John Ross: reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.

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Re: John Ross

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:23 am

He's a must-start right now. Ride the wave while it's there. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Green returns.

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Re: John Ross

Postby ericanadian » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:15 pm

Sounds like Green thought his initial timetable was unreasonable, so Ross may get a bit more run than initially anticipated.
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Re: John Ross

Postby Matt1975 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:28 pm

I can see starting him. My issue is I have Tyler Boyd as well. I can’t see starting both or starting Ross over Boyd. Maybe I am wrong.

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Re: John Ross

Postby Sriracha » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:56 pm

Matt1975 wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:28 pm I can see starting him. My issue is I have Tyler Boyd as well. I can’t see starting both or starting Ross over Boyd. Maybe I am wrong.
Why not? The CIN defense sucks caw caw which means a lot of postiitve game script and passing volume to be divied up towards the top receivers on that offense (Boyd, Ross).

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Re: John Ross

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:14 am

There's a guy hardcore bragging in redraft for owning the top 4 WR and has already won the league championship. Ross, Watkins, Sanders and Mclaurin. Should I tell him or just let him learn about regression for himself?

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Re: John Ross

Postby steelman » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:30 am

Matt1975 wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:28 pm I can see starting him. My issue is I have Tyler Boyd as well. I can’t see starting both or starting Ross over Boyd. Maybe I am wrong.
I have the same issue, expect this past week I did start Ross over Boyd, just due to his big play ability. It worked out, although both had a big week. I'm going to stick with Ross for now

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Re: John Ross

Postby Shcritters » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:38 am

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:14 am There's a guy hardcore bragging in redraft for owning the top 4 WR and has already won the league championship. Ross, Watkins, Sanders and Mclaurin. Should I tell him or just let him learn about regression for himself?
Don't tell him, trade for his future 1st at a devalued cost! Tell him since he's going to have the 1.12 (assume 12 team league) that you should swap firsts and he should pay you more for yours!
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WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
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WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
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QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
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2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, 2.05, 2.06
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Re: John Ross

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:41 pm

Shcritters wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:38 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:14 am There's a guy hardcore bragging in redraft for owning the top 4 WR and has already won the league championship. Ross, Watkins, Sanders and Mclaurin. Should I tell him or just let him learn about regression for himself?
Don't tell him, trade for his future 1st at a devalued cost! Tell him since he's going to have the 1.12 (assume 12 team league) that you should swap firsts and he should pay you more for yours!
Lol good thinking but its redraft. I shouldn't be allowed to talk about that at all haha

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Re: John Ross

Postby hoos89 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:21 pm

So...where do people value Ross right now? 2nd?
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Re: John Ross

Postby Matt1975 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:50 pm

If he keeps this up selling for a 2nd is a loss, but I don’t think anyone is paying a 2nd. I think he is a hold.

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Re: John Ross

Postby RookieFever » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:53 pm

I would rather hold then sell for a 2nd. Problem is nobody in my leagues have been willing to part with a 1st. I'll keep holding and hope he keeps it up.

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Re: John Ross

Postby hoos89 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:16 pm

Matt1975 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:50 pm If he keeps this up selling for a 2nd is a loss, but I don’t think anyone is paying a 2nd. I think he is a hold.
You might not be able to get a 2nd for him straight up, but I bet you could get implied value of a 2nd for him in a bigger deal. I definitely wouldn't give up a 1st for him though.
RookieFever wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:53 pm I would rather hold then sell for a 2nd. Problem is nobody in my leagues have been willing to part with a 1st. I'll keep holding and hope he keeps it up.
The gap in value between a 1st and a 2nd is huge though, especially this early in the season when it's not clear where picks will end up. He's got to show something after AJG comes back to carry a 2020 1st value.
Team 1: 2012-2016
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Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
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Re: John Ross

Postby Shcritters » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:05 pm

I’m scared that when AJGreen comes back either he or Boyd is going to disappear. And unfortunately my bet is on him disappearing rather than Boyd.
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QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ

SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02, 2.06,
2025: 2 1sts, 2 2nds

SafeLeague #2
QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, 2.05, 2.06
2025: 1 1st, 1 2nd

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Re: John Ross

Postby ericanadian » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:53 pm

Shcritters wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:05 pm I’m scared that when AJGreen comes back either he or Boyd is going to disappear. And unfortunately my bet is on him disappearing rather than Boyd.
He’ll be relegated to the old Marvin Jones role. Occasional productive game, but won’t produce at this clip anymore. The good news is that the AJ that Jones dealt is quite a bit better than the current incarnation.
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Re: John Ross

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:02 pm

Shcritters wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:05 pm I’m scared that when AJGreen comes back either he or Boyd is going to disappear. And unfortunately my bet is on him disappearing rather than Boyd.
Boyd will be impacted more. Ross is about big plays and he had a lot of TDS last year ... his progression isn’t that big of a surprise. He’s a hit and miss guy who’s happened to hit both games so far.


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