Ingram Suspension

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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Tue May 08, 2018 3:53 pm

Sell high time for Kamara?

Love having him on my team, but I can't imagine his value getting any higher.

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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby ninotoreS » Tue May 08, 2018 3:54 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:53 pm
Sell high time for Kamara?

Love having him on my team, but I can't imagine his value getting any higher.
There's some logic to this. Kamara right now could be CJ Spiller circa post-2012 season.
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Tue May 08, 2018 3:57 pm

ninotoreS wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:54 pm
Forza_Azzurri wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:53 pm
Sell high time for Kamara?

Love having him on my team, but I can't imagine his value getting any higher.
There's some logic to this. Kamara right now could be CJ Spiller circa post-2012 season.
Too soon ... too soon. :oops: :lol: :oops:

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|QB| J. Allen, D. Lock
|RB| A. Kamara, J. Jacobs, J. Mixon
|WR| C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, D.K. Metcalf, M. Gallup, J. Ross
|TE| M. Gesicki
|K| G. Zuerlein
|DT| S. Richardson, T. Bryan, T. Hill (taxi)
|DE| D. Lawrence, C. Young, Q. Williams
|LB| B. Wagner, L. Vander Esch, D. Trevathan, I. Simmons
|CB| S. Gilmore, D. Trufant, G. Conley, B. Jones
|S| M. Fitzpatrick, T. Walker, X. Woods, E. Murray
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby bucsrule » Tue May 08, 2018 4:04 pm

I have both Ingram and Kamara on my roster, as well as Melvin Gordon, all of whom are rostered weekly on my team. My WRs are very shallow so this could hurt me.
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby sugbear65 » Tue May 08, 2018 5:27 pm

Bring back AP! Lol. But any chance of them releasing him? Maybe bringing in a Demarco or something?

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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby Crwdstunna » Tue May 08, 2018 6:57 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:53 pm
Sell high time for Kamara?

Love having him on my team, but I can't imagine his value getting any higher.
Let's see how high his value creeps but you might be right. Time will tell here.
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:38 pm

sugbear65 wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 5:27 pm
Bring back AP! Lol. But any chance of them releasing him? Maybe bringing in a Demarco or something?
I doubt that they release him. Then again, Ingram and Payton have had some bumps in the road so you never know. I could definitely see a guy like D.Murray come in, give Kamara some breathers.

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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby ninotoreS » Tue May 08, 2018 9:46 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:57 pm
ninotoreS wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:54 pm
Forza_Azzurri wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:53 pm
Sell high time for Kamara?

Love having him on my team, but I can't imagine his value getting any higher.
There's some logic to this. Kamara right now could be CJ Spiller circa post-2012 season.
Too soon ... too soon. :oops: :lol: :oops:
You and me both, brother.

The haul I could've gotten for Spiller if only I had the balls to sell him... smh
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed May 09, 2018 7:40 am

Johnny Canuck wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 2:00 pm
Jason3123 wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 1:53 pm
4 games, with a week 6 bye. Means you can't even start him until week 7. Basically half your fantasy season. Will be 29 in December.

Au revoir Mark Ingram.
Yep, the sell high window has closed. His value should take a hit for sure. Hopefully a massive one and I can buy him cheap for my fantasy playoffs next season lol
I'd only consider selling next offseason. He's shown an ability to be a bellcow 3 down back. Let's see what that vets him in free agency next year. Some teams didn't address their RB position in the draft or FA, or only papered it over. Imagine him in Carolina or Philly. That'd be when to consider selling high. Then again, that's when contenders will be buying.
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby DLF_Pierson » Wed May 09, 2018 8:47 am

reports indicate he toke something neither performance enhancing or illegal and was given permission to take it. He is expected to appeal
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby Valhalla » Wed May 09, 2018 8:53 am

pierson242 wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 8:47 am
reports indicate he toke something neither performance enhancing or illegal and was given permission to take it. He is expected to appeal
What's he toking now?

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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby Phaded » Wed May 09, 2018 10:02 am

Appeal denied.
lol That was fast.

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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby grandmabetty » Wed May 09, 2018 10:45 am

question for you guys. My league is empire PPR 10 man league where we sign players to contracts. Each player can be signed to only 2 contracts and franchised twice but not twice in a row. Franchising costs double the normal pay for a 1 yr contract on an RB. Ingram is on my team (along with Kamera) and is up for a new contract, what would be his 2nd and final contract with me. What should I sign him to? I was considering signing him to a 2 year deal and then I would give him up at age 31. Before this suspension I thought I could count on him for a top 10 RB season this year and then next year who knows with him likely headed to another team but I figured he would still hold value enough that I wouldn't want to lose ownership of him. Hence the 2 year contract. Now idk what to sign him to. Thoughts?
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed May 09, 2018 10:54 am

pierson242 wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 8:47 am
reports indicate he toke something neither performance enhancing or illegal and was given permission to take it. He is expected to appeal
So, something he had a therapeutic use exemption for? Or didn't have the correct paperwork for TUE but a drug that could fall under that, but since no paperwork, suspension?

Sounds like the shitshow UFC had a while back with aging fighters getting prescriptions for testosterone replacement therapy from doctors due to low T levels, and them coming back out looking 10 years younger as they all cranked the dose to the max allowed under the exemption

Well, except Vitor Belfort. He had the T levels of an actual Tyrnasourus Rex lol
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Re: Ingram Suspension

Postby Generic Username » Wed May 09, 2018 11:00 am

What I just read on ESPN seems lacking in full detail...he not only lost his appeal, but through arbitration. That is normally a very binding outcome with little option for remedy. Such a process, I would have to assume, would be a little more lengthy and news of suspension prior to appeal getting leaked. The CBA certainly provided for this route, but I wonder why it was chosen (I've not heard any of the other suspensions having gone to arbitration)

Curious course of action if voluntary


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