It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Fwiw I just stashed Dorsett again... Could do worse than a 1st round WR that hits FA this year. But he's obviously not a hit or as exciting as Moore, Ridley, Fuller, Williams.
And a WR doesn't necessarily need to hit 1000 to maintain value. Hollywood is doing quite well, but will miss 1000 yards this season due to a few missed weeks and inconsistent rookie year. I think the consensus would say that he will have multiple 1000 yard seasons before all said and done though. That was my take on DJ Moore last year
Edit: back to the OP (where we were just looking at 2015-2017)... It looks like one of those awful 3 year stretches where WR were over selected in the 1st round. I'd bet that Amari will remain the only WR to hit 1000 2x. I still think Davis and Williams and Fuller have the talent to do it maybe once, but I'm not sold on any of those guys putting together a consistent career at this point. If Fuller could stay healthy he would be my favorite, but that's a pipe dream
And a WR doesn't necessarily need to hit 1000 to maintain value. Hollywood is doing quite well, but will miss 1000 yards this season due to a few missed weeks and inconsistent rookie year. I think the consensus would say that he will have multiple 1000 yard seasons before all said and done though. That was my take on DJ Moore last year
Edit: back to the OP (where we were just looking at 2015-2017)... It looks like one of those awful 3 year stretches where WR were over selected in the 1st round. I'd bet that Amari will remain the only WR to hit 1000 2x. I still think Davis and Williams and Fuller have the talent to do it maybe once, but I'm not sold on any of those guys putting together a consistent career at this point. If Fuller could stay healthy he would be my favorite, but that's a pipe dream
Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
True, but the theme of this thread seemed to be talking about who’s going to be a “hit” (or is one), not “who can we acquire at reasonable prices that will hit”. If it was the latter, I’d be going after Ridley under the assumption that DJ is going to cost you much more as the current WR1 in Carolina.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:42 am Yeah, but most of these guys are affordable, try buy Moore. Ain't gonna be cheap.
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Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Having owned a few of these guys, it’s crazy how many of these guys were arguably derailed by major injuries.ArrylT wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:04 amBasically what he said. If you go back to the original premise by Dynasty Delorean - 1st round WRs are basically expected to have 2 1000 yard seasons in order to be deemed successful. And once a WR has a 1 1000 yard season, the odds that they will have a 2nd or more tend to increase - ie once it is proven they can produce they get more chances to repeat.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:42 am Yeah, but most of these guys are affordable, try buy Moore. Ain't gonna be cheap.
Guys dominate at dynasty for buying early, low and/or cheap and selling high.
So basically for the cost of a 3rd or a 4th or an open roster spot in some cases, you may be able to acquire some guys who could still have fantasy value after the initial hype was disappointed.
Plus it is hard to believe this streak of bad luck by 1st round selections has lasted so long - but glad to see DJ Moore is soon set to end it.
Kevin White, Breshad Perriman, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Doctson, John Ross & Mike Williams all have suffered major injuries, and White, Perriman, Ross & Docston all suffered one of those injuries before hitting double digit targets.
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Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Yeah, as with anything it's usually just never one reason why things go wrong. I'd wager a few of those players could have had Kelvin Benjamin-like careers if they just stayed healthy. As in, even if they sucked, they could have produced for a few years before being tossed out of the league.ericanadian wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:42 amHaving owned a few of these guys, it’s crazy how many of these guys were arguably derailed by major injuries.ArrylT wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:04 am
Basically what he said. If you go back to the original premise by Dynasty Delorean - 1st round WRs are basically expected to have 2 1000 yard seasons in order to be deemed successful. And once a WR has a 1 1000 yard season, the odds that they will have a 2nd or more tend to increase - ie once it is proven they can produce they get more chances to repeat.
So basically for the cost of a 3rd or a 4th or an open roster spot in some cases, you may be able to acquire some guys who could still have fantasy value after the initial hype was disappointed.
Plus it is hard to believe this streak of bad luck by 1st round selections has lasted so long - but glad to see DJ Moore is soon set to end it.
Kevin White, Breshad Perriman, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Doctson, John Ross & Mike Williams all have suffered major injuries, and White, Perriman, Ross & Docston all suffered one of those injuries before hitting double digit targets.
Perriman is literally garbage though.
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Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Parker looking like he could make it halfway there this season!
Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Parker fi ally putting it together after all these years lol
Was anyone on here a staunch Parker supporter?
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Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Same. Have been off him for what seems like a really long time. Think I even tried to jump ship but ended up with him again for some time lol I'd take him back now, but also doubt that he ever repeats the year he's having.
Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Crazy how close 2014 was to being a perfect 5 for 5. Kelvin and Sammy both had 1k yard seasons and a 900 in their first 2 years. Sammy 982 in his rookie year, KB 941 in his 2nd year... Then all downhill from there
I'm sure there's a Sammy truther or 2 that might believe he has another in him lol
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I've held him on my roster since I drafted him. Whether it be stupidity or extreme patience, he's propelled me into the finals this year.
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Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
So your saying there's hope for Corey Davis yet?Hottoddies wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:30 pmI've held him on my roster since I drafted him. Whether it be stupidity or extreme patience, he's propelled me into the finals this year.
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Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Mike Will is about to reach the 1,000 yard plateau, so if they can put it all together he’s had a 10 TD season and now a 1,000 yard season. Seems to always have something disappointing happen to the Chargers each year, this year it’s rivers’ declining play
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Kevin White - 0
Likely out of league except as depth desperation
DeVante Parker - 1202 Yards
1st 1000 yard season (good bet to reach 2 if he plays 4-5 more seasons)
Nelson Agholor - 363 Yards
Worst result since rookie year (however Parkers worst year was 2018 the year before he hit 1200)
Breshad Perriman - 645 yards
Signs of life - still unlikely he'll get 2 1k seasons - but no longer DOA
Phillip Dorsett - 397 Yards
Best result since 2016
Corey Coleman - 0
Likely out of league except as depth desperation
Will Fuller - 670 Yards
Best result so far - will Houston regret taking 5th year option?
Josh Doctson - 0
See Coleman & White
Laquon Treadwell - 184 yards
Might have a career as a depth 4-5-6 wr
Corey Davis - 601 Yards
Devante Parker career track?
Mike Williams - 1001 Yards
Sneaks in just at the buzzer! On track now to follow a Robert Woods career path (high end WR2 semi-blocked by PPR WR Keenan Allen / Cooper Kupp type)?
John Ross - 506 Yards
Bengals version of Will Fuller - lets see if they take the Year 5 option first ...
Calvin Ridley - 866 Yards
Missed time stops 1000 yard season but still improves on total from Year I.
Moore - 1175 Yards
Admit it - if I told you at the beginning of the Season Devante Parker would beat DJ Moore in Yards and bet you $100 dollars you'd have taken that bet. And lost. Nonetheless is now a very safe bet to repeat 1k seasons. But will he ever eclipse CMC who just had 1k season times 2? CMC got more targets than Moore & this is without counting a single rushing attempt ...
Harry - 105 Yards
Believe it or not but Harrys yardage & targets increased down the stretch. But dont expect 1k til Yr 3 now.
Marquise Brown - 584 Yards
On the surface a good start - but what happened down the stretch? 11 rookies out receiving yarded Brown in the past 8 games & 2 more (RBs came close).
Kevin White - 0
Likely out of league except as depth desperation
DeVante Parker - 1202 Yards
1st 1000 yard season (good bet to reach 2 if he plays 4-5 more seasons)
Nelson Agholor - 363 Yards
Worst result since rookie year (however Parkers worst year was 2018 the year before he hit 1200)
Breshad Perriman - 645 yards
Signs of life - still unlikely he'll get 2 1k seasons - but no longer DOA
Phillip Dorsett - 397 Yards
Best result since 2016
Corey Coleman - 0
Likely out of league except as depth desperation
Will Fuller - 670 Yards
Best result so far - will Houston regret taking 5th year option?
Josh Doctson - 0
See Coleman & White
Laquon Treadwell - 184 yards
Might have a career as a depth 4-5-6 wr
Corey Davis - 601 Yards
Devante Parker career track?
Mike Williams - 1001 Yards
Sneaks in just at the buzzer! On track now to follow a Robert Woods career path (high end WR2 semi-blocked by PPR WR Keenan Allen / Cooper Kupp type)?
John Ross - 506 Yards
Bengals version of Will Fuller - lets see if they take the Year 5 option first ...
Calvin Ridley - 866 Yards
Missed time stops 1000 yard season but still improves on total from Year I.
Moore - 1175 Yards
Admit it - if I told you at the beginning of the Season Devante Parker would beat DJ Moore in Yards and bet you $100 dollars you'd have taken that bet. And lost. Nonetheless is now a very safe bet to repeat 1k seasons. But will he ever eclipse CMC who just had 1k season times 2? CMC got more targets than Moore & this is without counting a single rushing attempt ...
Harry - 105 Yards
Believe it or not but Harrys yardage & targets increased down the stretch. But dont expect 1k til Yr 3 now.
Marquise Brown - 584 Yards
On the surface a good start - but what happened down the stretch? 11 rookies out receiving yarded Brown in the past 8 games & 2 more (RBs came close).
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Re: It's likely at least 2 more 1st round WR's from the 2015-2017 NFL draft classes will hit. But which ones?
Interesting, so Parker and Mike Willy made it. Good bet at least one of them gets another one.
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Yep!Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:58 pm Interesting, so Parker and Mike Willy made it. Good bet at least one of them gets another one.
I bolded all who succeeded so it was easier to spot.
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