What do you use to measure players values in trades?

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What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby Smoking Guns » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:18 am

Just curios as I have seen people use a variety of measures from charts with numerical values to the ADP to just basic need. What this the most common measure you use when trying to trade players?

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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby dynastyninja » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:27 am

Picks for me. Generally I think of players being worth x number of random 1sts, 2nds, 3rds, or a combination

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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby UATahoe » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:35 am

I have found myself leveraging back to ADP to get an idea and adjust slightly on need or depth. I still struggle with this a good bit but that's how I have started approaching it.
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1 QB Mahomes, Dak Prescott
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3 WR OBJ, K. Allen, A. Cooper, S. Watkins, DJ Moore, C. Godwin, D. Pettis, Michael Gallup, Preston Williams
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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby Phaded » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:43 am

A dartboard with player faces, a blindfold and a barrel of whiskey.

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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby Kramer » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:45 am

Replacement value of the player is an excellent way to think about it regardless of your league. The whole supply vs. demand concept.

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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:56 pm

Kramer wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:45 am
Replacement value of the player is an excellent way to think about it regardless of your league. The whole supply vs. demand concept.
Yup
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NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Hilton, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, Wims, Dez
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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby Valhalla » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:50 pm

Where’s Bruiser when you need a good old fashioned value over replacement preach?

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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby koalabear » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:48 pm

Will I be embarrassed to put the trade on the DLF forum,?
1. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE. Yr 5
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RB: Guice, Michel, Sanders
WR: JuJu, Allen, Woods, Fuller, Anderson
TE: Irv Smith, Doyle
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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QB: Wilson, Jackson, Brady
RB: Lindsay, Ingram, Michel, Singletary
WR: Adams, Diggs, Lockett, Shepard, Campbell, A Tate
TE: Waller, Fant, McDonald
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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby IR1 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:21 pm

Not trade calculators 😀
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Wilson, Cousins, Winston, Luck/ Kamara, Chubb, Mixon/Hopkins, Evans, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, CDavis, Harry, JJAW/ Kelce, Howard, Fant/ PK
Buckner, Simmons, Hurst/JBosa, Hunter, Dunlap, Barnett / D Jones, DLeonard, Edmunds, E Kendricks, REvans, TSmith, Tavai, Pratt/Moore, Peters, Jenkins/ Byard, HSmith, James IR
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Wentz, Cousins, Lock, Bridgewater, Minshew/ KJohnson, Michel, Sanders, Hill, Walton/ Allen, Lockett, AJ Brown, JJAW, Meyers, DJax, AMiller, Sheppard, MJones, Kirk, Treadwell, KCole/ Ertz, Fant, Hurst

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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby moishetreats » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:32 pm

It sounds obvious. But, for me, it's about the players. If I like the player that I'm receiving, then I figure out how to make it work; if I don't, then I reject the trade. Rankings help if it's reaaaallllllly close or as a way to potentially gauge what the other guy might think that the market is.

But, in the end, it's all about the players for me. I don't see how it can be any other way*.

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RB: Gurley, Gordon, Mixon, Edwards
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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby BradysBunch » Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:49 am

Every situation is different. I will start by looking at the draft calculate. But that is just to get a starting point. It goes out the window pretty quickly, but I do like to see where the other person is coming from if they are using it. Most of the time I look at what I believe they will score ppg. Then adjust for age.
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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby pokerface40 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:49 am

Phaded wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:43 am
A dartboard with player faces, a blindfold and a barrel of whiskey.
Well played, but pretty close to my strategy. I do look at ADP and various rankings to see if I am off-base, but mostly go with my gut. I also have a few friends I like to bounce ideas off of. This forum seems to give a relative consensus on a lot of players so my bias lies with DLF, but I also stray from the pack quite a bit. In the end it comes down to your leaguemates and you, and how team construction vs. value ends in a win in your mind.
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QB: Big Ben/Stafford/Dalton
RB:Mixon/Fournette/Cohen/Thompson/Hyde/Crowell/Burkhead/Lynch/CJA/Davis/Ware
WRNuk/KAllen/Landry/Fitz/Moore/Crowder/Caon/Bourne/Ateman/Fountain/Berrios
TE: Kelce/Harris/Shaheen/James
DST: Stream

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12 Team PPR Superflex - 1 QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 Superflex
QB: Brees/Roethlisberger/Dak/Tyrod/Rudolph
RB:Cook/Mack/Hunt/Collins/AP/Hyde/Murray/Ware/Doug
WR:Thielen/Cooper/Landry/Kirk/Tate/Fitz/Dez/Beasley/Pryor/Powell
TE: J. Graham/Burton/Brate/Rico/Harris

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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby Blackout » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:33 am

Fantasypros & FBG trade values chart

https://www.fantasypros.com/2018/04/fan ... 18-update/
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/app ... tradevalue

DLF ADP & Rankings (always 15 last days, no more). They even have made a 2 QB Rookie ADP recently : https://dynastyleaguefootball.com/2018/ ... ort-april/

DTC & FantasyFFtools calculator specially DTC who uses a 10/12/14/16 teams and PPR/Non PPR/Superflex/2 QB system.

https://dynastytradecalculator.com/calculator/
http://www.dynastyfftools.com/tools/calculator

But the final decision is certainly my own advice :D It's just an help cause we can't see further like experts do all year long.

For interested people i've found a site for Superflex ADP with Vets, Rookies and both reunited : http://ffdynasty260.com/superflex-adp/

I use pick trade calculator too : https://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm (but i really think number of picks takes advantage on the gap between early picks and late picks in this one. And between 1.01 and 1.02, there is absolutely no difference. So to be taken with a grain of salt) and the same one but more elaborate (until 8 picks) with lineup requirements, rosters, teams...http://subscribers.footballguys.com/app ... Calculator
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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby ArrylT » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:24 am

pokerface40 wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:49 am
Phaded wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:43 am
A dartboard with player faces, a blindfold and a barrel of whiskey.
Well played, but pretty close to my strategy. I do look at ADP and various rankings to see if I am off-base, but mostly go with my gut. I also have a few friends I like to bounce ideas off of. This forum seems to give a relative consensus on a lot of players so my bias lies with DLF, but I also stray from the pack quite a bit. In the end it comes down to your leaguemates and you, and how team construction vs. value ends in a win in your mind.
I dunno ... I have a feeling that approach wastes a lot of whisky ...
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Re: What do you use to measure players values in trades?

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:42 am

pokerface40 wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:49 am
Phaded wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:43 am
A dartboard with player faces, a blindfold and a barrel of whiskey.
Well played, but pretty close to my strategy. I do look at ADP and various rankings to see if I am off-base, but mostly go with my gut. I also have a few friends I like to bounce ideas off of. This forum seems to give a relative consensus on a lot of players so my bias lies with DLF, but I also stray from the pack quite a bit. In the end it comes down to your leaguemates and you, and how team construction vs. value ends in a win in your mind.
This. I have my own rough rankings, then throw out or reply to offers. Sometime, people say my offer seems off then refer to ADP from here or other sites. Lately, I've been looking at ADPs and calculators first to gauge an offer before sending, to get a sense of what the other owner might think.

I also like to find owners in my leagues that have a trustworthy sense and bounce ideas of them.
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