Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

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Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:27 pm

Where do you see him as a talent? Is he closer to Dez in his prime, or more of a high-end WR2 with WR1 upside? Do y'all see him as a better pure WR than Evans, Nuk, AJG, etc?
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby heydangle » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:29 pm

he's good

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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby jaykay22 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:30 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:Where do you see him as a talent? Is he closer to Dez in his prime, or more of a high-end WR2 with WR1 upside? Do y'all see him as a better pure WR than Evans, Nuk, AJG, etc?
I think he's closer to the higher end of that spectrum (Dez in his prime). I see him as an equally pure WR talent as Evans and Nuk, with AJG being more talented than all of them (I truly think AJG is a cyborg in the Julio mold).

ARob will continue to suffer from having Bortles as his QB, Bradley as his HC, and just ultimately being on the Jags. And by suffer I mean he'll continuously end up putting up points while going up and pulling down crappy Bortles throws while playing from behind.

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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby Servo » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:06 am

Not a hot start through 4 games, but the same can be said with Julio (before this week's explosion). Bortles still trusts him in the redzone and Robinson has made some fantastic catches....I will say, the game in London was the first I watched of JAX this year and the amount of penalties he is experiencing is atrocious.

Instead of having big gains and plays, it just turns into a holding or PI penalty, pretty ridiculous that numerous teams have covered him this way. From the game yesterday he created great separation in the endzone yet, had a few plays that I think he should have caught; I can't say I'm worried about him. With all these holding and PI penalties, he's been doing something correctly.
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:33 am

Robinson's first 30 games in the league:

149 receptions
2,186 receiving yards
19 touchdowns

That's pretty high level production and still room to get better. He's a high level WR, with elite upside when he hits his prime.

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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby AZK » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:29 am

Cameron Giles wrote:Robinson's first 30 games in the league:

149 receptions
2,186 receiving yards
19 touchdowns

That's pretty high level production and still room to get better. He's a high level WR, with elite upside when he hits his prime.
By then he will be another "old" and aging 26 year old WR going for 2nd round start-up value, why bother with a consistent young stud when the 2019 class will be loaded. :roll:
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:42 am

He's a great WR on a terrible football team that will either earn himself a payday in a new city, or see a regime change in 2017 when Shad Khan gets tired of Gus Bradley's losing. Either way, he'll get to learn a new offense. He'll also be working with a new QB; in 2017 if he goes to another team, or 2018 if he stays with the Jags and they decline to pick up Bortle's team option.

At that point, he'll still only be 25 years old and have plenty of good football ahead of him. I'd love to have him on my team.
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby snitchinsider » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:39 pm

StoneyBrown wrote:Not a hot start through 4 games, but the same can be said with Julio (before this week's explosion). Bortles still trusts him in the redzone and Robinson has made some fantastic catches....I will say, the game in London was the first I watched of JAX this year and the amount of penalties he is experiencing is atrocious.

Instead of having big gains and plays, it just turns into a holding or PI penalty, pretty ridiculous that numerous teams have covered him this way. From the game yesterday he created great separation in the endzone yet, had a few plays that I think he should have caught; I can't say I'm worried about him. With all these holding and PI penalties, he's been doing something correctly.
This, so much. He's been getting absolutely mugged this season. Some flags are called, but plenty aren't. The Jags complained about it to the league in week 1 against GB. I've still seen plenty of it since then, including last week. There's a lot of yards (and touchdowns) he's left on the field already from PIs. Would be nice if fantasy gave you some kind of credit for drawing a PI in points, even if it's just half the yards of the spot of the foul. Some kind of partial performance credit would be nice.
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby Lotto4Life » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:54 pm

snitchinsider wrote:Would be nice if fantasy gave you some kind of credit for drawing a PI in points, even if it's just half the yards of the spot of the foul. Some kind of partial performance credit would be nice.
I've been a proponent of this for a while. I think 1/2 the yardage is good. Maybe 3 additional points if it's in the end zone.

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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby AZK » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:57 pm

snitchinsider wrote:Would be nice if fantasy gave you some kind of credit for drawing a PI in points, even if it's just half the yards of the spot of the foul. Some kind of partial performance credit would be nice.
Participation awards?

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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?

Postby Lotto4Life » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:45 am

Neight wrote:
snitchinsider wrote:Would be nice if fantasy gave you some kind of credit for drawing a PI in points, even if it's just half the yards of the spot of the foul. Some kind of partial performance credit would be nice.
Participation awards?
Not a good analogy. The WR is directly responsible for moving his team just as many yards as if he wasn't interfered with and caught the ball.


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