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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:42 pm

DLF HOF Week XIV Playoff & Consolation Results:

DLF Toilet Bowl:

Valhalla 86.70 ericanadian 84.15

ericanadian may remain more eric than canadian but it is likely that Valhalla is now more Halla(lujah) than Val as it has been over a month since their last win. One Valhalla supporter said that it felt longer since Valhallas last win than since the Vikings last Super Bowl but they may have gotten weeks & decades confused.

DLF_BrianH 122.25 ArrylT 108.80

Sometimes you save the best for last, but even your best is not enough. ArrylTs squad scored their highest output since 2018 but it was still not enough to keep BrianH from breaking his losing streak. Just a reminder that you are now obligated to go listen to DLF_BrianHs podcast.

DLF Middle Teams Consolation:

nation31 129.45 thebeast 87.65

Hard to tell who is more excited. nation31 on advancing in the Middle of the Road Bowl (prize is the 2.17) or thebeast for rediscovering the joy that is Darius Slayton. Probably nation31, as looking at thebeasts roster is sort of what could have been had injuries not taken a toll on their RBs.

Seventy5 126.20 knotts4372 76.95

As you may have noticed, this years edition of the Middle of the Road Playoffs is replete with teams who could not or did not do enough to want the Championship trying to show that they now can do enough to win the 2.17. However S5 is probably wishing his team had gelled earlier in the season rather than these past few weeks - making his team perhaps good enough to win the booby prize but not the real prize.

2018 DLF HOF Playoffs:

TitusYoungsLawyer 139.55 Plank 113.25

Plank sort of backed their way into the playoffs - losing 2 of their last 3 and 3 of the last 5 - and immediately bumped into a team that did not forget they owed Plank a dunking. TYL won 3 straight after their Week X loss to Plank, and have now made it 4 straight - and 1 win away from the grand shebang - with this statement win.

hockeybjj 124.95 dlf_jaronf 113.85

Guess who beat DLF_JaronF last year in Week XIV. One guess. If you guessed hockeybjj - wrong - they only joined in 2019. If you guessed last years darkhorse champion Dookmariot - Bingo! hockeybjj now gets to play Dookmariot while wearing Dookmariots shoes. And they would have beaten Dookmariot in Week XIV had they met. Maybe they are less of a darkhorse than we originally thought - but thats what we thought about Dookmariot last year I bet. Going to be fun to see who advances!
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Plank » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:57 pm

Yep, my team struggled with injuries headed into the playoffs .. Conner, Thielen, Hooper (who was making quite a difference), then even Evans in this W15 .. But, we all deal with them, .. I was hopeful that Thielen and everyone would return W15 and make a push, but nope...

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:43 am

16 team leagues are weird, that's my conclusion after this season in my first over 12 sized league.

I added Wes Wills (who????) and may be starting him in the championship if neither Bo Scarbough or Kerryon Johnson return. If I hadn't dropped Mike Boone who was the clear RB3 on the depth chart, I could potentially have a killer piece as both Cook and Mattison are very questionable for a divisional mathchup against Packers poor Run D.

Please please please DJ Chark be healthy :pray:
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE, (a TE2 can flex for RB3 or WR3), 1D, 1K
2019: 5th place :wall:
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram,Devonta Freeman, Damien Williams, Hyde
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju Smith Jarvis Landry, T Boyd, G Tate, D Slayton, A Miller, T
TE: George Kittle, Rudolph, V McDonald, Dwelley
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans, Jax Siebert CLE
Taxi- D Henderson, A Mattison, B Snell
picks- 2020 1.05, 2.06, 4.06, 5.06 5 2021- 1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
Threepeat Champs 8-)
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Haskins
RB: CMC, D Cook, Kamara, D Henry, Gurley, T Cohen, Yeldon, P Barber, M Brown, Riddick,
WR:Hopkins, Diggs, Golloday, Edelman, Arob, Fuller, Westbrook, Hurns, Wright, Dorsett, Higgins, T Patrick, M Harris
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Dissly, Legget
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Valhalla » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:56 am

hockeyBjj wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:43 am
16 team leagues are weird, that's my conclusion after this season in my first over 12 sized league.

I added Wes Wills (who????) and may be starting him in the championship if neither Bo Scarbough or Kerryon Johnson return. If I hadn't dropped Mike Boone who was the clear RB3 on the depth chart, I could potentially have a killer piece as both Cook and Mattison are very questionable for a divisional mathchup against Packers poor Run D.

Please please please DJ Chark be healthy :pray:
Yeah, he would have been a Boone to your championship push.

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:08 pm

DLF HOF Week XIV Playoff & Consolation Results:

DLF Toilet Bowl:

DLF_BrianH 134.95 Valhalla 83.15

This is the biggest DLF HOF Toilet Bowl massacre of all time. Authorities are still searching for BrianH after the brutal uncalled for destruction of the father of 60 orphans, 30 cats, 25 dogs & 2 sheep. Valhalla NEEDED that 1.17 to sell at the market to feed his massive extended family but did this heartless thug care? Not an ounce of pity. Valhalla begged & begged - please spare me for the sake of my family - but it was not to be. The DLF in his name shall forever stand for Destroyer of Loved Families. Biggest Toilet Bowl Massacre in DLF HOF History. In lieu of charitable donations Valhallas family will accept 2020 1sts as a token of your everlasting thanks that it was not you that was the victim of this unspeakable event. Dont let his sacrifice go in vain.

DLF Middle Teams Consolation:

maxhyde 142.15 nation31 96.9

We have talked before about maxhydes ability to go from meek Dr. Jekyll to dominant Mr. Hyde. It was no more apparent than in this result what happens when you go up against the Hyde of maxhyde. He did not need to release the Kraken - as the Drake was unleashed instead. nation31 will be sore for days from this beatdown. Ask him 3 weeks from now he'll probably say it still Ertz.

Seventy5 134.15 JFever 84

From Wentz did that hurricane come from screamed JFever at his team - they replied it was from the direction of the ISeventy5 sir! I do not need to ask Watson S5s mind - as I have no doubt he Diggs the chance to earn the 2.17 against maxhyde. It may be an upHill battle so hopefully he will be Mixon up a good lineup for next week.

5th Place Matchup:

DLF_JaronF 106.4 Plank 87.3

Consolation games with no prize money or draft pick bonus are rarely of much consolation to the owners that partake. It is probably a sour victory for JaronF after barely missing out on the #1 seed, to finish 5th overall.

2018 DLF HOF Playoffs:

TitusYoungsLawyer 101.75 sloth8u 97.45

Not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 players on TYLs squad failed to score 10 points. But that did not matter much as Zeke put the team on his back and carried him into the DLF HOF Finals. This can be proof that big bold moves can pay off. Back in June TYL paid what many outsiders may have thought was an overpay of DJ Moore, Michel & 2 2020 1sts for a guy who had off-field concerns. But Ezekiel Elliott has rewarded TYLs faith - failing to earn 10 points this season a mere 1 time, and was the RB #2 overall for the past 5 weeks. And has now led him to a shot at the promised land.

hockeybjj 157 Dookmariot 131.45

The king is dead. The king is dead. The king is dead. Long live the king. All hail Hockeybjj - Champion of the AFC and dark horse to the throne. Once again we witness bold moves getting rewarded. Not even a month ago hockeybjj got off the hemming & hawwing fence that many owners sit upon, and went out and acquired 2 key assets in Mark Ingram & Hopkins and now possesses what could be the most lethal QB/RB/WR trio of Lamar, Ingram & Hopkins.

Fortune favors the Bold. TYL and hockeybjj were bold. And here they are in the Finals. The owners who made the biggest moves this year earned their shots. Well done. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Dookmarriot » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:38 am

I'm not dead. I'm just pining for the fjords.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Dookmarriot » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:47 am

I did try to make some deadline deals...offering JuJu and my 1sts as bait. I'm glad none of the deals went through, though, as all of my trade targets laid eggs in week 15. 😐

Clearly the expansion draft was the place to be...both finalists took part. Personally, I blame Jules.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby thebeast » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:41 am

Dookmarriot wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:47 am
I did try to make some deadline deals...offering JuJu and my 1sts as bait. I'm glad none of the deals went through, though, as all of my trade targets laid eggs in week 15. 😐

Claearly the expansion draft was the place to be...both finalists took part. Personally, I blame Jules.
This is more eloquent than how I would have expressed this. I think both teams made some nice moves that got them to where they are, but the dispersal draft was definitely a leg up vs teams who have managed their assets through the good and bad since the beginning.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:22 am

Personally I do not think the dispersal gave any participating team a true leg up over any non-participating team. A dispersal draft is basically just a large volume of trades as you take a large subset of players and send them to the teams that want them the most. One could just as easily blame thebeast because thebeast traded Ezekiel Elliott to Dookmariot for Guice, C. Davis & E. Engram or Dookmariot for trading Elliott to TitusYoungsLawyer and Elliotts performance down the stretch helped stabilize TYLs playoff push.

I personally believe activity is a key component to success. Another key is being willing to take risks. Both TYL & hockeybjj have shown themselves this year to be very capable of doing both (being active & taking calculated risks). It should also be noted that hockeybjj initially wanted to take the same route Valhalla took, but the early season showed how successful his team was doing, which combined with the reluctance or inaction or fear of other owners to do much of anything, allowed him to benefit. And then he made the astute decision to go for it & made trades to capitalize. Whether or not the team he built through the dispersal gave him a better foundation is immaterial if he does not use that foundation to continue to build a mansion instead of tearing up the foundation & using the land to build a different building long term.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby thebeast » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:32 am

I see it differently. TYL should never have been allowed to be in the dispersal draft. To give an owner who had run his team into the ground a new life is crazy. His prior team wound have never had the assets to trade for Zeke. Most teams don’t have the assets to trade for Zeke or Hopkins, but two of the dispersal teams did, they all came out with a balance of assets to some extent putting them in a good to execute trades. Hokeybjj had not choice but to be in the dispersal and I have no qualms with his team being in the finals. But TYL is a different story. And I do think that two of the 4 teams who took part in the dispersal draft taking two of 6 draft spots says something about the dispersal. I get it, there were trades, but you need assets to make trades.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:59 am

I'll just avoid the TYL aspect of joining the dispersal as an existing owner as I wasn't in the league when it happened

The dispersal pieces really weren't that great. They just hit at a stupid rate. Guys who were worth late 2nd or 3rd rounders before the season really flashed and produced. I sold on that breakout production for reliable pieces (and frankly got Hopkins and Ingram at a price I couldn't believe. Kerryon, McLaurin, Slayton, Boyd, Fuller, Hyde, Late 2nd bundle)

Here's the draft again if it's public to see
http://www68.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... 61756&O=17

Other than Hill, Kelce, 1.01, and Keenan there weren't many good pieces. By the 3rd round, which should be like the 3rd best player on your team, guys like DJ Moore (who before the season, was only a hopeful) and Tarik Cohen were the players being taken.

It was the deep picks that really panned out above their pay grade. Anthony Miller in the 6th chose a great time to come alive for me, Marvin Jones in the 8th was good until he got hurt, Lamar Jackson in the 7th was a hindsight genius move, but there's a reason we all passed on him for multiple rounds. Even taking Russell Wilson, Baker Mayfield, and Jaemis Winston ahead of him. Ljax was a boom or bust chance.

Even deeper than that, Emmanuel Sanders in 12th won me some early weeks, DJ Chark in the 16th, holy wow. Terry McLaurin rookie pick 2.18 I took in 14th round. Darius Slayton 3.15 rookie I took in 19th round. Those two I obviously sold as part of the deal for Hopkins, (they won me regular season weeks before sold) which is where assets are needed to buy assets, but not like anyone thought they'd move the needle on a Hopkins offer before season started.

None of the guys taken after the first two, maybe three rounds, should have been top 5 players on a championship team looking at this in July. But yet here we are.
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE, (a TE2 can flex for RB3 or WR3), 1D, 1K
2019: 5th place :wall:
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram,Devonta Freeman, Damien Williams, Hyde
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju Smith Jarvis Landry, T Boyd, G Tate, D Slayton, A Miller, T
TE: George Kittle, Rudolph, V McDonald, Dwelley
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans, Jax Siebert CLE
Taxi- D Henderson, A Mattison, B Snell
picks- 2020 1.05, 2.06, 4.06, 5.06 5 2021- 1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
Threepeat Champs 8-)
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Haskins
RB: CMC, D Cook, Kamara, D Henry, Gurley, T Cohen, Yeldon, P Barber, M Brown, Riddick,
WR:Hopkins, Diggs, Golloday, Edelman, Arob, Fuller, Westbrook, Hurns, Wright, Dorsett, Higgins, T Patrick, M Harris
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Dissly, Legget
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picks- 2020- 0 2021- 3,4,5

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby thebeast » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:45 pm

See you think Hopkins was a steal and I think you overpaid for him. So it’s a good deal all around. I do think now is exactly the time you want to move players like Hopkins as their value will begin to decline. Maybe not next year, but in e next few years.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby hockeyBjj » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:31 am

thebeast wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:45 pm
See you think Hopkins was a steal and I think you overpaid for him. So it’s a good deal all around.
2 ways to know a deal was fair/good

Both owners happy with it, or both owners upset with it yet still pulling the trigger

Time will tell on this one who the winner was, depends on how the young pieces in the bundle pan out.
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE, (a TE2 can flex for RB3 or WR3), 1D, 1K
2019: 5th place :wall:
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram,Devonta Freeman, Damien Williams, Hyde
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju Smith Jarvis Landry, T Boyd, G Tate, D Slayton, A Miller, T
TE: George Kittle, Rudolph, V McDonald, Dwelley
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans, Jax Siebert CLE
Taxi- D Henderson, A Mattison, B Snell
picks- 2020 1.05, 2.06, 4.06, 5.06 5 2021- 1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
Threepeat Champs 8-)
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Haskins
RB: CMC, D Cook, Kamara, D Henry, Gurley, T Cohen, Yeldon, P Barber, M Brown, Riddick,
WR:Hopkins, Diggs, Golloday, Edelman, Arob, Fuller, Westbrook, Hurns, Wright, Dorsett, Higgins, T Patrick, M Harris
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Dissly, Legget
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picks- 2020- 0 2021- 3,4,5

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:33 am

hockeyBjj wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:31 am
thebeast wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:45 pm
See you think Hopkins was a steal and I think you overpaid for him. So it’s a good deal all around.
2 ways to know a deal was fair/good

Both owners happy with it, or both owners upset with it yet still pulling the trigger

Time will tell on this one who the winner was, depends on how the young pieces in the bundle pan out.
Yeah that is always interesting to see. I have seen deals that both teams were quite happy with that ended up looking disappointing from a perspective 2-3 years down the road. and the reverse as well, deals that neither team was thrilled with, end up being quite rewarding going forward.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Plank » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:29 am

Congrats Dean!
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