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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby TurtleBK » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:22 am

I agree with most all of the stuff above, including the negative stuff on Funchess. Just wanted to see where guys were on him. He's still 22, and while it's not an easy fix it isn't impossible. Cam isn't Tom Brady out there either. We'll see. I never drafted him as a rookie but given the draft capital and the fact that everyone knew he was a massive project when he came out, I think he has a long enough leash and enough size and youth that he is interesting at his current market price. I mean hell, he's younger than most rookies and barring a round 1 or 2 draft pick at WR (most are projecting an early RB, which would help the passing game) he looks like the starter across from the oft-injured Benjamin so I'll pick up a cheap share here or there.

I really like Boyd and agree with the above that he seems likely to progress into a 70/950/7 kind of guy good for a WR2/3 with some upside from there. Love his college production, and think he is really cheap where he is right now.

And regarding the last post -- all of these guys are cheap for a reason, but some reasons are better than others. I think Treadwell is massively talented, and think he is cheap the same way Jadeveon Clowney would have been cheap a year or two ago. Frankly I love Stefon Diggs and can't help but appreciate the fact that Adam Thielen is actually a really good player, but Treadwell has some nasty upside. I'm looking forward to seeing how that situation plays out.

DGB would have been a good addition to this list. He was very inefficient last year, albeit in a new, gimmicky-as-hell offense with a rookie QB and clunky offensive personnel management. Rumors of him frequenting night clubs and not being a hard worker are the tough part for me. If that kid put as much effort in the game as he has athleticism he'd be a stud anywhere. He did very well for the Titans his rookie year and physically is just a grown bleep man. It's too bad really. I'll be watching to see who he starts the season with, and hoping someone kicks him in the butt in the meantime.

Chris Conley is another guy I think is interesting. He's progressed on the field in the last two seasons and while that passing offense sucks, I'll be watching to see what he looks like this year. 4.31 wheels, solid hands, and raw coming out, he's got the tools and the character to become a real player, and his arrow is pointing surely, albeit not steeply, northward.
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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby notorioustot » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:26 pm

I am actually down to final cuts for Team 2 in Sig (12 Team League) and it is down to Funchess v. DGB.

I am leaning towards Funchess due to ease of path to playing time as the #2, but DGB was my 1.10 and he clearly has more talent.

Who do you cut?
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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:53 pm

notorioustot wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:26 pm I am actually down to final cuts for Team 2 in Sig (12 Team League) and it is down to Funchess v. DGB.

I am leaning towards Funchess due to ease of path to playing time as the #2, but DGB was my 1.10 and he clearly has more talent.

Who do you cut?
Funchess at least has a path to possible relevance.
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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:56 pm

notorioustot wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:26 pm I am actually down to final cuts for Team 2 in Sig (12 Team League) and it is down to Funchess v. DGB.

I am leaning towards Funchess due to ease of path to playing time as the #2, but DGB was my 1.10 and he clearly has more talent.

Who do you cut?
Funchess, and pretty easily. He at least has a path to relevance and doesn't have a team that's already given up on him. DGB has 4 WR's in front of him. If he makes the roster, he probably won't play much, if at all.

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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby btv802 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:25 am

Bought him for 3.06 this offseason.
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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby ChuckCecil26 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:39 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:47 pm How did Tyler Boyd underachieve last year? Sure, he didn't ball out when AJG went down, but he's not that type of player. He's a reliable slot guy, who can probably follow JMatt's footsteps as a WR2/3 in PPR
Agree. Boyd is Crowder 2.0. Will be a valuable WR3 in fantasy. Compare stats from their rookie seasons:

Crowder 59-604-2

Boyd 54-603-1

Crowder got better press after his rookie year because he was a 4th round pick so very little had been expected from him.
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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby broncohead » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:00 pm

He holds no value to me. I inherited him on a terrible team and tried unloading him with no takers. I'll likely just cut him before the draft.
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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby Tsunami » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:00 am

I would keep DGB. Funchess will never be fast, DGB might grow up in a few years.

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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby MARKinMI » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:34 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:07 am
MARKinMI wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:24 am I'm a Michigan Fan who watched every snap he played in college. I'm of the opinion that he isnt very good. He doesn't have the athleticism to play WR on the outside and isnt strong enough to play TE. Couple that with his lack of natural catching ability and I'm going nowhere near him.
He's bigger and more athletic than Mike Williams, that's a misguided argument imo.

He disappointed last season for sure, but he's not even 23 yet and is a positional convert. I'm willing to give him a long leash.
Not really a position convert. He only played TE briefly at Michigan and even then they didnt line him up on the LOS very often. He was too big of a blocking liability. That was his scouting report going into his draft year. Many thought he was too weak to play TE and lacked the Athletic ability to win on the outside vs NFL corners. He was labeled a "tweener"

Fact: He was such a poor blocker in college Michigan was forced to move him from TE to WR. His freshman year he was able to gain separation as a TE going against college LB's and Safeties. Once he was moved to the WR he struggled. My critique of Funchess isn't anything new. Many people much smarter than I have been saying it for years. That's basically the book on him. I honestly think the only people who talk Funchess up or cling on to him are the people who own him in dynasty and are trying to inflate his value. He's had two years with a more than adequate NFL QB and very little competition on the WR depth chart and hasn't shown much of anything. As a Michigan fan I'd love to see the kid succeed (its good for recruiting) but I think it's highly unlikely it happens.

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Re: Devin Funchess

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:21 am

MARKinMI wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:34 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:07 am
MARKinMI wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:24 am I'm a Michigan Fan who watched every snap he played in college. I'm of the opinion that he isnt very good. He doesn't have the athleticism to play WR on the outside and isnt strong enough to play TE. Couple that with his lack of natural catching ability and I'm going nowhere near him.
He's bigger and more athletic than Mike Williams, that's a misguided argument imo.

He disappointed last season for sure, but he's not even 23 yet and is a positional convert. I'm willing to give him a long leash.
Not really a position convert. He only played TE briefly at Michigan and even then they didnt line him up on the LOS very often. He was too big of a blocking liability. That was his scouting report going into his draft year. Many thought he was too weak to play TE and lacked the Athletic ability to win on the outside vs NFL corners. He was labeled a "tweener"

Fact: He was such a poor blocker in college Michigan was forced to move him from TE to WR. His freshman year he was able to gain separation as a TE going against college LB's and Safeties. Once he was moved to the WR he struggled. My critique of Funchess isn't anything new. Many people much smarter than I have been saying it for years. That's basically the book on him.
WR is a very nuanced position. He certainly is a positional convert. Just because he wasn't lined up on the LOS and blocking every play doesn't mean he was a WR doing WR things. Running a seam route 20 times a game is not being a WR. There's a subtle difference here that you're not picking up on.

I wouldn't really call 49 catches for 748 yards and 6 td's as a sophomore struggling. Or is it your contention he was moved to WR his Junior year.


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