2017 Draft Class Revisited

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2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby kamihamster » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:08 pm

Take what you know today and hop in your time machine to your rookie draft. What would your top 24 look like? Here's mine as of now...flame away.
  • 1.01 - Kamara
    1.02 - Fournette
    1.03 - Cook
    1.04 - Smith-Schuster
    1.05 - McCaffery
    1.06 - Davis
    1.07 - Engram
    1.08 - Mixon
    1.09 - Hunt
    1.10 - Kupp
    1.11 - Howard
    1.12 - Watson
    2.01 - Z Jones
    2.02 - Perine
    2.03 - Foreman
    2.04 - Njoku
    2.05 - A Jones
    2.06 - Ja Williams
    2.07 - M Williams
    2.08 - Samuel
    2.09 - Golladay
    2.10 - Ross
    2.11 - Mack
    2.12 - K Williams
NTL (est 2016): (8-0)
12-team, PPR, 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1FLX
QB: A.Rodgers, D.Jones
RB: A.Kamara, K.Johnson, K.Drake, Da.Henderson, C.Anderson, K.Ballage, T.Montgomery, J.Wilson, D.Ogunbowale, Dw.Washington, J.Kelly, P.Perkins, A.Blue
WR: O.Beckham, D.Hopkins, C.Kupp, D.Chark, R.Foster, A.Wilson, J.Reynolds, S.Morgan, B.Pringle, O.Johnson, D.Williams, D.Willis
TE: J.Cook, M.Andrews, A.Shaheen, B.Jarwin
2020 Picks: 3, 4
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4

Home League (est 2014): 2018 Champ (6-2)
12-team, NPPR-6ptTD, 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,2FLX,1K,1DST,4IDP
QB: P.Mahomes, J.Goff
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, M.Breida, S.Michel, F.Gore, D.Guice, K.Ballage, D.Ogunbowale, R.Bonnafon, J.Scarlett, W.Gallman, J.Kelly, J.Wilson
WR: D.Adams, J.Smith-Schuster, T.Boyd, A.Robinson, L.Fitzgerald, Jo.Brown, M.Valdes-Scantiling, K.Harmon, Z.Pascal
TE: E.Engram, A.Hooper
DST: NOS
K: W.Lutz
2020 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby BeeziBad » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:21 pm

even in standard, i might take watson a little higher.
The Mega Powers - 12Team - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - 1PPR
QB - R. Tannehill, T. Bridgewater
RB - J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, C. Akers, Z. Moss, R. Jones, R. Armstead, M. Davis, C. Edmonds
WR - J. Jeudy, H. Ruggs, T. Higgins, L. Shenault, C. Claypool, J. Reagor, C. Davis, J. Washington, B. Aiyuk, Q. Cephus, KJ Hamler, A. Lazard
TE - C. Herndon, D. Sample
Picks - 2021 - 1, 1, 1

Jabroni Beaters - 10Team - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - NONPPR
QB - P. Mahomes B. Mayfield
RB - S. Barkley, E. Elliott, JK Dobbins, A. Peterson, M. Breida, D. Freeman
WR - T. Hill. AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Jefferson, J. Edelman, B. Aiyuk, L. Shenault, JJAW, B. Edwards
TE - Z. Ertz, H. Hurst, J. Smith

SuperSonics - 10Team - 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - .5 PPR
QB - S. Darnold, R. Tannehill, C. Newton
RB - E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Cook, R. Jones, A. Peterson
WR - T. Hill, O. Beckham, D. Metcalf, C. Davis, H. Renfrow, R. Cobb
TE - Z. Ertz, E. Engram, H. Henry, J. Smith, K. Rudolph
Picks - 2020 - 2.7
2021 - 2, 3

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby Generic Username » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:31 pm

How does Smith-Schuster jump ahead of Hunt?

ETA: Or Engram and Mixon, either?

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby Goddard » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:43 pm

I wouldn't put Zay ahead of Mike Williams. There are other changes I would make as well, but that seemed like the biggest one. Thanks for sharing though, takes a lot of guts to put that out there and hear all the arguments.

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby kamihamster » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:58 pm

I admit I may be overly high on JuJu, but he's the youngest player in the league and has already shown he can compete. He took the job from Martavis who I also valued highly. On top of that, he was a high devy pick. So he's got the combo of pedigree and shown enough that I feel okay moving him as far up as I did. It's a liquid document, so I'll probably move him down and he'll settle around where the community values him.

For Mike Williams, I fear he is more Kevin White than Josh Doctson. Back problems dont really get better, and all the hush hush about his knee makes me think it could be pretty serious. I also admit he's probably ranked too low, but I dont like players that are always hurt and strip a lot of value off of them if I think they are injury prone.
NTL (est 2016): (8-0)
12-team, PPR, 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1FLX
QB: A.Rodgers, D.Jones
RB: A.Kamara, K.Johnson, K.Drake, Da.Henderson, C.Anderson, K.Ballage, T.Montgomery, J.Wilson, D.Ogunbowale, Dw.Washington, J.Kelly, P.Perkins, A.Blue
WR: O.Beckham, D.Hopkins, C.Kupp, D.Chark, R.Foster, A.Wilson, J.Reynolds, S.Morgan, B.Pringle, O.Johnson, D.Williams, D.Willis
TE: J.Cook, M.Andrews, A.Shaheen, B.Jarwin
2020 Picks: 3, 4
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4

Home League (est 2014): 2018 Champ (6-2)
12-team, NPPR-6ptTD, 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,2FLX,1K,1DST,4IDP
QB: P.Mahomes, J.Goff
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, M.Breida, S.Michel, F.Gore, D.Guice, K.Ballage, D.Ogunbowale, R.Bonnafon, J.Scarlett, W.Gallman, J.Kelly, J.Wilson
WR: D.Adams, J.Smith-Schuster, T.Boyd, A.Robinson, L.Fitzgerald, Jo.Brown, M.Valdes-Scantiling, K.Harmon, Z.Pascal
TE: E.Engram, A.Hooper
DST: NOS
K: W.Lutz
2020 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:21 pm

Here's where I'm at right now...

1.01 Fournette
1.02 Cook
1.03 Kamara
1.04 Hunt
1.05 Mixon
1.06 Davis
1.07 Engram
1.08 JuJu
1.09 CMC
1.10 M. Williams
1.11 Kupp
1.12 Watson
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2.01 Njoku
2.02 O. Howard
2.03 A. Jones
2.04 Golladay
2.05 Foreman
2.06 Mack
2.07 J. Ross
2.08 Perine
2.09 Z. Jones
2.10 T. Taylor
2.11 Westbrook
2.12 Godwin
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3.01 Ekeler
3.02 Trubisky
3.03 Jamaal Williams
3.04 Everett
3.05 Carson
3.06 Jonnu
3.07 Kittle
3.08 J. Reynolds
3.09 Cohen
3.10 Kizer
3.11 Mahomes
3.12 Samuel
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:51 pm

1.01 - Kamara
1.02 - McCaffrey
1.03 - Cook
1.04 - Fournette
1.05 - Hunt
1.06 - JuJu
1.07 - Davis
1.08 - Mixon
1.09 - Engram
1.10 - Perine
1.11 - Foreman
1.12 - Watson
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:14 pm

1.01 - Kamara
1.02 - Fournette
1.03 - Cook
1.04 - Davis
1.05 - JuJu
1.06 - Mixon
1.07 - Engram
1.08 - Hunt
1.09 - McCaf
1.10 - Watson
1.11 - Howard
1.12 - Kupp
2.01 - M Williams
2.02 - Perine
2.03 - Foreman
2.04 - Njoku

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby DynastyDeepDive » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:32 pm

If Mahomes played this year he'd be included in these lists. Can't wait to see what he brings to the table next year.
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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:11 pm

Can someone make a legitmate case as to why Alvin Kamara should be the 1.01 (even in hindsight)? Yes, he's been a HUGE producer this season, but this is still dynasty. Why is it smart to value Kamara at unsustainable production? My main concern would be whether he could actually be a workhorse RB and continue to be really productive. We haven't seen him in that type of role in college or as a rookie. His talent is definitely higher than I thought, but it seems strange to believe that he's going to keep this up long-term.

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby bdynomite » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:31 pm

Round 1:
1.01 - Fournette
1.02 - Mixon
1.03 - Kamara
1.04 - Cook
1.05 - CMC
1.06 - Davis
1.07 - Hunt
1.08 - Engram
1.09 - Watson
1.10 - JuJu
1.11 - M. Williams
1.12 - Kupp
Round 2:
2.01 - Howard
2.02 - Foreman
2.03 - Perine
2.04 - Njoku
2.05 - Z. Jones
2.06 - Samuel
2.07 - Ross
2.08 - A. Jones
2.09 - Mahomes
2.10 - Golladay
2.11 - Cohen
2.12 - Mack
Round 3:
3.01 - Shaheen
3.02 - Trubisky
3.03 - Seals-Jones
3.04 - Westbrook
3.05 - Carson
3.06 - Godwin
3.07 - J. Williams
3.08 - Taylor
3.09 - Kizer
3.10 - Stewart
3.11 - Pumphrey
3.12 - Webb

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby Rasorin » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:39 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:11 pm Can someone make a legitmate case as to why Alvin Kamara should be the 1.01 (even in hindsight)? Yes, he's been a HUGE producer this season, but this is still dynasty. Why is it smart to value Kamara at unsustainable production? My main concern would be whether he could actually be a workhorse RB and continue to be really productive. We haven't seen him in that type of role in college or as a rookie. His talent is definitely higher than I thought, but it seems strange to believe that he's going to keep this up long-term.
With about 40% timeshare at RB he is a top 3 RB. He is averaging over 8 yards per touch and ranks first in broken tackles. While it is tantalizing to think what he could do with 20+ touches per game he doesn't even need that to be elite. Let's say they keep him at 50% timeshare and he averages 20pts a game. Ridiculous. He's almost like a WR with his touches/targets with a huge floor and massive ceiling. Current production is elite and ceiling is super elite. He breaks the mold so I understand hesitancy but he's been as consistent as any player in the game.

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby Goddard » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:42 pm

Kamara is basically what everyone hoped CMC would be.

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby kamihamster » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:42 pm

Here's my thoughts:
Kamara is in a RBBC currently and despite that is a RB1. He is in the perfect fit for his skill set. If his situation improves I expect his efficiency to go down, but overall his production to go up. While he has never been the workhorse in his career, that doesn't mean he can't--he has a decent physical profile that says he can do it. Lastly I watched him play, and he's just got 'it'.
NTL (est 2016): (8-0)
12-team, PPR, 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1FLX
QB: A.Rodgers, D.Jones
RB: A.Kamara, K.Johnson, K.Drake, Da.Henderson, C.Anderson, K.Ballage, T.Montgomery, J.Wilson, D.Ogunbowale, Dw.Washington, J.Kelly, P.Perkins, A.Blue
WR: O.Beckham, D.Hopkins, C.Kupp, D.Chark, R.Foster, A.Wilson, J.Reynolds, S.Morgan, B.Pringle, O.Johnson, D.Williams, D.Willis
TE: J.Cook, M.Andrews, A.Shaheen, B.Jarwin
2020 Picks: 3, 4
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4

Home League (est 2014): 2018 Champ (6-2)
12-team, NPPR-6ptTD, 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,2FLX,1K,1DST,4IDP
QB: P.Mahomes, J.Goff
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, M.Breida, S.Michel, F.Gore, D.Guice, K.Ballage, D.Ogunbowale, R.Bonnafon, J.Scarlett, W.Gallman, J.Kelly, J.Wilson
WR: D.Adams, J.Smith-Schuster, T.Boyd, A.Robinson, L.Fitzgerald, Jo.Brown, M.Valdes-Scantiling, K.Harmon, Z.Pascal
TE: E.Engram, A.Hooper
DST: NOS
K: W.Lutz
2020 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: 2017 Draft Class Revisited

Postby gameaholica » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:00 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:11 pm Can someone make a legitmate case as to why Alvin Kamara should be the 1.01 (even in hindsight)? Yes, he's been a HUGE producer this season, but this is still dynasty. Why is it smart to value Kamara at unsustainable production? My main concern would be whether he could actually be a workhorse RB and continue to be really productive. We haven't seen him in that type of role in college or as a rookie. His talent is definitely higher than I thought, but it seems strange to believe that he's going to keep this up long-term.
For me, he reminds me of Lesean McCoy. So much of his production is in the passing game, which to me translates to less wear and tear longevity wise.
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QB: Mahomes | Stafford | Mayfield
RB: Barkely | Henry | Etienne | Akers | Penny |
WR: Thomas | Bateman | Pittman | Metchie | Shaheed | W. Robinson
TE: Dulcich | Kincaid | Latu
Start: QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-TE-Flex-Flex-K-DEF

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QB: J Allen | Stafford |
RB: J.Williams | J Taylor | Mostert | Herbert | Hall | Tucker | Charbonnet
WR: Chase | AJ Brown | Mims | JSN | Metchie | W Robinson
TE: Engram | LaPorta | Pitts | Latu | Ferguson
Start: QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-TE-FLEX-K-DEF


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