Consensus number one (2017) draft?
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Re: Consensus number one (2017) draft?
Probably Fournette for me (non ppr).
Mixon could roll into the top 5, assuming the release of his video doesn't damage him too much. His stats likely would have been ridiculous if not for Perine being so good as well. His team situation will be important for me.
Mixon could roll into the top 5, assuming the release of his video doesn't damage him too much. His stats likely would have been ridiculous if not for Perine being so good as well. His team situation will be important for me.
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Re: Consensus number one (2017) draft?
How much do you value situation in your evaluation? Recent examples being Gurley in LA and Elliott in DAL in regards to top RB's. I have been drooling over Fournette's game for years... how much would you let Fournette/Cook's landing spots move them in your personal rankings, if at all?
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Landing spot is equally important. I reminisce about getting Beckham at 1.05 in 2014. I'd say this year it was Michael Thomas in Colston's shoes or Shepard as #2 in NYG.
Davis to a pass-friendly team would launch him to 1.01
Davis to a pass-friendly team would launch him to 1.01
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I too, think situation could inflate/deflate some values. EZE and Gurley are the perfect examples. I sucked this season with Jordan Matthews and have a ton of first round picks (8). I will definitely being paying attention to landing spot. Hoping to grab a RB at 1.01 then come back and get the top receiver at 1.03. I have a feeling the owner of 1.02 will go RB. That would be best case scenario. From what I gather though, there will plenty for EVERYONE to eat this season. Can we say the same about last year's class?
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Re: Consensus number one (2017) draft?
Or Bishop Sankey in Tennessee. Situation worked really well for him. Some thought Sterling Shepard (who I like) would reach 1000 yards this season because of situation.
Situation can be a nice icing on the cake for an already great talent but beware of launching mediocre or average prospects because of awesome landing spots.
Situation can be a nice icing on the cake for an already great talent but beware of launching mediocre or average prospects because of awesome landing spots.
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When looking at identically ranked players, location could be what tips the needle. I would never pass on Mike Williams because Joe Smoe landed in Detroit.Cameron Giles wrote:Or Bishop Sankey in Tennessee. Situation worked really well for him. Some thought Sterling Shepard (who I like) would reach 1000 yards this season because of situation.
Situation can be a nice icing on the cake for an already great talent but beware of launching mediocre or average prospects because of awesome landing spots.
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Yeah, situation should be the tiebreaker within your tiers; not a tier-changer.
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People say it, but they make the same mistake every year.People Mover wrote: When looking at identically ranked players, location could be what tips the needle. I would never pass on Mike Williams because Joe Smoe landed in Detroit.
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Re: Consensus number one (2017) draft?
I think Fournette is #1 guy right now. Such an elite talent I think, as long as he can stay healthy.
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I have Davis ahead of Williams, but it's pretty close.lukkynumber13 wrote:The answer to your question is a big fat NO. By definition there is not one guy that the majority of people agree is the #1 prospect. Even after the draft I doubt there will be. I this will be similar to the 2015 draft. One premium elite WR prospect (Amari then, Mike Williams now), a couple really high end WR prospects just a notch below that (White & Parker then, JuJu & Corey Davis and maybe even Sutton now), and a couple elite RB prospects (Gurley & Gordon then, Fournette & Cook now although I still lump Chubb in there as well). The main difference will be the TE talent and the depth at RB this year
The closest you'll get is a consensus GROUP at the top: Fournette, Mike Willliams, & Cook (for most people)
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We're not there yet, but we could get there by the time rookie drafts roll around.People Mover wrote:Is there a consensus number one in the upcoming draft? A player who is head and shoulders above the rest? Or is it close?
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I'd rank them Davis, Fournette, Cook at this point. So I'd be looking to move any top 3 pick back to get paid for picking the guy i'm most comfortable with.
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My team in the sig, which has been highest points for three years straight is starting to get long in the tooth,in a sense. But I traded some depth and now have a high, mid, and late first, along with a high second, late second, high third, and late third. Hopefully it will be reloading on the fly once the AB/Julio core is officially old.
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Re: Consensus number one (2017) draft?
Fournette is my number one. Truly a generational talent since he was a high schooler.
That said what a great draft at the top. If you love cook I'm fine with that. Davis and Williams should also compete for top wr honors.
Not to mention still a few Chubb truthers out there!
That said what a great draft at the top. If you love cook I'm fine with that. Davis and Williams should also compete for top wr honors.
Not to mention still a few Chubb truthers out there!
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Re: Consensus number one (2017) draft?
Nope. Fournette had the lead, with some Chubb love during the summer, then Cook blew up this year. However Mike Williams, and Corey Davis have blown up as well. This is one of those years where if you need a RB, and you have a top 4 pick you'll be fine, and if you need a WR and have a top 5-7 pick you may be fine as well. Guys like Williams and Juju could see their stock rise a little, or drop a ton based on the combine and workouts. Well, maybe a ton is going too far, but Ross is going to run the 40 like Fuller, but unlike Fuller, Ross has hands and a greater body of work. Sutton could blow up too. The interesting guy could be McCafferey as well since there is such radically differing valuations of him, I've seen him as high as 3rd and 4th this past year, and as low as 1.11-1.12.
The big thing to me in addition to everything else is that if everyone comes out and stays healthy, tier 1 and tier 2 could be seven deep, and that tier 1 and tier 2 would be compromised of prospects uniformally better than anyone in '16 other than Zeke, and better than maybe anyone in '15 other than Gurley, when compared at this point in the draft.
I love the fact that this draft could have 3-4 RB's and 3-4 WR's that I'm completely enamored with, and on top of that, 3-4 legit TE's, and a ton of depth too.
That's the take away, tremendous cream at the top AND depth, if just about everyone comes out.
Sneaky move if your league allows it would be to try to pick him up '18 firsts for players that don''t come out, combined with the legit studs already in that class, for now anyway. If there are some guys that go back to school, '18 will turn from a solid draft to another damn good one.
The big thing to me in addition to everything else is that if everyone comes out and stays healthy, tier 1 and tier 2 could be seven deep, and that tier 1 and tier 2 would be compromised of prospects uniformally better than anyone in '16 other than Zeke, and better than maybe anyone in '15 other than Gurley, when compared at this point in the draft.
I love the fact that this draft could have 3-4 RB's and 3-4 WR's that I'm completely enamored with, and on top of that, 3-4 legit TE's, and a ton of depth too.
That's the take away, tremendous cream at the top AND depth, if just about everyone comes out.
Sneaky move if your league allows it would be to try to pick him up '18 firsts for players that don''t come out, combined with the legit studs already in that class, for now anyway. If there are some guys that go back to school, '18 will turn from a solid draft to another damn good one.