When to draft luck?

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When to draft luck?

Postby marshallsnextarrest » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:18 am

When would you guys start feeling comfortable drafting luck in a 1qb 5pt per pass td league?

I'm seeing a huge buy low but unsure if I should snag him on my next round of picks. 4.01 to be exact.

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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby StableOfRBs » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:22 am

In a 1QB startup I don't see much reason to draft a QB in the single digit rounds, even if it's Rodgers or Wilson or whoever, you're better off getting someone at a value in the later rounds since they're devalued so much and focusing on a position with a lot more scarcity like RB.
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby millworkguy » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:06 am

Gotta agree with the above unless it's a 32 team league with team qb (which I doubt).
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:36 am

StableOfRBs wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:22 am
In a 1QB startup I don't see much reason to draft a QB in the single digit rounds, even if it's Rodgers or Wilson or whoever, you're better off getting someone at a value in the later rounds since they're devalued so much and focusing on a position with a lot more scarcity like RB.
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:26 pm

Wait on QB. More so with the questions surrounding Luck's shoulder, taking him at 4.01 is MUCH too high and could really set you back in a startup. Probably better off to see who's around at 10.01 + and decide on your target at that point. I'd be OK with taking Luck in that area if he's still on the board.
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby skip » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:49 pm

I don't agree at all. Playing the game of taking QBs late is a losing strategy. You want a guy you can plug in and forget about. I like to get my QB within the first few rounds. Someone like Rodgers or Wilson mentioned earlier give you a huge advantage over middling options.
4.01 is a good spot, though I'm not sure I'd make Luck my target right now with all of the uncertainty.
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby _yeti » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:47 pm

skip wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:49 pm
I don't agree at all. Playing the game of taking QBs late is a losing strategy. You want a guy you can plug in and forget about. I like to get my QB within the first few rounds. Someone like Rodgers or Wilson mentioned earlier give you a huge advantage over middling options.
4.01 is a good spot, though I'm not sure I'd make Luck my target right now with all of the uncertainty.
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby Nanananananana » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:12 pm

What rookie pick would you trade for luck in a SF?

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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby Snake » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:25 pm

Probably 1.03/4 in SF 12 team

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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby Vcize » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm

In 1qb leagues Luck was a mid-3rd round start-up pick last year before we knew the shoulder was going to be a problem. I would think his value since then has fallen a lot more than half a round.
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby thebeast » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pm

Wouldn’t pay a premium for any qb. You can get studs in the 2nd round of a rookie draft like Winston, Watson, Wentz. Why would you waste such a high pick?
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby Cameron Giles » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:16 pm

Never draft high on QB's in a 1QB startup. It's just not worth it. You can find great value for QB's later in the draft (Cousins, Stafford, Ryan, Rivers, etc.)

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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:45 pm

Count me in for the side that prefers to draft a stud QB highly and then forget about it. I tried to go a different route for the first time in the DLF Premium startup and I have regretted my decision the past 3 years (though that is 16 teams admittedly).

I do think you should go QB late, but only IF the top few are off the board. To me the difference between say the QB#6 and the QB#12 are often miniscule and really anybody's guess, but guys like Rodgers and Wilson (maybe a few other young studs, but a bit early to tell) just give you such a huge positional advantage and such a high floor that I don't mind investing in them early.

Having said that however, I
a) don't think Luck can be included that group anymore for now (though he may be again, it's just a lot bigger risk than we anticipated)
b) think 4.01 is definitely too high for him. I don't mind reaching for your guy, but I just don't think anybody else will touch him for that price, so I'd definitely wait for him to drop a bit more.
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby Balzac » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:18 am

Even the studs half off years. Picking on early doesn't allow you to forget it, and if you do you will get burned. Having a few B tier guys is better than 1 stud.
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Re: When to draft luck?

Postby skip » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:09 am

Balzac wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:18 am
Having a few B tier guys is better than 1 stud.
I don't agree at all. One stud and one of those B tier guys is the way to go. It's a huge overlooked advantage by those that devalue QBs in leagues that only require one starter.
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