The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby maxhyde » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:51 pm

Why is MW being labelled as athletically challenged? Just curious because I see it said alot but I don't see him as athletically 'less' than many 6'4 220lb WR's.
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby ninotoreS » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:38 am

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/mike-williams/
https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/aj-green/
https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/alshon-jeffery/
https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/mike-evans/

See it now? These are the players Williams seems to get compared to a lot, but athletically they are all distinctly superior.
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby clarion contrarion » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:45 am

much rather have tyrell williams than mike williams or allen for the cost to acquire for next couple years at least.
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby Goirish374 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:21 pm

How heretical is it to challenge the word "still?"
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby tjgalati » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:41 pm

i was staring at him just now in my rookie draft at 1.8. I traded it back to 1.11 and 2.2. I got him at 1.11. So stoked. BTW, my draft went..

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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby AZK » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:07 pm

^ Is there something we are missing here. Keeper league or something, thats ridiculous. Good for you though.
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby Goddard » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:36 pm

tjgalati wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:41 pm i was staring at him just now in my rookie draft at 1.8. I traded it back to 1.11 and 2.2. I got him at 1.11. So stoked. BTW, my draft went..

CMC
LF
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Mixon
Davis
OJ
Hunt
Perine
Ross
Kamara
MWill
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby ninotoreS » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:02 pm

It isn't that bad. Rookies are always much more of a crapshoot than the hype would have us believe each and every off-season.
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby AZK » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:08 pm

The number 7 pick going after the numer 114 is pretty bad no matter how you value rookies
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby tjgalati » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:07 pm

I know right? We have some sharks, but also some bait. I also traded Ingram, Marshall, 2.2 and 2018 2nd for Mixon + 2.11 (I heart Mixon) and then picked up foreman at 2.5. Im sooo stoked.

Thinking Samuel > Godwin > Golladay @ 2.11 after 2 more picks.

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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby ninotoreS » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:41 am

Neight wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:08 pm The number 7 pick going after the numer 114 is pretty bad no matter how you value rookies
Remember Tyreek Hill's start-up ADP last year? Did he even have an ADP?

What was OBJ's start-up ADP when he missed all of his rookie training-camp with that hamstring injury, do you think? What did it end up becoming after the season?

Do you see my point?

With rookie ADP in start-ups, the vagaries of fate love to make us look like fools in hindsight. The bottom-line is that none of these guys have actually played an NFL down yet. I'm not suggesting ADP for rookies is pointless, not at all, but neither should it be treated like gospel, and its violators decried as heretics.

Perine is quite a reach in their draft, but hey, if it ends up that we're getting back the '14 version of Perine as a pro, then suddenly he isn't a reach at all there. You know?
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby AZK » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:39 pm

I really don't see your point. You started with rookies are a crapshoot. Then brought up rookie value in start-up ADP and then used OBJ and Hill to prove something I'm not sure of. So consider me confused on your point.

OBJ and the 2014 draft would seem to prove the point of drafting limited RBs over WRs that were drafted highly.
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby Goirish374 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:44 pm

Neight wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:08 pm The number 7 pick
Wait, number 7 pick on who's board?
Not mine.
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby AZK » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:06 pm

Goirish374 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:44 pm
Neight wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:08 pm The number 7 pick
Wait, number 7 pick on who's board?
Not mine.
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Re: Is Mike Williams still the 1.06?

Postby Goirish374 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:19 pm

Heh, that's cute.
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