Release the Guice! - The Derrius Guice Discussion Thread

[Bot101]

If you are not in need of immediate RB production and you're sold on Guice more than anyone else take him anyway. Or you could trade back to 1.03-1.04 and likely take him there. Or take Penny. I believe in DDs running back report and it graded Penny alongside Guice.

[FantasyFreak]

If you are not in need of immediate RB production and you're sold on Guice more than anyone else take him anyway. Or you could trade back to 1.03-1.04 and likely take him there. Or take Penny. I believe in DDs running back report and it graded Penny alongside Guice.

You of anyone know how "being in need immediate RB production" can change quickly, I say he takes Penny if he thinks he's close to Guice. I am high on Rashaad, though, and he looked good last night.

[Checker1183]

Penny before the injury and Penny after the injury for me.

This for me

[ArrylT]

Didn't Gurley tear his ACL? I would say he is doing just fine.

Sure, but Gurley didn't miss any NFL time, and was a much better prospect. Guice will come back and play again, but he is still an unknown in the NFL, and he loses value right now, it is just the way it is. It's dynasty, you can hold him, I would. He's still young, but this still affects his current value.

Technically Gurley did miss the first 3 weeks of the 2015 season, and barely played Week IV.

[thebeast]

Ugh. For a dynasty forum there are a lot of short term thinkers. RBs get injured. Go ahead, pick a guy with lesser talent and wait until he has an injury. Not many rbs make it through a career without a significant injury. This reminds me of when everyone sold Charles or AP after their acl tears, savvy owners scooped them up and reaped rewards, while over reactors lost. Tell me, what rb had an acl inury then had their talent decline?

[Bot101]

If you are not in need of immediate RB production and you're sold on Guice more than anyone else take him anyway. Or you could trade back to 1.03-1.04 and likely take him there. Or take Penny. I believe in DDs running back report and it graded Penny alongside Guice.

You of anyone know how "being in need immediate RB production" can change quickly, I say he takes Penny if he thinks he's close to Guice. I am high on Rashaad, though, and he looked good last night.

Lol that’s very true. I think Seattle in general will destroy the fantasy value of Penny for a portion of the season. So I wouldn’t rely on Penny. For me if nobody will trade up to 1.02 I would sit tight and take Penny.

[FantasyFreak]

Ugh. For a dynasty forum there are a lot of short term thinkers. RBs get injured. Go ahead, pick a guy with lesser talent and wait until he has an injury. Not many rbs make it through a career without a significant injury. This reminds me of when everyone sold Charles or AP after their acl tears, savvy owners scooped them up and reaped rewards, while over reactors lost. Tell me, what rb had an acl inury then had their talent decline?

You are making an assumption. I don't think guys like Penny or Chubb are lesser talents. I had Guice at 1.04 post NFL draft. Had him in the same tier as Penny and Chubb pre draft, but preferred Penny's overall game more, and Chubb's vision I thought was better. I do not think Guice is a superior talent to them, never have. There is really no proof of it, it's all speculative, and a case can be built on either side that is just as strong.

[FantasyFreak]

Didn't Gurley tear his ACL? I would say he is doing just fine.

Sure, but Gurley didn't miss any NFL time, and was a much better prospect. Guice will come back and play again, but he is still an unknown in the NFL, and he loses value right now, it is just the way it is. It's dynasty, you can hold him, I would. He's still young, but this still affects his current value.

Technically Gurley did miss the first 3 weeks of the 2015 season, and barely played Week IV.

Yes, I realized this after I typed it, I meant no significant time.

[DJB]

How can people be offering drsft picks for him? Guice nor the pick can't play until next season anyways lol

[DJB]

I wish all my drafts were post injury. I'd maybe have him on my teams now.

[thebeast]

Ugh. For a dynasty forum there are a lot of short term thinkers. RBs get injured. Go ahead, pick a guy with lesser talent and wait until he has an injury. Not many rbs make it through a career without a significant injury. This reminds me of when everyone sold Charles or AP after their acl tears, savvy owners scooped them up and reaped rewards, while over reactors lost. Tell me, what rb had an acl inury then had their talent decline?

You are making an assumption. I don't think guys like Penny or Chubb are lesser talents. I had Guice at 1.04 post NFL draft. Had him in the same tier as Penny and Chubb pre draft. I do not think Guice is a superior talent to them, never have. There is really no proof of it, it's all speculative, and a case can be built on either side that is just as strong.

That is a different scenario. If you had him as your 1.02 you should still have him there unless you had him neck and neck with Penny, Chubb, or another prospect.

[FantasyFreak]

Ugh. For a dynasty forum there are a lot of short term thinkers. RBs get injured. Go ahead, pick a guy with lesser talent and wait until he has an injury. Not many rbs make it through a career without a significant injury. This reminds me of when everyone sold Charles or AP after their acl tears, savvy owners scooped them up and reaped rewards, while over reactors lost. Tell me, what rb had an acl inury then had their talent decline?

You are making an assumption. I don't think guys like Penny or Chubb are lesser talents. I had Guice at 1.04 post NFL draft. Had him in the same tier as Penny and Chubb pre draft. I do not think Guice is a superior talent to them, never have. There is really no proof of it, it's all speculative, and a case can be built on either side that is just as strong.

That is a different scenario. If you had him as your 1.02 you should still have him there unless you had him neck and neck with Penny, Chubb, or another prospect.

Right, I agree not to drop him down and take an inferior talent, but if you have a guy in the same tier valued equally, you go with the healthy guy.

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DJ moore

[Bot101]

DJ moore

Haha I'm actually not opposed this. He has the least amount of warts of the remaining rookies after Barkley.

[FantasyFreak]

DJ moore

Haha I'm actually not opposed this. He has the least amount of warts of the remaining rookies after Barkley.

Didn't he do his damage against 2nd and 3rd teamers? I like DJ as a prospect, but curious about who he put his numbers up against.