Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
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Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Instead of talking about all the positives and building up the hype, let's try to derail some hype trains in this thread.
Top 8 rookie RB's are listed below in NFL draft order - which ones you staying away from at all costs, even if they fell to you in the draft well past their ADP? What about them is scaring them away from you? Talent? Bad offense for RB's? Muddy backfield/uncertain role? Bad measurables? JAG tape? Durability/other issues that will limit usage? Any other random reasons even though we ultimately have no idea what we're talking about? (Or, if you're feeling like Mr. Rogers, you can strongly advocate that you would feel very good about leaving the draft with every single one of them.)
Saquon Barkley
Rashaad Penny
Sony Michel
Nick Chubb
Ronald Jones
Kerryon Johnson
Derrius Guice
Royce Freeman
Top 8 rookie RB's are listed below in NFL draft order - which ones you staying away from at all costs, even if they fell to you in the draft well past their ADP? What about them is scaring them away from you? Talent? Bad offense for RB's? Muddy backfield/uncertain role? Bad measurables? JAG tape? Durability/other issues that will limit usage? Any other random reasons even though we ultimately have no idea what we're talking about? (Or, if you're feeling like Mr. Rogers, you can strongly advocate that you would feel very good about leaving the draft with every single one of them.)
Saquon Barkley
Rashaad Penny
Sony Michel
Nick Chubb
Ronald Jones
Kerryon Johnson
Derrius Guice
Royce Freeman
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)
QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)
QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Ronald Jones is my least favorite of the top 8, sometimes he had poor vision but I don't think it was terrible enough to completely write him off. But I'd still draft him if he fell around 1.10 or later.
So, sorry, but there are none that I wouldn't draft at all.
So, sorry, but there are none that I wouldn't draft at all.
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Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
None of them are on my do not draft list and I would take any of them if they fell to me at the right 1st round pick.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
I will never draft Ronald Jones and/or Kerryon Johnson in the top 12 picks
Superflex tight-end premium team:
Qb: Kyler Murray, Dak Presscott, Sam Darnold,
Rb: Derrick Henry, Latavius Murray, Darrell Henderson, Dexter Williams, Brian Hill
Wr: Chris Godwin, Stefon Diggs, Courtland Sutton, DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Tre'Quan Smith, Daesean Hamilton, Josh Reynolds, Trey Quin, Snead,
Te: TJ Hockensen, Gesicki, Hurst
1 2020 first, 1 2020 2nd, 1 2020 3rd, 1 2020 4th
Devy superflex
Qb: Cousins, Prescott, Lamar Jackson
Rb: Marlon Mack, Tevin Coleman, Rex Burkhead,, Mcguire, Edwards
Wr: Antonio Brown, Amari Cooper, Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, Tre'quan Smith, John Brown, Carlos Henderson, Josh Malone, Ryan Switzer, Taywan Taylor, Leonte Carroo, Antonio Callaway
Te: David Njoku, O.J. Howard, Mark Andrews,
devy: Deondre Francois, Cam Akers, Bryce Love, Myles Gaskin, Sewo Olonilua, Jalen Reagor, Peoples-Jones, Noah Fant
Qb: Kyler Murray, Dak Presscott, Sam Darnold,
Rb: Derrick Henry, Latavius Murray, Darrell Henderson, Dexter Williams, Brian Hill
Wr: Chris Godwin, Stefon Diggs, Courtland Sutton, DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Tre'Quan Smith, Daesean Hamilton, Josh Reynolds, Trey Quin, Snead,
Te: TJ Hockensen, Gesicki, Hurst
1 2020 first, 1 2020 2nd, 1 2020 3rd, 1 2020 4th
Devy superflex
Qb: Cousins, Prescott, Lamar Jackson
Rb: Marlon Mack, Tevin Coleman, Rex Burkhead,, Mcguire, Edwards
Wr: Antonio Brown, Amari Cooper, Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, Tre'quan Smith, John Brown, Carlos Henderson, Josh Malone, Ryan Switzer, Taywan Taylor, Leonte Carroo, Antonio Callaway
Te: David Njoku, O.J. Howard, Mark Andrews,
devy: Deondre Francois, Cam Akers, Bryce Love, Myles Gaskin, Sewo Olonilua, Jalen Reagor, Peoples-Jones, Noah Fant
Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Hmm two people beat me to Ronald jones. I’ve been wrong before but I just wasn’t blown away by his tape. For some reason I envision him becoming a nice nfl player but never a stud fantasy back. Anyways I don’t pick til 2.12 so I don’t have to worry about any of these guys
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Someone mentioned above - depends on where you're taking the player. Jones name has beem brought up twice. But Id be happy to take him in the late 1st based more on opportunity than talent. So there needs to be context with the question. With my 1.02, RoJo isnt isnt in my mind but Guice and Penny are.
Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Was not a massive Rojo fan before the draft. Thought he got bottled up at line of scrimmage too much. Hes electric once hes at the 2nd level. Question is how often will that be?
But to me the biggest JAG on this list is Freeman. He looks like he runs with cement blocks on his feet. Not a fan.
But to me the biggest JAG on this list is Freeman. He looks like he runs with cement blocks on his feet. Not a fan.
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Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
I'd rather trade out of the first than take Johnson or Freeman. They're both fine, but I wouldn't be investing anything significant in them. They'd be in my first round if I absolutely had to take the pick, but otherwise I'd be looking to move.
Also, a lot of disrespect for RoJo. He has an excellent combination of talent, situation, and age (only 20). He's a no-brainer for me near the top. Problem is deciding where he fits with all of the other really good backs.
Also, a lot of disrespect for RoJo. He has an excellent combination of talent, situation, and age (only 20). He's a no-brainer for me near the top. Problem is deciding where he fits with all of the other really good backs.
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I wouldn't draft Chubb until the late 1st. Not a big fan of his talent as he's not an explosive/twitchy runner at all and then he went to a team that already has a 3rd down back and has an early down back that's better than Chubb. I don't see him doing much this year and then his value will plummet.
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, MJones, CNewton, RFitz
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, JMixon, AJDillon, LMurray, DarWilliams, GBernard
WR: SDiggs, ACooper, BAiyuk, JJones, LShenault, BCooks, KToney, KHamler, VJefferson
TE: JSmith, ISmith, ZErtz
Team 2 - 16 team, PPR, SF
QB: JBurrow, CWentz, ZWilson, Jimmy G
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, BSnell, TGurley, DGuice
WR: JChase, BAiyuk, CSutton, THiggins, JJeudy, JReagor, BEdwards
TE: ISmith, HarBryant, DSample, TTremble
QB: MRyan, MJones, CNewton, RFitz
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, JMixon, AJDillon, LMurray, DarWilliams, GBernard
WR: SDiggs, ACooper, BAiyuk, JJones, LShenault, BCooks, KToney, KHamler, VJefferson
TE: JSmith, ISmith, ZErtz
Team 2 - 16 team, PPR, SF
QB: JBurrow, CWentz, ZWilson, Jimmy G
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, BSnell, TGurley, DGuice
WR: JChase, BAiyuk, CSutton, THiggins, JJeudy, JReagor, BEdwards
TE: ISmith, HarBryant, DSample, TTremble
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Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Johnson, Rojo, Guice(for the price)
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Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
I disagree with that, but I understand the situation is still muddy.Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:07 pm I wouldn't draft Chubb until the late 1st. Not a big fan of his talent as he's not an explosive/twitchy runner at all and then he went to a team that already has a 3rd down back and has an early down back that's better than Chubb. I don't see him doing much this year and then his value will plummet.
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Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Im assuming you mean you wont take him at 1.02? Care to elaborate? He seems to be the guy to take but Ive seen some others taken there.
Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Johnson, Rojo and Chubb
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Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Others have said it but I hate Rojos vision, I'll also not touch Freeman in the first rnd
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Re: Top 8 Rookie RB's - Which ones are on your "DO NOT DRAFT" list?
Guice will probably be someone I won't end up drafting, just like I have no shares in Mixon. I want a discount for off field red flags, and immaturity whilst in a professional environment is a red flag for me (see Gronk for acceptable immaturity in a non professional environment). There has been a lot of advances in NFL backrooms, but they are still way better at coaching football than personal development, so football red flags have a better chance of being fixed in my opinion.
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