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Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:35 pm
by vixen
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:52 am
AussieMate wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:42 pm There have also been stories of Rosens own team mates not liking him
None of his teammates went to his birthday party?
haha...Draft Day reference?

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:31 am
by DJB
Owning the 1.04 (via trade) and 1.11 in a 2 QB league I am definitely keeping my eyes peeled on these QB's .

I like B Mayfield, but Rosen and Darnold ranked higher everywhere. L Jackson if he pans out probably has the highest fantasy ceiling I would think .

At this point I'm confused. Lol

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:36 am
by Dirty Mike&the Boys
DJB wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:31 am Owning the 1.04 (via trade) and 1.11 in a 2 QB league I am definitely keeping my eyes peeled on these QB's .

I like B Mayfield, but Rosen and Darnold ranked higher everywhere. L Jackson if he pans out probably has the highest fantasy ceiling I would think .

At this point I'm confused. Lol
I personally like Rosen and Mayfield the best. I think Mayfield can end up being a Russell Wilson-type player due to similar mobility and arm strength. I own 1.02 but will probably go the route of RB, and try to trade back into the mid first and snag Rosen if possible. L. Jackson might be a player floating around and available in the second.

Then again I have no idea what to expect, as this will be my first rookie draft in a dynasty league, so take my input with a grain of salt..

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:41 am
by Servo
I wonder if we'll see teams overdraft Lamar Jackson in real life and in fantasy.

With what Watson did in his limited playing time, others may be hoping Lamar can do the same...I just don't think they are comparable at this point. Jackson was/is much more of a runner and much less accurate in the passing game which another inaccurate passer had problems with too in the NFL, Kizer....and that hasn't worked out well.

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:40 am
by Friction
Watson had a bad senior year in the eyes of the NFL and then lit up the Championship game, which still kept him away from the top of the draft. He still looks like he should be a starter for a long time, and possibly a star. Small sample size, so I wont rush to annoint him just yet. I have the 1.12 in a start 1 QB league (Luck, Rivers) and may consider grabbing one of them in that spot, which i usually do not do. I like the upside of most of this year's crop, so we will see where they end up.

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:48 pm
by AussieMate
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:52 am
AussieMate wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:42 pm There have also been stories of Rosens own team mates not liking him
None of his teammates went to his birthday party?
When I read the story the first thing I did was comment to my mates that draft day is coming true ha

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:35 pm
by cazzie33
Rosen's a Rock Star... he doesn't need the guys in the band around for the party. There isn't any room left in the hot tub anyhow :snooty:

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:07 pm
by WhiskeyD32
DJB wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:31 am Owning the 1.04 (via trade) and 1.11 in a 2 QB league I am definitely keeping my eyes peeled on these QB's .

I like B Mayfield, but Rosen and Darnold ranked higher everywhere. L Jackson if he pans out probably has the highest fantasy ceiling I would think .

At this point I'm confused. Lol
I have the 1.3 and 1.10 in a 2qb. I’m really interested to see what happens with jackson myself. In the right spot I could see taking him at 3. The only hiccup for me would be if someone goes qb at 2 and Guice is there.

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:46 pm
by FiremanEd
I may be missing something with Guice, but I haven’t seen anything that makes him the clear 1.02 yet. I would not come anywhere close to 1.03 with Lamar Jackson...guy has legs but a questionable passing skill set. The risk is very high.

I admittedly need to watch more on the class, especially QB given it is so meticulous a position, but I think Mayfield is getting held down by the Manziel stigma based on size and attitude. He looks promising based on what I’ve seen. He’s easily in my mindset at 1.06 and beyond currently for Superflex drafts. He had solid ball placement, mobility, and a strong Winners resume. Size is minimized with a good OC, and attitude is overplayed, assuming he doesn’t have substance issues (no such reports to date).

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:56 pm
by AussieMate
FiremanEd wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:46 pm I may be missing something with Guice, but I haven’t seen anything that makes him the clear 1.02 yet. I would not come anywhere close to 1.03 with Lamar Jackson...guy has legs but a questionable passing skill set. The risk is very high.
Im with you Ed, watching tape of Guice and nothing popped for me. I've tried but he doesn't seem to do anything worth the 1.02, I've currently got Chubb and Sony Michael ahead of him. Lamar Jackson is growing on me but I still have a few worries, 1.03 is too early for him as well

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:05 pm
by Servo
Big week this week w/ Senior Bowl on Saturday:

Mayfield
Allen
Rudolph (injured)

https://twitter.com/KyleKellyCLE/status ... 3294716928

Allen now starting to sound like Kizer? :crazy:

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:22 pm
by DJB
If Todd Haley does end up in Cleveland i actually like the potential of whichever Qb they draft. Have to think they try and get Barkley at 4 too creating Cleveland version of Steelers Big Ben, Bell Brown trio.

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:48 pm
by Cult of Dionysus
Don't think Barkley will drop to 1.04. The Colts will take him at 1.03. It's the best way to help Andrew Luck, giving him a dangerous RB who will keep Ds honest and also a great pass catcher. Their o-line was as much a result of injuries as talent. If they get healthy and make a few good picks in the early rounds and maybe spend a bit in FA, they can shore up their o-line. With Luck, Hilton, Doyle and Barkley, that will be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Though knowing the Colts, they might trade their 1.03 for Philip Dorsett and the Patriots 1.32.

:lol:

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:49 pm
by DJB
Lol true. Logically Barkley does make sense to take pressure off of Luck and compensate for the oline

Re: 2018 Rookie QBs

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:13 pm
by ArrylT
Number of QBs in 1st Round

2017 - 3 (2, 10, 12) - Trubisky, Mahomes, Watson
2016 - 3 (1, 2, 26) - Goff, Wentz, Lynch
2015 - 2 (1, 2) - Winston, Mariota
2014 - 3 (3, 22, 32) - Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater
2013 - 1 (16) - EJ Manuel
2012 - 4 (1, 2, 8, 22) - Luck, RGIII, Tannehill, Weeden
2011 - 4 (1, 8, 10, 12) - Newton, Locker, Gabbert, Ponder
2010 - 2 (1, 25) - Bradford, Tebow
2009 - 3 (1, 5, 17) - Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman
2008 - 2 (3, 18) - Ryan, Flacco
2007 - 2 (1, 22) - Russell, Quinn
2006 - 3 (3, 10, 11) - Young, Leinart, Cutler
2005 - 3 (1, 24, 25) - Alex Smith, Rodgers, Campbell
2004 - 4 (1, 4, 11, 22) - Eli Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Losman
2003 - 4 (1, 7, 19, 22) - Palmer, Leftwich, Boller, Grossman
2002 - 3 (1, 3, 32) - Carr, Harrington, Ramsey
2001 - 1 (1) - Vick*
2000 - 1 (18) - Pennington
1999 - 5 (1, 2, 3, 11, 12) - Couch, McNabb, Akili Smith, Culpepper, Cade McNown
1998 - 2 (1, 2) - Peyton Manning, Leaf

Will be interesting to see if this is the first time in almost 20 years that 5 QBs go in the 1st round, or if it is more likely to be similar to one of the several 4 QB drafts

* - Brees was a 2nd round pick