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Re: Josh Allen's arm talent is unbelievable.
Some team will waste a 1st round pick on this guy. It's like he's just closing his eyes and winding up to throw as hard as he can. Horrible accuracy, IMO.
He'd destroy the barn if he could hit it, though.
He'd destroy the barn if he could hit it, though.
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Re: Josh Allen's arm talent is unbelievable.
If the Giants feel they need to draft a QB, Josh Allen could be a good fit because I think he would benefit GREATLY from sitting behind an older franchise QB for a year or two.
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Re: Josh Allen's arm talent is unbelievable.
Says the guy who drafted Trubisky at 2.4 in a 10 team 1 QB IDP league hahahaha..................
Re: Josh Allen's arm talent is unbelievable.
Jamarcus never wanted to put in the work, that is a completely different aspect of the game. If your position is that Allen has a weak work ethic then you will have my attention.
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Re: Josh Allen's arm talent is unbelievable.
Does Josh Allen calling Dan Marion John Elway drop him on your board ...
https://sportsnaut.com/2018/03/josh-all ... ohn-elway/
https://sportsnaut.com/2018/03/josh-all ... ohn-elway/
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Re: Josh Allen's arm talent is unbelievable.
Was going to say this, but fellow Raider fan beat me to it. Now excuse me, losing all these tears has made me a little de-hydrated. I'm going to go get some purple drank.
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Re: Josh Allen's arm talent is unbelievable.
I just pretend Jamarcus Russell never happened ...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:33 amWas going to say this, but fellow Raider fan beat me to it. Now excuse me, losing all these tears has made me a little de-hydrated. I'm going to go get some purple drank.
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Re: Josh Allen's arm talent is unbelievable.
ArrylT wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:36 amI just pretend Jamarcus Russell never happened ...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:33 amWas going to say this, but fellow Raider fan beat me to it. Now excuse me, losing all these tears has made me a little de-hydrated. I'm going to go get some purple drank.
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Josh Allen
First, I apologize if Allen has been discussed in prior threads
Second, I don’t see what he has done to warrant being a top selection in the draft besides having a strong arm. I also haven’t spoken with anyone in the dynasty community that thinks positively of Allen. What is it that we are missing that the “pros” are seeing? His accuracy is atrocious, and in my opinion, accuracy can’t be taught. As a Bills fan, I’ve seen the “big arm” QBs (Losman, Manuel) come in and fall on their face.
I guess where I’m getting, someone tell me why he’s a top five pick and why I should throw a remote at my tv if the Bills trade up and select the guy (or for anyone that feels the same for their team)
Second, I don’t see what he has done to warrant being a top selection in the draft besides having a strong arm. I also haven’t spoken with anyone in the dynasty community that thinks positively of Allen. What is it that we are missing that the “pros” are seeing? His accuracy is atrocious, and in my opinion, accuracy can’t be taught. As a Bills fan, I’ve seen the “big arm” QBs (Losman, Manuel) come in and fall on their face.
I guess where I’m getting, someone tell me why he’s a top five pick and why I should throw a remote at my tv if the Bills trade up and select the guy (or for anyone that feels the same for their team)
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Re: Josh Allen
I think if he sits 1-2 years he could be the best QB in this class ... if he plays this year he'll be a disaster.
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Will be awful. Hoping Browns take him so they can add another name to their long miserable list of failure and continue disappointing all the suckers who continue to follow them.
Re: Josh Allen
Allen reminds me of Kizer, and what a coincidence they share similar traits, being mocked to the same team and both had poor accuracy in college. Remember that Kizer was being touted as someone that could have the upside of Big Ben.
For the situation/team Kizer was drafted into, I think I agreed with playing him from Week 1 but Hue Jackson is such a bum of a head coach that along with Kizer's poor game mistakes it torpedoed any hopes of him developing into that "Big Ben".
I think Allen would share a similar fate if he was forced into the limelight today, and in all honesty, would probably be much worse than Kizer. To me, the only way I'm drafting him in my 2QB or SF leagues is if some decent/contending team traded up and nabbed him to sit behind their incumbent like Pat Mahomes last year.
For the situation/team Kizer was drafted into, I think I agreed with playing him from Week 1 but Hue Jackson is such a bum of a head coach that along with Kizer's poor game mistakes it torpedoed any hopes of him developing into that "Big Ben".
I think Allen would share a similar fate if he was forced into the limelight today, and in all honesty, would probably be much worse than Kizer. To me, the only way I'm drafting him in my 2QB or SF leagues is if some decent/contending team traded up and nabbed him to sit behind their incumbent like Pat Mahomes last year.
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Re: Josh Allen
Scouts see a smart kid with a huge arm who comes off as a leader/good character, so many have become enamored. He has A LOT of work to do though. He is decent throwing to his first read, but once he has to go to a secondary read or reset his feet, his accuracy, which is already questionable, usually goes in the toilet. He has typically been a pretty good decision maker, so he has that going for him, but I agree with the previous post, accuracy rarely changes (not impossible though, Stafford is the first example that comes to mind, but there are A LOT more Hackenbergs out there than Staffords). Even looking at charting of his throws to open receivers (a step or more separation), his accuracy/ball placement is at the bottom of this class.
I'm not touching him unless he falls, and I would love for him to sit a year or two with a good qb coach and vet qb in front of him. He would be a perfect day 2 developmental guy, but that isnt happening and he will likely be thrown into action before he is ready.
I'm not touching him unless he falls, and I would love for him to sit a year or two with a good qb coach and vet qb in front of him. He would be a perfect day 2 developmental guy, but that isnt happening and he will likely be thrown into action before he is ready.
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RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
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