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Re: Josh Allen

Postby ImaRounder » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:25 pm

Heres one of the completion percentage guys^? Wheres the moron jason? And the advanced statistician bsp?

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Re: Josh Allen

Postby JoshGordonsDealer » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:30 pm

ImaRounder wrote:
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Heres one of the completion percentage guys^? Wheres the moron jason? And the advanced statistician bsp?
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Re: Josh Allen

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:45 pm

His adjusted completion percentage (counting drops as if they were receptions) on the season is still 31st in the league . . . just throwing that out there, lol
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Re: Josh Allen

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:48 pm

And his average depth of target is a hefty 10.9, so there is also that!
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Re: Josh Allen

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:53 pm

Also only completing 58% of passes thrown between 0-9 yards of the LOS so far this season . . . typically that number should be close to 80%
16tm PPR, Superflex, 1.5 TE prem, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is current rookies and devy (only NFL draft-eligible players for the following year) combined

QB: T Lawrence (DEVY), J Fields (DEVY), Grier
RB: Etienne (DEVY), C Hubbard (DEVY), N Harris (DEVY), K Brooks (DEVY), B Scott, B Scarbrough, B Love
WR: C Lamb, T McLaurin, J Chase (DEVY), R Moore (DEVY), J Waddle (DEVY), T Higgins, T Wallace (DEVY), Isabella, Pettis, A Tate, Bisi, G Ward
TE: H Hurst, Sternberger, Firsker, B Jordan(DEVY), C Kolar(DEVY)
2021 Picks: three 1sts, one 2nd

Safe L 287 rebuild: 12tm PPR, Superflex, 2.0 TE prem;
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 2 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield
RB: Jacobs, Conner, Henderson, Cohen, Bowden, M Brown, Love, Scarbrough, D Anderson
WR: McLaurin, M Brown, Reagor, Higgins, Shenault, Diontae, A Miller, H Butler, Ward, C Johnson
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Re: Josh Allen

Postby ImaRounder » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:02 pm

tresskid84 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:53 pm
Also only completing 58% of passes thrown between 0-9 yards of the LOS so far this season . . . typically that number should be close to 80%
None of this matters. Literally, not a single statistic that brought up matters. He went into minnesota and got a W.

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Re: Josh Allen

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:00 pm

ImaRounder wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:02 pm
tresskid84 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:53 pm
Also only completing 58% of passes thrown between 0-9 yards of the LOS so far this season . . . typically that number should be close to 80%
None of this matters. Literally, not a single statistic that brought up matters. He went into minnesota and got a W.
Lol, context doesn't matter at all, as long as your defense wins games for you
16tm PPR, Superflex, 1.5 TE prem, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is current rookies and devy (only NFL draft-eligible players for the following year) combined

QB: T Lawrence (DEVY), J Fields (DEVY), Grier
RB: Etienne (DEVY), C Hubbard (DEVY), N Harris (DEVY), K Brooks (DEVY), B Scott, B Scarbrough, B Love
WR: C Lamb, T McLaurin, J Chase (DEVY), R Moore (DEVY), J Waddle (DEVY), T Higgins, T Wallace (DEVY), Isabella, Pettis, A Tate, Bisi, G Ward
TE: H Hurst, Sternberger, Firsker, B Jordan(DEVY), C Kolar(DEVY)
2021 Picks: three 1sts, one 2nd

Safe L 287 rebuild: 12tm PPR, Superflex, 2.0 TE prem;
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 2 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield
RB: Jacobs, Conner, Henderson, Cohen, Bowden, M Brown, Love, Scarbrough, D Anderson
WR: McLaurin, M Brown, Reagor, Higgins, Shenault, Diontae, A Miller, H Butler, Ward, C Johnson
TE: Andrews, Hock, Moreau, Olsen
2021 Picks: four 1sts, three 2nds

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Re: Josh Allen

Postby JoshGordonsDealer » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:44 am

tresskid84 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:00 pm
ImaRounder wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:02 pm
tresskid84 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:53 pm
Also only completing 58% of passes thrown between 0-9 yards of the LOS so far this season . . . typically that number should be close to 80%
None of this matters. Literally, not a single statistic that brought up matters. He went into minnesota and got a W.
Lol, context doesn't matter at all, as long as your defense wins games for you
Josh was out there playing Linebacker, Cornerback, the whole deal.

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Re: Josh Allen

Postby Ice » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:54 am

tresskid84 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:00 pm
ImaRounder wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:02 pm
tresskid84 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:53 pm
Also only completing 58% of passes thrown between 0-9 yards of the LOS so far this season . . . typically that number should be close to 80%
None of this matters. Literally, not a single statistic that brought up matters. He went into minnesota and got a W.
Lol, context doesn't matter at all, as long as your defense wins games for you
Haters gonna Hate.

Twp dropped TD's.
A pro quality look off for an easy touch pass TD.
Leaping tall LB's in a single bound.
Flying to the pylon for a rushing TD.
Rushing for another after a dropped TD.

Yep Haters gonna Hate no matter what eyes see especially against a SB contending team on the road no less.

It is a team game no doubt and the defense looked stout but the best player on the field between these two teams last week was Allen easily.

He won the game with his intellect, arm, and feet.

The haters might want reevaluate and enjoy watching this player develop.
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Re: Josh Allen

Postby JoshGordonsDealer » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:20 am

I absolutely hate that one can't point out context without being labeled "a hater."

I like Josh Allen. I don't think one good game makes him the second coming of Christ and erases his history of accuracy issues. I'm not saying he won't succeed, just that he's not all the sudden a QB1 for me.

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Re: Josh Allen

Postby ImaRounder » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:26 am

JoshGordonsDealer wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:20 am
I absolutely hate that one can't point out context without being labeled "a hater."

I like Josh Allen. I don't think one good game makes him the second coming of Christ and erases his history of accuracy issues. I'm not saying he won't succeed, just that he's not all the sudden a QB1 for me.
My issues are with the people that said he couldnt succeed. That he was at the same level as lauletta. That he was a third round SF rookie pick because his completion percentage in JUCO. In that one game, he proved all of them wrong.

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Re: Josh Allen

Postby ericanadian » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:26 pm

ImaRounder wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:26 am
JoshGordonsDealer wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:20 am
I absolutely hate that one can't point out context without being labeled "a hater."

I like Josh Allen. I don't think one good game makes him the second coming of Christ and erases his history of accuracy issues. I'm not saying he won't succeed, just that he's not all the sudden a QB1 for me.
My issues are with the people that said he couldnt succeed. That he was at the same level as lauletta. That he was a third round SF rookie pick because his completion percentage in JUCO. In that one game, he proved all of them wrong.
I said that no one with the accuracy rates he had in college has been successful before and while it was not impossible for him to succeed, I would let someone else take the risk. The fact that he beat the odds doesn't bother me. I much prefer the guys that go downfield to the dink and dunk nonsense the NFL has started to become.
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Re: Josh Allen

Postby tresskid84 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:49 pm

ImaRounder wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:26 am
JoshGordonsDealer wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:20 am
I absolutely hate that one can't point out context without being labeled "a hater."

I like Josh Allen. I don't think one good game makes him the second coming of Christ and erases his history of accuracy issues. I'm not saying he won't succeed, just that he's not all the sudden a QB1 for me.
My issues are with the people that said he couldnt succeed. That he was at the same level as lauletta. That he was a third round SF rookie pick because his completion percentage in JUCO. In that one game, he proved all of them wrong.
And did the game before against the Chargers prove them all right when he was downright awful? I'm actually cheering for the kid to be successful, but seeing all the excuses for this kid just gets me going, haha. I still feel today the same I did before the draft, he has a lot of great tools and seems like a great kid, easy to root for, but his consistency, decision making, and accuracy still concern me. The past two weeks are basically a perfect encapsulation of that, was AWFUL against San Diego, played very well against Minnesota (was the best player on the Bills offense, was NOT the best player on the field. Though he played well, their defense was the MVP of that game). If he can string a few games together with better consistency, I will GLADLY come on here and eat crow, because again, I'm cheering for the kid.
16tm PPR, Superflex, 1.5 TE prem, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is current rookies and devy (only NFL draft-eligible players for the following year) combined

QB: T Lawrence (DEVY), J Fields (DEVY), Grier
RB: Etienne (DEVY), C Hubbard (DEVY), N Harris (DEVY), K Brooks (DEVY), B Scott, B Scarbrough, B Love
WR: C Lamb, T McLaurin, J Chase (DEVY), R Moore (DEVY), J Waddle (DEVY), T Higgins, T Wallace (DEVY), Isabella, Pettis, A Tate, Bisi, G Ward
TE: H Hurst, Sternberger, Firsker, B Jordan(DEVY), C Kolar(DEVY)
2021 Picks: three 1sts, one 2nd

Safe L 287 rebuild: 12tm PPR, Superflex, 2.0 TE prem;
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 2 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield
RB: Jacobs, Conner, Henderson, Cohen, Bowden, M Brown, Love, Scarbrough, D Anderson
WR: McLaurin, M Brown, Reagor, Higgins, Shenault, Diontae, A Miller, H Butler, Ward, C Johnson
TE: Andrews, Hock, Moreau, Olsen
2021 Picks: four 1sts, three 2nds

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Re: Josh Allen

Postby notweswelker » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:44 pm

tresskid84 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:49 pm
And did the game before against the Chargers prove them all right when he was downright awful? I'm actually cheering for the kid to be successful, but seeing all the excuses for this kid just gets me going, haha. I still feel today the same I did before the draft, he has a lot of great tools and seems like a great kid, easy to root for, but his consistency, decision making, and accuracy still concern me. The past two weeks are basically a perfect encapsulation of that, was AWFUL against San Diego, played very well against Minnesota (was the best player on the Bills offense, was NOT the best player on the field. Though he played well, their defense was the MVP of that game). If he can string a few games together with better consistency, I will GLADLY come on here and eat crow, because again, I'm cheering for the kid.
If he can string a few good games together with that O-line and receiving corps he might be the reincarnation of Christ. I said this earlier in the thread but I can't judge him this season, that team needs an influx of talent next off-season before I'd feel fair judging him. Mahomes gets to step into a damn Ferrari with a top O-line, top RB, top coach, 3 star WRs, Kelce, and a year to watch. Allen is basically out there by himself making magic out of manure whilst running for his life and saving orphans in Buffalo. I doubt even Tom Brady could play well on that team.

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Re: Josh Allen

Postby Ice » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:56 pm

ericanadian wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:26 pm
ImaRounder wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:26 am
JoshGordonsDealer wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:20 am
I absolutely hate that one can't point out context without being labeled "a hater."

I like Josh Allen. I don't think one good game makes him the second coming of Christ and erases his history of accuracy issues. I'm not saying he won't succeed, just that he's not all the sudden a QB1 for me.
My issues are with the people that said he couldnt succeed. That he was at the same level as lauletta. That he was a third round SF rookie pick because his completion percentage in JUCO. In that one game, he proved all of them wrong.
I said that no one with the accuracy rates he had in college has been successful before and while it was not impossible for him to succeed, I would let someone else take the risk. The fact that he beat the odds doesn't bother me. I much prefer the guys that go downfield to the dink and dunk nonsense the NFL has started to become.
If you said "No One with the accuracy rates he had in college has been successful before" then here are a couple for you to ponder:

The most recent with sub 60% completion percentage is M. Stafford who went #1 overall. Brett Favre had a way worse completion percentage in college and just this past Sunday Drew Brees finally broke his all time record of 6,300 completions.

The one thing you should like about Allen is he is the embodiment of the down the field passer.

Obviously, he needs to develop but his upside is through the roof and that upside wass on full display this past Sunday.
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