Benefits of same team QB/RB
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Benefits of same team QB/RB
We always here of a QB/WR combo from the same team but am wondering how this works for QB/RB? Any advantages or disadvantages to your roster doing this. Would love insight from all who want to answer.
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
While a QB/WR can benefit one another (one passes/one catches), it's rare for a QB/RB to do the same as typically if a RB scores a TD, it negates a QB from scoring one. For pass catching RB's there can be some benefit, but not as direct as a QB/WR combo and more often than not, their scoring will come at the other's expense.
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
QB/RB is more of an either/or, which gives you a high floor and low ceiling. If one of them gets hurt it could negatively affect the other, and if that team plays a top defense it can hurt both at once, but generally if one has a bad game the other should make up for it.
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I think the QB/WR thing is overrated. I just want the best players possible on my team. Same goes for QB/RB or any other combination of players.
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
Agreed. It's only dangerous when you have something going on like Brady-Moss, or Stafford-Megatron.
I can't imagine QB/RB being a dangerous stack at all, but if both players are really good, who cares?
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It's case by case. If you own bell and Ben or dj and Carson, then you're good. Even dak zeke will have solid games together.
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
I've managed to have a team that is starting Ryan Freeman and Julio. Kinda nervous to see if that bites me
Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
If there is such a thing as an urban myth in fantasy football it is that a combo of any kind is beneficial. You will definitely have some good games along the way but also weeks where when they have a bad game your team is toast.
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
Avoid it. Fantasy football, at its most basic, is about a high floor and a high ceiling. QB/RB lowers both the floor AND the ceiling (as does RB/WR).
QB/WR lowers the floor but elevates the ceiling -- I can live with that.
QB/WR lowers the floor but elevates the ceiling -- I can live with that.
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
+1moishetreats wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:07 pm Avoid it. Fantasy football, at its most basic, is about a high floor and a high ceiling. QB/RB lowers both the floor AND the ceiling (as does RB/WR).
QB/WR lowers the floor but elevates the ceiling -- I can live with that.
Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
I've always felt like this, a player is going to score whatever fantasy points he scores. It doesn't matter if you stack them or not, ARod is going to score as QB1 and Jordy will score as WR1. So if u feel better owning both, go for it. If not, Julio will score like a WR1 too, so pair him with Rodgers. Any way you want to slice it, it won't change the final numbers.
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
Totally agree. It makes sense in DFS. You are hoping for everybody to blow up in one week, and stacks help you reduce the number of circumstances needed for that to happen. But in dynasty, the downside of having them both suck together will even out the benefit of them blowing up together.
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
There has been a lot of DFS research regarding this. It's normally a negative correlation to have both QB and RB from same team. It limits you total point upside. Just think about the RB vulturing TDs from the QB or vice versa. You could argue that maybe Bell and Johnson help their QB a little, but for the most part it has the opposite effect.
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If you are grabbing a top scoring offense then go for it.
Any offensive middle of the pack (or lower) team I would avoid it where possible but certainly not a avoid at all costs situation
Any offensive middle of the pack (or lower) team I would avoid it where possible but certainly not a avoid at all costs situation
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Re: Benefits of same team QB/RB
yes, part of the theory in DFS in to stack QB/WR or TE... (but this a one time match-up in a slate, not a full season)
RBs usually correlate to DST .. so if you think PIT is worth playing and game script favors the PIT defense you should play LeVeon Bell .. might be an extreme choice there .. but it goes with game script ..
The question for long term Dyansty and QB/WR combos is that I usually do target the WR of my back up QB for matchup stacks .. Say if I had DeVante Parker on my roster and usually roll with Rodgers, I'd certainly go after Cutler to stack with Parker and be watchful for great match-up opportunities .. or same with TE, if I had Kelce, I certainly mind having A Smith as a back-up .. think you get the idea, I do like correlation plays, but I still want the best players on my roster..
So in a way, I've combined the DFS theory with some of my Dynasty long term strategy .. might be a bit of edge to see what kind of strength of schedule lesser valued players have with strong correlation plays that can be cheap to supplement your strong overall roster... This really paid off for me last year while Rodgers was struggling and I had Phillip Rivers and Tyrell Williams/A Gates .. really won me a few match-ups I might have otherwise lost
But for QB/RB a correlation would only really exist for pass catching back .. doesn't make much sense for the RB to have a great game would be that he requires more volume and vice versa .. DFS players will play QB/RB stacks but usually only to get unique ownership in tourney plays ..
RBs usually correlate to DST .. so if you think PIT is worth playing and game script favors the PIT defense you should play LeVeon Bell .. might be an extreme choice there .. but it goes with game script ..
The question for long term Dyansty and QB/WR combos is that I usually do target the WR of my back up QB for matchup stacks .. Say if I had DeVante Parker on my roster and usually roll with Rodgers, I'd certainly go after Cutler to stack with Parker and be watchful for great match-up opportunities .. or same with TE, if I had Kelce, I certainly mind having A Smith as a back-up .. think you get the idea, I do like correlation plays, but I still want the best players on my roster..
So in a way, I've combined the DFS theory with some of my Dynasty long term strategy .. might be a bit of edge to see what kind of strength of schedule lesser valued players have with strong correlation plays that can be cheap to supplement your strong overall roster... This really paid off for me last year while Rodgers was struggling and I had Phillip Rivers and Tyrell Williams/A Gates .. really won me a few match-ups I might have otherwise lost
But for QB/RB a correlation would only really exist for pass catching back .. doesn't make much sense for the RB to have a great game would be that he requires more volume and vice versa .. DFS players will play QB/RB stacks but usually only to get unique ownership in tourney plays ..
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