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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby maxhyde » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:32 am

BuckeyeNation wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:04 am
LOL, one of the few spots Watkins could go that I think is actually a downgrade from where he was.
Possibly but I don't think so...all his home games are warm weather and Taylor is a better fantasy QB but is he a better QB? I think McVey will find ways to get Sammy involved.
Besides Goff looked bad in an unwinnable situation...terrible line and poor receiving options
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby ImaRounder » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:34 am

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I don't own any shares of Goff or Watkins (in any of my 15 leagues), but I really think the Goff hate is a bit out of control. He and Wentz were the consensus 1/2 QBs in some order, Wentz just got lucky going to an offensive minded team and coach. Goff got to go to a team that had a terrible HC and a first time (and terrible) OC. I know we expect instant results anymore, but are we really just giving up on a QB going into his second season? His coaches improved, his OL improved, his WRs improved, his pass catching TEs improved, he still has a very talented RB behind him and a decent defense. This scheme and this coach made Kirk Cousins a very rich man, and I am not giving up hope that he could do the same with Goff.
Do people really think Goff is trash? Pretty hard to even evaluate him last year considering defenses knew every single time he was going to throw.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Fantasyfanatic11 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:34 am

So what are the updated WR situations now?

Buffalo: Matthews, Z.Jones and Boldin. (Matthews & Jones outside and Boldin in slot, or Matthews and Boldin swap)
Philly: Alshon, T.Smith and Agholor (Seems like Agholor is slot guy after Matthews got moved)
Rams: Sammy, Woods and Tavon (Tavon the obvious choice for slot)
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby ninotoreS » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:36 am

Fantasyfanatic11 wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:34 am
Rams: Sammy, Woods and Tavon (Tavon the obvious choice for slot)
Kupp will start over Austin. Put me on record.

That the Rams were even trying to make Austin an outside-receiver is itself the red-flag that McVay doesn't really want him. Kupp has been awesome all offseason in training with the Rams and dueling directly with Trumaine Johnson, while Austin has been sidelined. Writing is on the wall.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby saw061600 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:49 am

This is what happens when I'm away from my computer all day. Goff was dropped in one league last week; bid in. Boldin was still available in 2 leagues; don't need a WR but bid in. Just offered DAdams+Perkins for Gurley (he's down on Rams); praying he hasn't seen the news. Owner is already looking it over.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby murphysxm » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:37 am

joeday wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:30 am
I don't own any shares of Goff or Watkins (in any of my 15 leagues), but I really think the Goff hate is a bit out of control. He and Wentz were the consensus 1/2 QBs in some order, Wentz just got lucky going to an offensive minded team and coach. Goff got to go to a team that had a terrible HC and a first time (and terrible) OC. I know we expect instant results anymore, but are we really just giving up on a QB going into his second season? His coaches improved, his OL improved, his WRs improved, his pass catching TEs improved, he still has a very talented RB behind him and a decent defense. This scheme and this coach made Kirk Cousins a very rich man, and I am not giving up hope that he could do the same with Goff.
I completely agree with this.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby StableOfRBs » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:41 am

maxhyde wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:32 am
BuckeyeNation wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:04 am
LOL, one of the few spots Watkins could go that I think is actually a downgrade from where he was.
Possibly but I don't think so...all his home games are warm weather and Taylor is a better fantasy QB but is he a better QB? I think McVey will find ways to get Sammy involved.
Besides Goff looked bad in an unwinnable situation...terrible line and poor receiving options
I do think Goff is better than he showed last year but this is still a huge issue, gonna be tough to get the ball downfield to Watkins with no time to throw and if Watkins gets used as a short-mid possession guy he's gonna take a pounding and his health will suffer, I've got faith that McVey has a plan and Watkins is miles better than anyone Goff had last year but that line is gonna cause a lot of problems for that team
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby toss » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:42 am

Sammy's main issue is still going to be his health. With the new regime in LA I don't see how this is considered a downgrade, assuming he can stay healthy. They desperately needed that WR1 player as Woods and Austin don't fit that mold, can't write Goff off yet. If anything it's a lateral move with the upside of Sammy staying healthy for 16 games.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby RightlegTucker » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:52 am

Watkins finally gets out of Buffalo but inexplicably winds up in an even worse situation :doh:

Hopefully he walks next season, or Goff takes a major step forward in his development.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby maxhyde » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:04 pm

StableOfRBs wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:41 am
maxhyde wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:32 am
BuckeyeNation wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:04 am
LOL, one of the few spots Watkins could go that I think is actually a downgrade from where he was.
Possibly but I don't think so...all his home games are warm weather and Taylor is a better fantasy QB but is he a better QB? I think McVey will find ways to get Sammy involved.
Besides Goff looked bad in an unwinnable situation...terrible line and poor receiving options
I do think Goff is better than he showed last year but this is still a huge issue, gonna be tough to get the ball downfield to Watkins with no time to throw and if Watkins gets used as a short-mid possession guy he's gonna take a pounding and his health will suffer, I've got faith that McVey has a plan and Watkins is miles better than anyone Goff had last year but that line is gonna cause a lot of problems for that team
They replaced Greg Robinson with Andrew Whitworth at LT...even if the rest of the line is the same that is a MASSIVE improvement. Like going from not having a LT to having one.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Plank » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:32 pm

I hope I am not too late, I would HATE to miss the montage of Watkins and Woods playing together.. Reunited again, and it feels so good ...

I purposely acquired Tyrod where I had Watkins for those one or two weeks he was healthy with a great match-up, was like a secret Dynasty stack play I had all worked out... but now...

Is Goff smart? Can he hold up and take a hit, seems a bit weak to me in a Chris Simms kind of way.. I mean arm talent aside, seems he isn't very well liked..
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby A-train » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:34 pm

I drafted Goff and Watkins in my 16 team Superflex. So now I hope this helps both of them.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Servo » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:46 pm

Tavon needs to go, unfathomable that the Rams didn't force him to restructure his contract already.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby John Paul » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:26 pm

Sammy would be Garcon, Tavon as DJax, Kupp as Crowder and Woods as Grant maybe. Everett was definitely drafted for a Reed-like role. I'm a believer in McVay and if the OL improves, then I'm buying some of these players because they are cheap.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby clarion contrarion » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:30 pm

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