Appreciate your advice, I also have him ranked pretty high but just wanted to see what people thought his value is at this time. I consider him RB 3 or 4 as well but last year someone traded 3 first round picks and Juju for Saquon so made me wonder what I could as for Zeke if I wanted to trade him.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:14 pmAnd yet he's never missed a game or really even been in danger of it due to injury, despite one of the heavier workloads in the league. His "conditioning" is a complete non-factor for me, he's a throwback workhorse and probably the single most reliable RB in the league.Packerland wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:08 pmYea, he usually looks out of shape coming into the year, last year he was "working out" in Mexico while holding out but looked out of shape. Just curious because I have Zeke, what would you want added to Jacobs or Sanders to move Zeke?nathanq42 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:03 pm Not to mention he just got paid and doesnt seem to take care of himself in the offseason, and there almost always seems to be something going on with him not related to football. Just not a guy I would want to hold. Would way rather take Mixon/Jacobs/Sanders +
As for the question on selling Zeke for Jacobs or Sanders, both would be pretty different for me. Zeke is RB3 overall for me and Jacobs is RB5, whereas Sanders is probably just outside my top 10. I would probably still want a mid 1st on top of Jacobs, and probably and early 1st plus an early 2nd on top of Sanders, something in that range.
Ezekiel Elliott Thread: Should we Buy or Sell?
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QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
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This is pretty much where I’m at with Zeke. I was actually recently offered Jacobs + 2021 1st(probably late) for Zeke + 2021 2nd and declined. I can understand some owners wanting to sell because his value won’t get any higher but I wouldn’t give any discounts.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:14 pmAnd yet he's never missed a game or really even been in danger of it due to injury, despite one of the heavier workloads in the league. His "conditioning" is a complete non-factor for me, he's a throwback workhorse and probably the single most reliable RB in the league.Packerland wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:08 pmYea, he usually looks out of shape coming into the year, last year he was "working out" in Mexico while holding out but looked out of shape. Just curious because I have Zeke, what would you want added to Jacobs or Sanders to move Zeke?nathanq42 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:03 pm Not to mention he just got paid and doesnt seem to take care of himself in the offseason, and there almost always seems to be something going on with him not related to football. Just not a guy I would want to hold. Would way rather take Mixon/Jacobs/Sanders +
As for the question on selling Zeke for Jacobs or Sanders, both would be pretty different for me. Zeke is RB3 overall for me and Jacobs is RB5, whereas Sanders is probably just outside my top 10. I would probably still want a mid 1st on top of Jacobs, and probably and early 1st plus an early 2nd on top of Sanders, something in that range.
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Big Zeke fan, though you probably couldn't tell considering the fact that I started this thread with a different tone. Obviously I was wrong and getting too paranoid. I'm a buyer, though I understand those that want to cash out for peak value. I still think he's got at least three RB1 years in him. Less confident in stud production in his later 20s, but that's just all RBs.
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I think Zeke is going to be a highly productive fantasy RB through his 20's and probably still decent in his early 30's, barring a major injury or off-field issue. Obviously he'll start to tail off a bit in his later 20's and likely won't be the stud high end RB1, but will still produce borderline RB1-RB2 numbers.
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Agree here, and with the above poster that he’s about as rock solid as it gets.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:00 pm I think Zeke is going to be a highly productive fantasy RB through his 20's and probably still decent in his early 30's, barring a major injury or off-field issue. Obviously he'll start to tail off a bit in his later 20's and likely won't be the stud high end RB1, but will still produce borderline RB1-RB2 numbers.
I think the catch is, once that inevitable decline starts, you will never sniff this current value, obviously.
If you’re on a competing window, Zeke is absolute gold imo. If you’re not a top team I do consider this a decent time to cash out, I’d you can get an offer like the one earlier in this thread for Barkley.
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Just bought Zeke in a 1 qb league for Goff, Guice, 1.06. Pretty happy with that price.
I actually traded Godd ana Guice for 1.03, then 1.03 and 1.06 to the same owner for Zeke.
I actually traded Godd ana Guice for 1.03, then 1.03 and 1.06 to the same owner for Zeke.
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I'd say both are good deals, but what the heck is that guy doing trading away the 1.03 for Goff and Guice?Johnny B. Goode wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:13 pm Just bought Zeke in a 1 qb league for Goff, Guice, 1.06. Pretty happy with that price.
I actually traded Godd ana Guice for 1.03, then 1.03 and 1.06 to the same owner for Zeke.
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You found your "Golden Goose" keep the relationship good with that guy and continue to milk him for those good deals.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:45 pmI'd say both are good deals, but what the heck is that guy doing trading away the 1.03 for Goff and Guice?Johnny B. Goode wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:13 pm Just bought Zeke in a 1 qb league for Goff, Guice, 1.06. Pretty happy with that price.
I actually traded Godd ana Guice for 1.03, then 1.03 and 1.06 to the same owner for Zeke.
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League
QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds
QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
I hear what all of you are saying, and get your not worries About Zeke as a player.honcho55 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:55 pmAgree here, and with the above poster that he’s about as rock solid as it gets.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:00 pm I think Zeke is going to be a highly productive fantasy RB through his 20's and probably still decent in his early 30's, barring a major injury or off-field issue. Obviously he'll start to tail off a bit in his later 20's and likely won't be the stud high end RB1, but will still produce borderline RB1-RB2 numbers.
I think the catch is, once that inevitable decline starts, you will never sniff this current value, obviously.
If you’re on a competing window, Zeke is absolute gold imo. If you’re not a top team I do consider this a decent time to cash out, I’d you can get an offer like the one earlier in this thread for Barkley.
But what about the situation he is in. The defense that has lost quit alot this FA, and hos best buddy on the O-line has retired.
Is that not a concern ? Or just on the same level as his off-season out-of-shapeness
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RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
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RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
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WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
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RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
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WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
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QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
Losing Frederick certainly wasn't ideal, but he was fine without him in 2018, and the Cowboys are likely to address the position in the draft. They have had some loses in D, but they've also made some good additions so I think they'll be fine, also they should have LVE this year after he missed nearly all of last year.ravn88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:30 pmI hear what all of you are saying, and get your not worries About Zeke as a player.honcho55 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:55 pmAgree here, and with the above poster that he’s about as rock solid as it gets.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:00 pm I think Zeke is going to be a highly productive fantasy RB through his 20's and probably still decent in his early 30's, barring a major injury or off-field issue. Obviously he'll start to tail off a bit in his later 20's and likely won't be the stud high end RB1, but will still produce borderline RB1-RB2 numbers.
I think the catch is, once that inevitable decline starts, you will never sniff this current value, obviously.
If you’re on a competing window, Zeke is absolute gold imo. If you’re not a top team I do consider this a decent time to cash out, I’d you can get an offer like the one earlier in this thread for Barkley.
But what about the situation he is in. The defense that has lost quit alot this FA, and hos best buddy on the O-line has retired.
Is that not a concern ? Or just on the same level as his off-season out-of-shapeness
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I'm leaning towards offering him up to a guy that has 1.1 & 1.4, but I don't know if he'd bite. There's also a guy that has 1.5, 1.6, and 1.8, but again I don't think he'd bite on it either. Those are max values that I'd try for, but anything less (picks only wise) I wouldn't really entertain. That's just rookie fever setting in where I'd like to get max value for Zeke and hopefully strengthen my WR core with the mid 1sts.
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Shoot, if this is a long standing league, I'd throw that guy a bone. In my 20 year league, I had a couple owners who wouldn't trade with me after seeing multiple trades go in my favor after it all shook out (I'm not a "always win the trade" guy, I just was right on guys I was targeting blowing up). I went out of my way to give them decent value on a guy they wanted, and it's done wonders to keep the trade channels flowing.Packerland wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:29 pmYou found your "Golden Goose" keep the relationship good with that guy and continue to milk him for those good deals.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:45 pmI'd say both are good deals, but what the heck is that guy doing trading away the 1.03 for Goff and Guice?Johnny B. Goode wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:13 pm Just bought Zeke in a 1 qb league for Goff, Guice, 1.06. Pretty happy with that price.
I actually traded Godd ana Guice for 1.03, then 1.03 and 1.06 to the same owner for Zeke.
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I tried Zeke and 15 for 1&5 this year and got shot down. I think most are seeing Taylor as a Zeke-like talent, and not willing to add much to 1.01.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:44 am I'm leaning towards offering him up to a guy that has 1.1 & 1.4, but I don't know if he'd bite. There's also a guy that has 1.5, 1.6, and 1.8, but again I don't think he'd bite on it either. Those are max values that I'd try for, but anything less (picks only wise) I wouldn't really entertain. That's just rookie fever setting in where I'd like to get max value for Zeke and hopefully strengthen my WR core with the mid 1sts.
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Zeke Should we buy or sell
It might have to do with the line dying, the defense keying on the run because the QB's currently are bad, he was producing with Dak, or maybe hes breaking down due to the high volume he has gotten over his college and professional career.
What are your thoughts?
Would you be buying or are you trying to sell?
What are your thoughts?
Would you be buying or are you trying to sell?
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RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
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