Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
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Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
Where do you see him as a talent? Is he closer to Dez in his prime, or more of a high-end WR2 with WR1 upside? Do y'all see him as a better pure WR than Evans, Nuk, AJG, etc?
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
I think he's closer to the higher end of that spectrum (Dez in his prime). I see him as an equally pure WR talent as Evans and Nuk, with AJG being more talented than all of them (I truly think AJG is a cyborg in the Julio mold).lukkynumber13 wrote:Where do you see him as a talent? Is he closer to Dez in his prime, or more of a high-end WR2 with WR1 upside? Do y'all see him as a better pure WR than Evans, Nuk, AJG, etc?
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
Not a hot start through 4 games, but the same can be said with Julio (before this week's explosion). Bortles still trusts him in the redzone and Robinson has made some fantastic catches....I will say, the game in London was the first I watched of JAX this year and the amount of penalties he is experiencing is atrocious.
Instead of having big gains and plays, it just turns into a holding or PI penalty, pretty ridiculous that numerous teams have covered him this way. From the game yesterday he created great separation in the endzone yet, had a few plays that I think he should have caught; I can't say I'm worried about him. With all these holding and PI penalties, he's been doing something correctly.
Instead of having big gains and plays, it just turns into a holding or PI penalty, pretty ridiculous that numerous teams have covered him this way. From the game yesterday he created great separation in the endzone yet, had a few plays that I think he should have caught; I can't say I'm worried about him. With all these holding and PI penalties, he's been doing something correctly.
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
Robinson's first 30 games in the league:
149 receptions
2,186 receiving yards
19 touchdowns
That's pretty high level production and still room to get better. He's a high level WR, with elite upside when he hits his prime.
149 receptions
2,186 receiving yards
19 touchdowns
That's pretty high level production and still room to get better. He's a high level WR, with elite upside when he hits his prime.
Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
By then he will be another "old" and aging 26 year old WR going for 2nd round start-up value, why bother with a consistent young stud when the 2019 class will be loaded.Cameron Giles wrote:Robinson's first 30 games in the league:
149 receptions
2,186 receiving yards
19 touchdowns
That's pretty high level production and still room to get better. He's a high level WR, with elite upside when he hits his prime.

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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
He's a great WR on a terrible football team that will either earn himself a payday in a new city, or see a regime change in 2017 when Shad Khan gets tired of Gus Bradley's losing. Either way, he'll get to learn a new offense. He'll also be working with a new QB; in 2017 if he goes to another team, or 2018 if he stays with the Jags and they decline to pick up Bortle's team option.
At that point, he'll still only be 25 years old and have plenty of good football ahead of him. I'd love to have him on my team.
At that point, he'll still only be 25 years old and have plenty of good football ahead of him. I'd love to have him on my team.
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
This, so much. He's been getting absolutely mugged this season. Some flags are called, but plenty aren't. The Jags complained about it to the league in week 1 against GB. I've still seen plenty of it since then, including last week. There's a lot of yards (and touchdowns) he's left on the field already from PIs. Would be nice if fantasy gave you some kind of credit for drawing a PI in points, even if it's just half the yards of the spot of the foul. Some kind of partial performance credit would be nice.StoneyBrown wrote:Not a hot start through 4 games, but the same can be said with Julio (before this week's explosion). Bortles still trusts him in the redzone and Robinson has made some fantastic catches....I will say, the game in London was the first I watched of JAX this year and the amount of penalties he is experiencing is atrocious.
Instead of having big gains and plays, it just turns into a holding or PI penalty, pretty ridiculous that numerous teams have covered him this way. From the game yesterday he created great separation in the endzone yet, had a few plays that I think he should have caught; I can't say I'm worried about him. With all these holding and PI penalties, he's been doing something correctly.
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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
I've been a proponent of this for a while. I think 1/2 the yardage is good. Maybe 3 additional points if it's in the end zone.snitchinsider wrote:Would be nice if fantasy gave you some kind of credit for drawing a PI in points, even if it's just half the yards of the spot of the foul. Some kind of partial performance credit would be nice.
Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
Participation awards?snitchinsider wrote:Would be nice if fantasy gave you some kind of credit for drawing a PI in points, even if it's just half the yards of the spot of the foul. Some kind of partial performance credit would be nice.

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Re: Allen Robinson... What is he exactly?
Not a good analogy. The WR is directly responsible for moving his team just as many yards as if he wasn't interfered with and caught the ball.Neight wrote:Participation awards?snitchinsider wrote:Would be nice if fantasy gave you some kind of credit for drawing a PI in points, even if it's just half the yards of the spot of the foul. Some kind of partial performance credit would be nice.
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