. Thompson, Gaskin
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Cooper, Washington, D. Johnson, Conley, Amendola, A. Miller
TE | Herndon, Andrews, Everett, Sternberger
2020 | 1.03, 5.09
2021 | 1st, 1st, 3rd

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25 Roster Spots
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Rodgers, Murray, Minshew
RB | Chubb, Montgomery, Guice, Singletary, Ballage, Edmonds, Murray, R. Jones, Dobbins, Swift
WR | Golladay, Godwin, Kirk, M. Brown, Arcega-Whiteside, Renfrow, Slayton, Reynolds, D. Johnson, Aiyuk
TE | Henry, Herndon, Andrews, Everett

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 pm

skinfanjon wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am
dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am
Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:17 am
was offered 1.10 for him. not sure I want that deal. I dont really like any wrs better than him at that spot
And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....
Can you provide reference?
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:56 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 pm
skinfanjon wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am
dlf_mikeh wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am

In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:

And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....
Can you provide reference?
Actually, AJB was my wr1 and Harry was my WR2. I was very high on JJAW and still am. Isabella I was excited about and did draft him everywhere I could. Jury is still out but it doesnt look good. I'm confident in my WR analysis in the end. Skinfanjon wants to troll/hate, and unfortunately that's all he has to offer. Other sites and other posters have already caught onto that. I'm flattered he has chosen me as his target, I truly am
12 team PPR
QB: Murray, Lock, Stidham
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mixon, J. Taylor (R), Dobbins (R), Henderson, R. Anderson,
WR: T. Hill, Godwin, Kupp, Sutton, Diggs, Gallup, P. Williams, Isabella, JJAW, Miller
TE: Engram, Hockenson, I Thomas, Warring
K: Tucker
TD: PIT
Picks: 2021 1, 2021 2, 2022 1, 2022 2, 2022 3

12 team PPR
QB: Darnold, Bridgewater, Stidham (TX)
RB: Sanders, Hunt, Jackson, Ballage, Murray, Samuels, B Hill, Henderson (TX), Ozigbo (TX), Gaskin (TX)
WR: Diggs, Gallup, Kupp, Sutton, Lazard, Isabella (TX), P. Williams (TX), JJAW (TX), Doss (TX), S. Miller (TX)
TE: Rudolph, Graham, Sternberger (TX)
K:
DEF: LAR
Picks: 1.1, 1.3, 2.4, 5.7, 2021 1, 2021 1, 2021 2, 2021 2, 2021 4, 2021 5


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