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My top 50

Postby DinoDynasty » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:23 am

Bored at work, and wanted to see what other thoughts were on the top 50 (ppr) for a startup next year.
Here are mine, all thoughts are welcome.

Overall Rank Name
1 Hopkins
2 Zeke
3 Gurley
4 Evans
5 Bell
6 OBJ
7 AB
8 MT
9 S. Barkley (R)
10 Fournette
11 AJG
12 K Allen
13 Kamara
14 DJ
15 B Cooks
16 D. Adams
17 T. Hill
18 Cooper
19 D. Guice (R)
20 Hunt
21 Freeman
22 Julio
23 M. Gordon
24 A. Robinson
25 Gronk
26 J. Landry
27 J. Howard
28 A Thielen
29 JuJu Smith
30 TY Hilton
31 Kelce
32 R Wilson
33 A Jeffery
34 S Diggs
35 D Cook
36 C McCaffery
37 C Wentz
38 A Rodgers
39 C Davis
40 Mixon
41 Z Ertz
42 S Watkins
43 C Sutton (R)
44 D Baldwin
45 D Henry
46 M Ingram
47 J Gordon
48 K Benjamin
49 C Coleman
50 J. Washington (R)
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Stairway to Evans
QB: Hurts, Kirk, Bridgewater, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Pollard, Foreman,
Sanders, Hill
WR: Kupp, Evans, Ridley, Dell, Josh Palmer, Hodgins, Osborn, Parker, MVS
TE: Kelce, Musgrave, Otton, Gray, Woods
DEF: Chicago Ravens
2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th

12 Team .5 PPR
Fields of Dreams
QB - Fields, Cousins, Wilson
RB - Taylor, Swift, Mixon, Pollard, Singelary, McLaughlin
WR - Olave, Tyreek, Tank Dell, Higgins, Gabriel Davis, E Moore, Mingo, Douglas
TE - Ferguson, Gray, Otton
DEF - 49ers, Pats
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Re: My top 50

Postby Reljac » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:41 am

I think the rookies are awfully aggressively ranked. I like them as much as the next guy, but what is the upside if Barkley before he's drafted is valued at more than David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, and Fournette. I'd say at that price tag you just trade for the stud and win your league.
12-team Non-PPR QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, TE, K, DEF
QB: Herbert, Tanny
RB: Chubb, Stevenson, AJ Dillion
WR: AJ Brown, M Evans, M Williams, D London, C Olave, Jameson Williams, M Thomas
TE: D Njoku
K: Butker


2023: 1.01, 2.01
2024 early first, late first

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Re: My top 50

Postby skip » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:54 am

I hate lists like this and would never mix and match across positions if I used a ranking...just wanted to point out that in your post you note: "startup next year (excluding rookies)" and then included rookies.
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Re: My top 50

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:06 pm

evans over obj is a travesty
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: My top 50

Postby operwapitsai » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:07 pm

D. Adams is listed twice (16 & 24) Also surprised to not see Dez ranked, as over half the list is WR. Maybe change out the 2nd D. Adams with him :)

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Re: My top 50

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:13 pm

Here's my startup rankings with tier breaks just off the top of my head. Don't kill me if I missed someone important:

DeAndre Hopkins
Odell Beckham
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Todd Gurley
Ezekiel Elliott
David Johnson
Le'Veon Bell
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Mike Evans
Antonio Brown
Michael Thomas
Tyreek Hill
Keenan Allen
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Julio Jones
A.J. Green
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Dalvin Cook
Alvin Kamara
Kareem Hunt
Leonard Fournette
Melvin Gordon
Christian McCaffrey
Jordan Howard
Devonta Freeman
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Travis Kelce
Rob Gronkowski
Zach Ertz
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Davante Adams
Jarvis Landry
T.Y. Hilton
Doug Baldwin
Brandin Cooks
Stefon Diggs
Adam Thielen
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Derrick Henry
Alshon Jeffery
Sammy Watkins
Joe Mixon
Allen Robinson
Marvin Jones
Amari Cooper
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Russell Wilson
Aaron Rodgers
Mark Ingram
LeSean McCoy
Michael Crabtree
Golden Tate
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Corey Davis
Evan Engram
Hunter Henry
Cam Newton
Jordy Nelson
Greg Olsen
Dez Bryant
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Sterling Shepard
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: My top 50

Postby Friction » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:57 pm

Not sure if you were already low on DJ or if the injury made him plummet, but I would have him higher. A little high for me on Sutton and James Wash for sure, but I like the list. Everybody has their own preferences.
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TE: Henry

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Re: My top 50

Postby ESKAY » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:08 pm

I think he put DJ at 14 just to see if we are paying attention😂. I enjoy these just to see how people value players. But I worry about the guys coming back from ACL injuries. Dalvin And ARob are loved on this site like they never got injured. AP set the bar very high for all players returning from this injury.

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Re: My top 50

Postby Nanananananana » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:48 pm

ESKAY wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:08 pm I think he put DJ at 14 just to see if we are paying attention😂. I enjoy these just to see how people value players. But I worry about the guys coming back from ACL injuries. Dalvin And ARob are loved on this site like they never got injured. AP set the bar very high for all players returning from this injury.
Gurley has done alright after his ACL.

Tons of examples, I realize it's not a lock but these injuries are not what they once were.

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Re: My top 50

Postby Friction » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:46 am

ESKAY wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:08 pm I think he put DJ at 14 just to see if we are paying attention😂. I enjoy these just to see how people value players. But I worry about the guys coming back from ACL injuries. Dalvin And ARob are loved on this site like they never got injured. AP set the bar very high for all players returning from this injury.
I agree on those two guys also. I was a little lower on Cook anyways and the injury combined with surprising success of the Latavius/Jerrick combo confirms it to me. I also think that offense will struggle to duplicate its efficiency especially on 3rd downs, moving forward. ARob is tricky since Bortles again is teasing us with being good, they have a run game, and other receivers are playing well (Lee, Dede, Keelan). I have always soured on guys coming off injuries, but have tried to ease off somewhat with the successes of so many in recent years.
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RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry

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Re: My top 50

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:01 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:13 pm Here's my startup rankings with tier breaks just off the top of my head. Don't kill me if I missed someone important:

DeAndre Hopkins
Odell Beckham
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Todd Gurley
Ezekiel Elliott
David Johnson
Le'Veon Bell
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Mike Evans
Antonio Brown
Michael Thomas
Tyreek Hill
Keenan Allen
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Julio Jones
A.J. Green
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Dalvin Cook
Alvin Kamara
Kareem Hunt
Leonard Fournette
Melvin Gordon
Christian McCaffrey
Jordan Howard
Devonta Freeman
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Travis Kelce
Rob Gronkowski
Zach Ertz
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Davante Adams
Jarvis Landry
T.Y. Hilton
Doug Baldwin
Brandin Cooks
Stefon Diggs
Adam Thielen
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Derrick Henry
Alshon Jeffery
Sammy Watkins
Joe Mixon
Allen Robinson
Marvin Jones
Amari Cooper
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Russell Wilson
Aaron Rodgers
Mark Ingram
LeSean McCoy
Michael Crabtree
Golden Tate
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Corey Davis
Evan Engram
Hunter Henry
Cam Newton
Jordy Nelson
Greg Olsen
Dez Bryant
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Sterling Shepard
i like this list A LOT

would have juju ahead of jordy,olsen,dez though for sure in a dynasty ranking, also would have bladwin a bit lower.

overall this is real close to how i would order these players
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: My top 50

Postby M-Dub » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:35 pm

My main takeaway from this is that I need to go buy AB at a discount.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: My top 50

Postby Prickler » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:11 pm

Respect the effort and opinion so I'll add in my 2 cents...

-OBJ should never be outside the top 3 unless one of his limbs falls off.
-I have no idea why people are so high on J. Howard. He'll never be a 3 down back.
-K. Benjamin is still a thing?
-I think C. Davis should be higher. He's a stud.
-I own Kamara in 2 leagues. I should probably sell while the hype and efficiency is all time high.

Otherwise its a respectable list.

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Re: My top 50

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:02 pm

Assuming I'm in a startup for the '18 season and going forward:

1 OBJ
2 Hopkins
3 Zeke
4 Gurley
5 L Bell
6 Evans
7 Saquon
8 AB
9 AJG
10 Fournette
11 DJ
12 Julio
13 Kelce
14 M Thomas
15 K Allen
16 Hilton
17 Mixon
18 M Gordon
19 K Hunt
20 Tyreek
21 Kamara
22 D Cook
23 AROB
24 B Cooks
25 Diggs
26 Freeman
27 Gronk
28 Landry
29 Guice
30 Ertz
31 Ajayi
32 Rodgers
33 Thielen
34 A Cooper
35 Sammy W
36 D Adams
37 Alshon
38 Dez
39 CMC
40 Engram
41 C Davis
42 Wentz
43 JuJu
44 R Wilson
45 Luck
46 Baldwin
47 D Watson
48 D Thomas
49 Hyde
50 Hunter H
51 J Howard
52 D Henry
53 Shady
54 Crowder
55 Shepard
56 Funchess
57 D Parker
58 G Tate
59 M Ingram
60 L Miller
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA

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Re: My top 50

Postby James McGhee » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:08 pm

Ingram gets no respect. He can run between tackles, has good hands and can pass block. He's improved his finish each of the past four seasons (including this one) and is 28. Yeah, yeah...I know for some of y'all that's ancient but I see a guy in his prime on a team that just had a run first renaissance. Criminally underrated here. I'll take Ingram at 59 over Saquon at 7 all day.
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QB/RB/2 WR/TE/2 FLX/K/DEF

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Mark Ingram, Kerryon Johnson, Rashaad Penny, Ronald Jones
AJ Green, Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, Marvin Jones, Golden Tate, Keelan Cole
Rob Gronkowski
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12 team league; 30-man roster; full PPR
QB/2 RB/2 WR/TE/3 FLX

Rodgers, Goff, Carr
Bell, J. Stewart, Foreman, Perine
Hopkins, K. Allen, Cooks, Hurns, Kupp, Lee, C. Samuel, Patterson, Taywan Taylor
Howard, Hooper, S. Anderson


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