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Re: Bridgewater

Postby slaughterrt » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:15 pm

Shurmur takes the HC job in Arizona and takes Teddy with him.

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Re: Bridgewater

Postby Friction » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:26 pm

Keenum becomes Cassel 2.0, Teddy goes to AZ as stated above and Shaun Hill is the Queens starter after their SB run this year. The curse continues, though Atlanta bucked the trend a little.
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby ImaRounder » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:27 pm

slaughterrt wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:15 pm
Shurmur takes the HC job in Arizona and takes Teddy with him.
Dang, I like this stab.

Kinda how I think Eli end up in Jax with Coughlin.

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Re: Bridgewater

Postby Pac_Eddy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:23 pm

ericanadian wrote:
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Sounds like Shurmur is in pretty high demand to take a head coaching job somewhere. Probably not a good thing for whichever QB ends up in Minnesota next year. I hate Shurmur's offense, but it's been extremely effective this season.
Funny. You hate his offense, but it's effective. What don't you like about it?
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:48 am

You would need a crystal ball to figure out what MN will do with its QBs this offseason

Option 1 (what I want to see as a Vikings fan)- They keep Case as their starter, sign Teddy (affordably) as the backup with upside, and release Bradford who is basically just an injury prone version of Case

Option 2- Teddy sings somewhere as a starter, the Cardinals is as good a guess as anywhere, Vikings hold Case and Bradford

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4- Vikings stupidly trade Case thinking its a sell high time on him and roll with Teddy

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Re: Bridgewater

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:50 am

Pac_Eddy wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:23 pm
ericanadian wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:53 pm
Sounds like Shurmur is in pretty high demand to take a head coaching job somewhere. Probably not a good thing for whichever QB ends up in Minnesota next year. I hate Shurmur's offense, but it's been extremely effective this season.
Funny. You hate his offense, but it's effective. What don't you like about it?
Probably because it's not flashy or producing big numbers (fantasy or NFL). Vikings offense is the simply 'Don't make any mistakes, no turnovers, score 17ish points a game, and let your defense do the work'

Shurmer with that defense, has no problem ever punting the ball because he knows they'll probably get it back in 3-6 plays with comparable field position and a fresh set of downs
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:21 am

hockeyBjj wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:50 am
Pac_Eddy wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:23 pm
ericanadian wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:53 pm
Sounds like Shurmur is in pretty high demand to take a head coaching job somewhere. Probably not a good thing for whichever QB ends up in Minnesota next year. I hate Shurmur's offense, but it's been extremely effective this season.
Funny. You hate his offense, but it's effective. What don't you like about it?
Probably because it's not flashy or producing big numbers (fantasy or NFL). Vikings offense is the simply 'Don't make any mistakes, no turnovers, score 17ish points a game, and let your defense do the work'

Shurmer with that defense, has no problem ever punting the ball because he knows they'll probably get it back in 3-6 plays with comparable field position and a fresh set of downs
That's an accurate description of the current team and I get your view. But it doesn't mean they can't put their foot on the gas if they need to, or if he has a QB with a better deep ball.

What I do like about it is the creativity. They're excellent on third downs & red zone at getting playmakers open. They've been fantastic on third downs & in the red zone.

But you're right. I guarantee one of the top goals right now is to not turn the ball over at the expense of big plays.
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby JFever » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:21 am

Hoc,
"Probably because it's not flashy or producing big numbers (fantasy or NFL). Vikings offense is the simply 'Don't make any mistakes, no turnovers, score 17ish points a game, and let your defense do the work'"

that statement makes it seem that you haven't watched too many Vikings games. 17 points a game... hmmm. No big numbers? fantasy or NFL ? huh? :wtf:

Are you serious?
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby clarion contrarion » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:00 pm

scaredy cat ball usually won't win a super bowl after watching the cowher years that became very apparent . Vikes defense is terrific but if they get down 10 its time to start the team bus and book a tee time. I have heard no one mention it but vikes went 3-2 vs playoff teams and 1 win was against saints before they got cooking. I think there is a distinct possibility they are way over rated and keenum wilts in the bright lights . If philly loses in 2nd round and vikes host their chances go way up but I would not be thrilled backing CK on the road .
Teddy or bradford neither are serious options as super bowl winning type qbs for various reasons . I could see vikes go in a complete different direction at qb with a play off melt down.
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby JFever » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:16 pm

Didn't the vikings offense finish the reg season as a top 9-10 offense in the league? I think between McKinnon and Murray they rushed for 1400-1500 yds. D.Cook was off to a great start as well . If I recall, vikes had a wr in the top 5. I also think their TE was top 5... I'd dare to say they had multiple offensively relevent offensive players for fantasy purposes. That is a much more prolific offense than the previous posters are eluding to. Simple as that. I'll add that if C.Keenum had any other "name", the doubters would have a different take. Sad. His play should have squashed those opinions. Reminds me of how probowlers are named due to name recognition rather than their performance. Smh.
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby JFever » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:21 pm

I don't believe the Vikings play scared at all. I frankly find that take to be silly. It's Again as if the actual games werent watched. 3-2 vs playoff teams. Yes. Are we going to downplay their win vs LA Rams and Atlanta as well? Howd Vikings offense fo vs those teams? They played NO early n beat them and that can be looked past because NO improved since then. Hmm kay. They played Pit n lost at their place... Look at details of that loss. That game absolutely should have been won vs the Steelers. They lost at Carolina. Two long runs accounted for 120 yds. Kinda out of character and fluky for that def don't ya think? Unreal. Fun for some to spin stats. Defense and overall team strength / balance plus coaching wins championships.
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby Blackout » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:36 pm

Love the idea of Arizona landing spot for teddyb_h2o. Since Jimmy G is starting and Brady goes on, i don't wait for anything special from him however. What i've seen on the field is too much conservative.
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby ericanadian » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:39 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:23 pm
ericanadian wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:53 pm
Sounds like Shurmur is in pretty high demand to take a head coaching job somewhere. Probably not a good thing for whichever QB ends up in Minnesota next year. I hate Shurmur's offense, but it's been extremely effective this season.
Funny. You hate his offense, but it's effective. What don't you like about it?
It's intensely low risk and they're likely to run into trouble if their defense misses a beat. They keep it to short, high percentage throws just as they did with Bradford and rely on big plays after the catch to put up points. Their defense may be enough given the lack of dominant teams in the NFC, but I still have no faith in Keenum or Murray.
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby JFever » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:08 am

"lack of dominant teams in the NFC"?

NFC - Minnesota, Phili, N.O., Carolina, L.A., Atlanta
AFC - N.E., Pit, KC, Jack, Ten, Buf

Which of the two divisions has fewer "dominant" teams?
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Re: Bridgewater

Postby IBall2 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:18 am

clarion contrarion wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:00 pm
scaredy cat ball usually won't win a super bowl after watching the cowher years that became very apparent . Vikes defense is terrific but if they get down 10 its time to start the team bus and book a tee time. I have heard no one mention it but vikes went 3-2 vs playoff teams and 1 win was against saints before they got cooking. I think there is a distinct possibility they are way over rated and keenum wilts in the bright lights . If philly loses in 2nd round and vikes host their chances go way up but I would not be thrilled backing CK on the road .
Teddy or bradford neither are serious options as super bowl winning type qbs for various reasons . I could see vikes go in a complete different direction at qb with a play off melt down.
In Week 15 against the Panther, the Vikings entered the 4th quarter down by 11 points and tied it up with 3 minutes to go in the game. I wouldn't count them out when down by 10.

Edit: also since you're talking about how they beat a saints team that wasn't in full swing yet, the Vikings should have beat the Lions in week 4 if it wasn't for Dalvin Cook fumbling on his own 30 yard line when he tore his ACL to give the Lions great field position and the go ahead TD.

This was also around the time when the Vikings didn't know who was starting at QB because Bradford thought he could come back from injury so Case wasn't 100% with the 1st team offense. You could say Case wasn't 'in full swing yet' with at the time of the Pittsburgh and Detroit losses early in the season.


And my last note: Pittsburgh went 3-2 against playoff teams this year as well.

Just trying to play devils advocate here


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