Jarvis Landry... is this real

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Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby Fezzik » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:05 am

So the guy's shown an absolutely phenomenal skillset for PPR. I drafted him at 3.01 in a start-up this offseason and he certainly hasn't disappointed. I do wonder if he's a sell high, however. He's an excellent WR2 for me behind OBJ, and I have Diggs. Fantastic piece to have really. bleep he's the WR4 after 3 weeks. I just think, can he keep THIS level of production up? Or is it worth it to float him out there if I fall to 1-3? (Third to last in points, but sat Diggs and Landry in week 2 for Tate and Cobb, which cost me a bleep ton of points and a win).

I only watched a little of Miami's games this year (basically what's been on red zone) but I've watched a ton of Landry the last two years. Miami game script has been very conducive to his skill set, obviously. Tannehill loves him; he's the perfect broken play outlet.

I don't know. General thoughts on this guy? Sell high? Hold and enjoy and for the next 5 years? Just want to hear people's thoughts/opinions.

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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby Jfever » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:07 am

Been high on him from get go. He is a young cornerstone to hold and plug an play for all ppr leagues. He will likely be a top 10 -15 scoring wr in ppr scoring this year. The proof is in the pudding.
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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby IR1 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:17 am

Kind of feel he's underrated, lot of talk about Parker taking over, I'd hold unless I got an offer too good to pass on
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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby joeday » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:55 am

In my non ppr league he was 13th last year and 7th so far this year in scoring...that is WR1 territory (14 team league) and it feels like he hardly ever puts up stinkers. Honestly, at only 24 years old at the end of the season, he is creeping into my discussions of keeping him over Dez Bryant going into 2017 for my team!
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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby DinoDynasty » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:59 am

I was offered Watkins for Landry, I passed and told him I would need a 1st added on, and I would tag on a second for me to consider it. Landry has one of the best floors in PPR, there are very few days you ever have to worry about him dropping less than 10 points.
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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby wrightde » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:01 am

Real high on Landry. So is his owner in my league. He told me he wouldn't trade Landry for Dez straight up haha
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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:16 am

Fun fact: In in his last 30 games, Jarvis Landry has scored double digits in PPR...27 times.

You'll be troubled to find many receivers with a higher floor. His TD upside is limited and he is dependent on a lot of short area completions but he's very consistent. Tannehill is not a good deep ball passer, so Landry is always convenient for him. He was a WR1 last season, so he is for real. Landry was a good buy while Parker was getting all the noise in the offseason.

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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby Phaded » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:41 am

Remember when the vast majority of this community considered Parker a lock to surpass Landry?

Landry is grossly undervalued around here for reasons I honestly don't understand. End of the day, dude can flat out ball.

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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby jdomer2403 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:52 am

i know this should be in advice forum but would anyone swap ajg for him? I am extremely high on landry and that floor is insane.

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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby Blackout » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:07 am

I was very high on him since i acquired him for a 2nd 2 years ago. But at this point he is better than expected. On pace for 120-1500-5 TD ! Ok calm down, he won't get 1500 yards

However, as he's in my dynasty, i pray for not having an other ACL...

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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby Phaded » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:37 am

jdomer2403 wrote:i know this should be in advice forum but would anyone swap ajg for him? I am extremely high on landry and that floor is insane.
AJG certainly has more big play ability and TD upside. Landry has the safer floor.

However, you should be able to get more than just Landry for AJG. Straight up I would not ship AJG for Landry.

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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby dynastyninja » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:45 am

There are two conflicting thoughts for me with Landry. He is capable of producing at a high level. That much is obvious. The issue is that he grades out very poor athletically (https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/jarvis-landry/). He is essentially OBJ without the athleticism. I don't know if that is a lazy comparison because they were teammates, but it sums him up perfectly for me. I don't normally put a ton of weight into metrics like what player profiler has, but in Landry's case it almost can't be ignored.

When you put on the tape it is obvious he belongs in the NFL and deserves a nice share of targets, but I don't know if I feel confident in him producing at his current level long-term. On a per-target basis he is very inefficient. Things change in the NFL. Is he being fed right now? Absolutely, but what happens when the targets dip? If I'm investing early 3rd, late 2nd round value in a guy I want it to be in someone I know can succeed even when things aren't going his way. Right now things (targets) are going Landry's way, but if they don't he might go from a WR1/2 to a WR2/3. I've learned my lesson from Randall Cobb (who will always be my boy, and I know Phaded is there with me). Situations will change. If they're not a true top-tier talent then they will be subject to more extreme fluctuations.

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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:42 am

dynastyninja wrote:
When you put on the tape it is obvious he belongs in the NFL and deserves a nice share of targets, but I don't know if I feel confident in him producing at his current level long-term. On a per-target basis he is very inefficient. Things change in the NFL. Is he being fed right now? Absolutely, but what happens when the targets dip? If I'm investing early 3rd, late 2nd round value in a guy I want it to be in someone I know can succeed even when things aren't going his way. Right now things (targets) are going Landry's way, but if they don't he might go from a WR1/2 to a WR2/3. I've learned my lesson from Randall Cobb (who will always be my boy, and I know Phaded is there with me). Situations will change. If they're not a true top-tier talent then they will be subject to more extreme fluctuations.
He's the devonta freeman of Wrs. It will be good while it lasts but I think the bottom will fall out eventually.

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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby The Fantasy Feud » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:59 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
dynastyninja wrote:
When you put on the tape it is obvious he belongs in the NFL and deserves a nice share of targets, but I don't know if I feel confident in him producing at his current level long-term. On a per-target basis he is very inefficient. Things change in the NFL. Is he being fed right now? Absolutely, but what happens when the targets dip? If I'm investing early 3rd, late 2nd round value in a guy I want it to be in someone I know can succeed even when things aren't going his way. Right now things (targets) are going Landry's way, but if they don't he might go from a WR1/2 to a WR2/3. I've learned my lesson from Randall Cobb (who will always be my boy, and I know Phaded is there with me). Situations will change. If they're not a true top-tier talent then they will be subject to more extreme fluctuations.
He's the devonta freeman of Wrs. It will be good while it lasts but I think the bottom will fall out eventually.

I disagree, Freeman had the one good year last year and this year has disappointed big time. Landry on the other hand put up 275 in PPR last year i think? He averaged 17 Points and is off to a great start this year. IMO he's one of the best dynasty PPR guys you can get. Wish i had him.
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Re: Jarvis Landry... is this real

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:38 am

dynastyninja wrote:There are two conflicting thoughts for me with Landry. He is capable of producing at a high level. That much is obvious. The issue is that he grades out very poor athletically (https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/jarvis-landry/). He is essentially OBJ without the athleticism. I don't know if that is a lazy comparison because they were teammates, but it sums him up perfectly for me. I don't normally put a ton of weight into metrics like what player profiler has, but in Landry's case it almost can't be ignored.

When you put on the tape it is obvious he belongs in the NFL and deserves a nice share of targets, but I don't know if I feel confident in him producing at his current level long-term. On a per-target basis he is very inefficient. Things change in the NFL. Is he being fed right now? Absolutely, but what happens when the targets dip? If I'm investing early 3rd, late 2nd round value in a guy I want it to be in someone I know can succeed even when things aren't going his way. Right now things (targets) are going Landry's way, but if they don't he might go from a WR1/2 to a WR2/3. I've learned my lesson from Randall Cobb (who will always be my boy, and I know Phaded is there with me). Situations will change. If they're not a true top-tier talent then they will be subject to more extreme fluctuations.
Your bottom line is spot-on. Landry is probably more dependent on volume than most receivers because his yards per target is likely really low. It's why his value in PPR as opposed to standard is day and night.

However, I don't think his lack of athleticism is a concern. Athleticism isn't a requirement of receiver longevity or a precursor of elite production. It's simply a bonus on top of other things.


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