HOF league discussion

[ArrylT]

Draft Trade number six:

ArrylT gave up Edmonds, Chase ARI RB; Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.01
Valhalla gave up Yeldon, T.J. BUF RB; Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.12

The 1 piece I regretted the most giving up in the deal to move up to 1.01 was TJ Yeldon. So happy to have him back on my squad - although with my luck this will be the year Edmonds has a breakout year (for fantasy) lol.

[ArrylT]

Draft Trade number seven:

ArrylT gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.02
jfever24 gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.16; Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick from jfever24

One of my goals, as previously stated multiple times, is to ensure I get a trade done with all the other owners - so this deal had that benefit of getting my first trade done with JFever. Guess we'll see in 4h or less who he takes.

[Seventy5]

draft trade number five!

sloth8u gave up Year 2020 Round 2 Draft Pick from sloth8u
Seventy5 gave up Graham, Jimmy GBP TE; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.12

My reasoning for this one is quite simple: when on the clock at 2.12, I felt like I was having to make a 3rd round decision in the 2nd round.

Kick the can down the road a year and maybe I’ll like my options at 2.10-2.16 in 2020 better than I do in 2019.

If I made the pick, I probably would have taken Preston Williams (would have felt like a reach), Darwin Thompson, or Daniel Jones, but I just wasn’t excited about any of those options at 2.12.

In hindsight, trading back for multiple 3rds would have been an option as well because there are 10+ stash players in this range I’d be ok with, but even then, there are a few more that will likely be available in free agency that I’ll be just as happy with.

Ultimately, it felt a lot like the 2016 rookie draft when I reached the mid-late 2nd round and felt the draft options/values weren’t THAT much better than the waiver wire = I’ll just cash out and try my luck next year.

[ArrylT]

2019 DLF HOF Rookie Draft Results:

Round I

1.01 1. ArrylT - Brown, A.J. TEN WR (R)
1.02 2. KNOTTS4372 - Jacobs, Josh OAK RB (R)
1.03 3. jfever24 - Brown, Marquise BAL WR (R)
1.04 4. Valhalla - Murray, Kyler ARI QB (R)
1.05 5. ArrylT - Harry, N'Keal NEP WR (R)
1.06 6. maxhyde - Montgomery, David CHI RB (R)
1.07 7. maxhyde - Sanders, Miles PHI RB (R)
1.08 8. ericanadian - Henderson, Darrell LAR RB (R)
1.09 9. ericanadian - Isabella, Andy ARI WR (R)
1.10 10. jfever24 - Metcalf, DK SEA WR (R)
1.11 11. dlf_jaronf - Hardman, Mecole KCC WR (R)
1.12 12. Valhalla - Campbell, Parris IND WR (R)
1.13 13. Plank - Samuel, Deebo SFO WR (R)
1.14 14. ericanadian - Singletary, Devin BUF RB (R)
1.15 15. ArrylT - Hockenson, T.J. DET TE (R)
1.16 16. Dookmariot - Boykin, Miles BAL WR (R)
1.17 17. sloth8u - Butler, Hakeem ARI WR (R)

Round II

2.01 18. Valhalla - Fant, Noah DEN TE (R)
2.02 19. Valhalla - Smith Jr., Irv MIN TE (R)
2.03 20. jfever24 - Arcega-Whiteside, JJ PHI WR (R)
2.04 21. sloth8u - Hill, Justice BAL RB (R)
2.05 22. KNOTTS4372 - Haskins, Dwayne WAS QB (R)
2.06 23. Valhalla - Johnson, Diontae PIT WR (R)
2.07 24. TitusYoung'sLawyer - Harris, Damien NEP RB (R)
2.08 25. maxhyde - Love, Bryce WAS RB (R)
2.09 26. dlf_jaronf - Mattison, Alexander MIN RB (R)
2.10 27. ericanadian - Miller, Scott TBB WR (R)
2.11 28. ericanadian - Hurd, Jalen SFO WR (R)
2.12 29. sloth8u - Harmon, Kelvin WAS WR (R)
2.13 30. Plank - Snell, Benny PIT RB (R)
2.14 31. dlf_jaronf - Williams, Dexter GBP RB (R)
2.15 32. Valhalla - Jones, Daniel NYG QB (R)
2.16 33. Dookmariot - Knox, Dawson BUF TE (R)
2.17 34. TitusYoung'sLawyer - Sternberger, Jace GBP TE (R)
2.18 35. Hockeybjj - McLaurin, Terry WAS WR (R)

Round III

3.01 36. Valhalla - Barnes, Alex TEN RB (R)
3.02 37. jfever24 - Thompson, Darwin KCC RB (R)
3.03 38. Plank - Williams, Preston MIA WR (R)
3.04 39. sloth8u - Anderson, Bruce TBB RB (R)
3.05 40. KNOTTS4372 - Armstead, Ryquell JAC RB (R)
3.06 41. dlf_brianh - Warring, Kahale HOU TE (R)
3.07 42. maxhyde - Lock, Drew DEN QB (R)
3.08 43. ericanadian - Johnson, KeeSean ARI WR (R)
3.09 44. ArrylT - Grier, Will CAR QB (R)
3.10 45. Hockeybjj - Ridley, Riley CHI WR (R)
3.11 46. dlf_jaronf - Oliver, Josh JAC TE (R)
3.12 47. ArrylT - Weber, Mike DAL RB (R)
3.13 48. Hockeybjj - Jennings, Gary SEA WR (R)
3.14 49. sloth8u - Gaskin, Myles MIA RB (R)
3.15 50. Hockeybjj - Slayton, Darius NYG WR (R)
3.16 51. ArrylT - Moreau, Foster OAK TE (R)

[ArrylT]

Full List of Trades that occurred during 2019 Rookie Draft*

7 ArrylT / jfever24 Trade
ArrylT gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.02
jfever24 gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.16; Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick from jfever24
Wed Jun 5 4:25:37 p.m. ET 2019

6 ArrylT / Valhalla Trade
ArrylT gave up Edmonds, Chase ARI RB; Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.01
Valhalla gave up Yeldon, T.J. BUF RB; Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.12
Wed Jun 5 2:30:42 p.m. ET 2019

5 sloth8u / Seventy5 Trade
sloth8u gave up Year 2020 Round 2 Draft Pick from sloth8u
Seventy5 gave up Graham, Jimmy GBP TE; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.12
Tue Jun 4 9:49:53 p.m. ET 2019

4 TitusYoung'sLawyer / maxhyde Trade
TitusYoung'sLawyer gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.08; Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick from TitusYoung'sLawyer
maxhyde gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.07
Tue Jun 4 7:04:03 a.m. ET 2019

3 ericanadian / Valhalla Trade
ericanadian gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.01; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.15
Valhalla gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.10; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.11; Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick from Valhalla
Mon Jun 3 7:43:10 p.m. ET 2019

2 ericanadian / ArrylT Trade
ericanadian gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.15
ArrylT gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.15; Year 2020 Round 2 Draft Pick from ArrylT
Comments: If Singletary ain’t your guy... Mon Jun 3 5:14:05 p.m. ET 2019

1 KNOTTS4372 / ArrylT Trade
KNOTTS4372 gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.05; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.15; Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.09
ArrylT gave up Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.02


* - posted in reverse order of occurrance

[ArrylT]

2019 Rookie Draft Selections & Thoughts: Intro

1.01 1. ArrylT - Brown, A.J. TEN WR (R)
1.05 5. ArrylT - Harry, N'Keal NEP WR (R)
1.15 15. ArrylT - Hockenson, T.J. DET TE (R)
3.09 44. ArrylT - Grier, Will CAR QB (R)
3.12 47. ArrylT - Weber, Mike DAL RB (R)
3.16 51. ArrylT - Moreau, Foster OAK TE (R)

Now that the vast majority of my rookie drafts have concluded I feel I can go into more details about my decision making process here.

My next post will be on my thoughts behind my 1.01 selection

[ArrylT]

1.01 1. ArrylT - Brown, A.J. TEN WR (R)

First a bit of context & history - that is assuming you have not already left after seeing someone other than Jacobs at 1.01.

Entering the off-season (ie Jan 2019) I had the 1.02. While not taking much part in the debates over who should or should not be 1.01 - I was very open to players like Brown, Metcalf & a couple of others being 1.01 worthy. After some consideration I decided that if going solely on information held prior to the NFL Draft that AJ Brown would be my 1.01 - and I did take him at 1.01 in a rookie draft that was held prior to the NFL Draft (clarion contrarion can confirm).

Then I acquired the 1.04 in a trade - moving Jarvis Landry as part of my multi-year multi-pronged rebuild strategy. I had been hoping to move Landry for a while but the market was never really there during the 2018 draft. Probably due to the perception by many that 2019 is a weaker class, and of course teams situations changing, I was able to succeed this off-season where I was not last off-season (Jan-Aug 2018).

So that gave me 1.02 & 1.04. I decided to see if I could lock in the 1.01 - so that if AJ Brown DID become the consensus 1.01 I would not get sniped - and you'll see earlier in this thread my comments on that desire (to own the 1.01). In early April I made what I felt was a strong offer to get the 1.01 - some would call it an overpay - I would state from my perspective it was a necessary and justified cost to ensure you get the player you wanted most.

Then of course the NFL Draft happened. And suddenly AJ Brown was no longer in consideration for the 1.01. The only names worth considering - if you followed consensus thinking - were Jacobs & Harry.

As a Raiders fan, I was certainly NOT adverse to taking Jacobs at 1.01. In fact I have done so in other drafts. And I was only adverse to taking Harry due to a dislike of the Patriots. However that dislike has been tempered by a grudging respect, and a willingness to admit that BB knows how to get the most out of his players. So I had no qualms about Harry at 1.01 either.

Up until a few days prior to the DLF HOF draft my plan was to just go in and take both Jacobs and Harry. Why not right? Seemed like the obvious thing to do.

Blame Canada.

Or more specifically Phaded.



Well not exactly. Rather I'll post a link to a thread that served as a cautionary reminder.

https://forum.dynastyleaguefootball.com ... 5&t=179914

What Phaded said is not revolutionary nor is it rocket science. But it was a great reminder at a great time. And I happened to recall it a few days prior to the start of the DLF HOF draft, as I was reviewing the draft history of my other drafts. Cult of Dionysus thread about June drafts also worth a mention too.

The point being is that I went back and reviewed why I was high on a player and why I had them at 1.01 early on. Then I looked specifically at the situation of my DLF HOF team. If any team could wait out a 'poor' situation it was this one. And if Jacobs was as advertised - he might hurt my team more than help out of the gate (if I could not trade him - which as a Raiders fan I'd be loathe to do). IE he'd be good enough to make me better than mediocre - but not good enough to be contender.

So I started mocking to myself different potential 1.01 / 1.02 combos and their appeal to me, and their value going forward.

Jacobs/Harry*
Jacobs/Brown
Jacobs/Hockenson*
Murray** /Hockenson
Harry/Brown
amongst others.

Finally I realized that the 1 player I wanted to come out of this draft was definitely AJ Brown.

So why not take him 1.02?

Well I was open to that, but when push came to shove I knew I could be content taking him at 1.01

Because one thing I have not mentioned is that my suspicion that I was not alone in thinking outside the box, in not following the crowd, in doing what I felt was the right move rather than what everyone thought was the right move.

And because I wanted to recoup some of the cost I had spent to move up to 1.01.

Which meant moving 1 of 1.01 or 1.02.

However I also knew this was a league that did not like to spend much to acquire assets, even ones as historically safe & sound as the 1.01-1.03 picks are (from an odds perspective - not saying they are 100% bullet proof).

And exploring avenues confirmed that. There was very little interest in moving up to 1.01 unless the price was cheap. Luckily there was an owner who had interest in 1.02 - and while the price was not idea - it did recoup approximately half of what I spent (imo) by moving from 1.02 to 1.05. 1.01 & 1.05 is not that vast a difference between 1.02 & 1.04 ...

And take 1 guess who that owner was going to take at 1.02.

If you guessed any name other than AJ Brown then you were not paying attention.

Hopefully he is content with Jacobs at 1.02. IMHO I think Jacobs better suits his team, and I felt sort of like I was handing him an early Christmas gift to the playoffs. But in order to make my team better via trade I have to be willing to allow other owners to get better. A rationale not everyone in this league tends to remember.

Ironically enough had my 1.01 been Harry, as a Raiders fan I probably could have nabbed Jacobs at 1.05 - but I'll let JFever & Valhalla confirm or deny if their choices would have differed.

But yeah that is why AJ Brown was my 1.01 - and as you can see I got another guy in strong consideration for the 1.01 at 1.05*.

Basically this played out as the ideal marriage of sticking with your 1.01 & moving back to pick up value. I did both - although you may disagree.

* - more on him later
** - I told you Valhalla I had considered Murray at 1.01

[ArrylT]

1.05 5. ArrylT - Harry, N'Keal NEP WR (R)

This was one of the tougher choices of my draft season. Not specifically for this draft - just choosing to draft Harry. It meant overcoming a bias against Patriots and for a player that was getting perhaps too much pre-draft hype. However one of the things being a part of DLF should remind you, is to do your best to overcome your biases. A lesson too often easily forgotten.

So I did my best to give him a balanced review, and the combination of metrics, tape & draft pedigree was enough to help me overcome the negatives I had. Not to mention, as previously noted, I firmly believe Belichick is a coach who knows how to play to the strengths of his players. It might not make Harry a WR1, but it should ensure his floor was WR 2/3 at worst, and in a 16 team league, the more guys you can get with safe floors & good upside - the better. Maybe Belichick retires in a year or 2 and so does Brady. Its those first 1-2 years that are crucial in developing good work habits. Yeah I am talking to you Devante Parker. And this is an ideal situation to give him that in spades.

I honestly did not expect to get Harry at 1.05. I figured that knotts moved up from 1.05 to 1.02 to get Harry. Well as I mentioned, it turns out he wanted AJ Brown.

So he took the player, who I felt best fit his team, in Jacobs. I still did not expect Harry at 1.05. But that is ok, I was comfortable taking Hockenson at 1.05. However I forgot that the other owners also like to think outside the box, and are just as willing/stubborn as I am in sticking to our guns. So JFever went Marquise Brown, and Valhallas belief in the format meant Murray was his 1.01.

So basically my move up to 1.01 was a win for everyone - if knotts falls in love with Jacobs at least. Valhalla got to take his 1.01 at a 1.04 cost and gain value. JFever was able to take his #1 guy without fear of being sniped. And I got a guy I could have taken (and have elsewhere) at 1.01 at 1.05. All from the (not so) simple decisions we made.

[ArrylT]

1.15 15. ArrylT - Hockenson, T.J. DET TE (R)

What wait? Did you not just say that Hockenson was in consideration for you at 1.05? How did you get him at 1.15?

Good question. Yes Hockenson, due to a number of factors - league size, historical look at TEs from 1st round pedigree, and college resume - was a guy that I felt comfortable considering strongly as early as 1.02.

This end result of my getting Hockenson at 1.15 is exactly why you have to (a) be willing to take chances, (b) open yourself to moving up/down the draft board and (c) watch how the draft is playing out even when you do not have a pick in close range.

As previously noted, I felt that moving back from 1.01 or 1.02 to recoup some of the draft capital I spent earlier in the off-season was a good idea. And there is no way I could have gotten the trio of AJ Brown, N'Keal Harry & Hockenson, without that effort.

Lets presume for a moment that I stuck at 1.02 & 1.04 and never did the deal to go to 1.01. That would have left me with my 2.01. However that is still 2 picks back, and the 1.16 owner (Dookmariot) would have taken him at 1.16. So regardless I would have needed to move up.

Even sticking at 1.01 & 1.02 I would not have been likely to get Hockenson. Because apart from the most probable outcome was me going AJ Brown & Harry at 1 & 2 - the move back from 1.02 to 1.05 gave me the added capital needed to give the 1.15 owner (ericanadian) with my 2020 2nd to step up and land the 1.15.

It basically took (a) the move back for additional capital (b) the decisions by the owners from 1.06-1.14 to pass on Hockenson and (c) a trade partner with no need at TE and a need for 2020 capital to get me the 1.15.

In other words luck, patience & a willingness to explore possibilities (I sent offers to owners higher than 1.14/1.15). Whether or not Hockenson pans out we shall wait and see - but he is definitely a long term asset I plan to keep on my team (barring a strong offer from another owner down the road).

[ArrylT]

DLF HOF Blockbuster Trade:

Dookmariot gives up

Ezekiel Elliott

TitusYoungsLawyer gives up

DJ Moore
Sony Michel
2020 1st (TYL)
2020 1st (Seventy5)

[ArrylT]

First Post Rookie Draft Waiver Results*:

Plank acquired Pollard, Tony DAL RB for $186.00

Valhalla acquired Anderson, Rodney CIN RB for $140.00

Valhalla acquired Williams, Trayveon CIN RB for $130.00

TitusYoung'sLawyer acquired Renfrow, Hunter OAK WR for $101.00

TitusYoung'sLawyer acquired Dortch, Greg NYJ WR for $79.00

jfever24 dropped Matthews, Rishard NYJ WR
and acquired Holyfield, Elijah CAR RB for $46.00

Plank acquired Pringle, Byron KCC WR for $43.00

dlf_jaronf dropped Seals-Jones, Ricky ARI TE
and acquired Ollison, Qadree ATL RB for $28.00

Plank acquired White Jr., Reggie NYG WR for $23.00

KNOTTS4372 acquired Hall, Emanuel CHI WR for $12.00

Dookmariot dropped Dickson, Ed SEA TE
and acquired Hollister, Jacob SEA TE for $11.00

Valhalla acquired Stidham, Jarrett NEP QB for $11.00

Hockeybjj acquired Sample, Drew CIN TE for $10.00

Hockeybjj acquired Scarlett, Jordan CAR RB for $10.00

KNOTTS4372 acquired Wilson, Caleb ARI TE for $8.00

Valhalla acquired Crockett, Damarea HOU RB for $8.00

ericanadian acquired Higdon, Karan HOU RB for $7.00

KNOTTS4372 acquired Ozigbo, Devine NOS RB for $6.00

ArrylT acquired Fulgham, Travis DET WR for $5.00

Dookmariot dropped Griffin, Ryan FA TE
and acquired Cunningham, Benny JAC RB for $3.00

Plank acquired Alie-Cox, Mo IND TE for $2.00

Seventy5 acquired Godwin, Terry CAR WR for $1.00

ArrylT acquired Sills, David BUF WR for $1.00

ArrylT acquired Kelly, Chad IND QB for $1.00

* - owners get $300 for the entire 2019 year (off-season & regular)

[ArrylT]

DLF HOF Blockbuster Trade:

Dookmariot gives up

Ezekiel Elliott

TitusYoungsLawyer gives up

DJ Moore
Sony Michel
2020 1st (TYL)
2020 1st (Seventy5)

The more I think about this deal, the better I feel it is for TYL (not that it is a bad deal for Dookmariot) - provided Elliott of course does not run afoul of the NFL. That is a discussion for another day - feel free to browse the thread on Elliott, Hunt or Hill if you want perspectives on whether or not these off-field issues should devalue the player themselves. You cannot control the unexpected - so if Elliott retires tomorrow or gets suspended for a year - there is nothing that can be done.

The main problem with 16 team leagues - is that it is hard to amass the assets needed to pay to buy elite players. And as much as I am NOT a fan of the Cowboys, I am fully aware that Elliott is an elite dynasty asset.

For example, in his three years in the league Zeke has never not been an RB1. Yeah, even the year he had a 6 game suspension, he was still an RB1 (12th) in typical ppr, ppc & std formats.

So basically TYL may have sacrificed a lot, but he got a lot in return. Maybe not in volume, but in quality. Ezekiel Elliott, according to Player Profiler, compares quite favorably to Matt Forte.

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/ezekiel-elliott/
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... rtMa00.htm

What point am I trying to get at? Forte, like several other past elite RBs, had a very long career (for an RB). 9 years (2008-2016) in which he had RB1 & RB2 seasons. In other words Elliotts, thanks to his past production, along with other factors, is a very safe bet for a (still) long career in production. Now if you want to focus solely on trade value or perceived value, that may be different. But basically EE is a potential candidate to follow guys like Forte, Gore, AP for 6+ more seasons of RB1-2 production.

Forte was still RB7 at age 30 for example & Peterson was RB19 (this is a 16 team league so that makes him the 3rd best RB2) last year.

Is it guaranteed? No. Nothing in life is. However the odds are favorable. And that is all you can do when considering long term value for dynasty - is which assets are still going to be useful 4-5-6 years down the road. Take this for example. In 2015 I took over an orphan mid-season and Gurleys rookie campaign helped my orphan to the the championship (lost). I tore everything else down. But the 1 piece I did not sell was Gurley (in part because no one wanted to pay anywhere close to what he was worth). 2 years of rebuilding/retooling followed, and then 2018 Gurley & my revamped roster led me to a title.

Maybe due the lack of depth, or the structure of his roster, TYL should not have acquired Elliott. But the thing is that Elliot is safe enough that even if TYL has 1-2 years of struggling, that he'll still be able to provide TYL with that needed production down the road to make a difference. So long as he stays the course.

So yeah he gave some a fair amount of depth & future assets, any of which have a shot at increasing their value a year from now, but he did so for an asset, whose actual value should not change an iota for years. Basically if TYL follows the knotts model* - and refuses to move Zeke through any lean years for pennies on the dollar - he like knotts* will likely come out of any dark tunnel with a bright future ahead.

In other words, as long as he stays the course - this will be likely a win for TitusYoungsLawyer.

* - knotts decision not to sell AB, Bell or Julio at DLF HOF market costs, but to choose to hold them at what their actual production value suggested their worth was has set knotts up (with his other moves) nicely for a 2019 run. And 2 years from now Zeke will still be at the age Leveon Bell is now.

[ericanadian]

First Post Rookie Draft Waiver Results*:

Plank acquired Pollard, Tony DAL RB for $186.00

Valhalla acquired Anderson, Rodney CIN RB for $140.00

Valhalla acquired Williams, Trayveon CIN RB for $130.00

TitusYoung'sLawyer acquired Renfrow, Hunter OAK WR for $101.00

TitusYoung'sLawyer acquired Dortch, Greg NYJ WR for $79.00

jfever24 dropped Matthews, Rishard NYJ WR
and acquired Holyfield, Elijah CAR RB for $46.00

Plank acquired Pringle, Byron KCC WR for $43.00

dlf_jaronf dropped Seals-Jones, Ricky ARI TE
and acquired Ollison, Qadree ATL RB for $28.00

Plank acquired White Jr., Reggie NYG WR for $23.00

KNOTTS4372 acquired Hall, Emanuel CHI WR for $12.00

Dookmariot dropped Dickson, Ed SEA TE
and acquired Hollister, Jacob SEA TE for $11.00

Valhalla acquired Stidham, Jarrett NEP QB for $11.00

Hockeybjj acquired Sample, Drew CIN TE for $10.00

Hockeybjj acquired Scarlett, Jordan CAR RB for $10.00

KNOTTS4372 acquired Wilson, Caleb ARI TE for $8.00

Valhalla acquired Crockett, Damarea HOU RB for $8.00

ericanadian acquired Higdon, Karan HOU RB for $7.00

KNOTTS4372 acquired Ozigbo, Devine NOS RB for $6.00

ArrylT acquired Fulgham, Travis DET WR for $5.00

Dookmariot dropped Griffin, Ryan FA TE
and acquired Cunningham, Benny JAC RB for $3.00

Plank acquired Alie-Cox, Mo IND TE for $2.00

Seventy5 acquired Godwin, Terry CAR WR for $1.00

ArrylT acquired Sills, David BUF WR for $1.00

ArrylT acquired Kelly, Chad IND QB for $1.00

* - owners get $300 for the entire 2019 year (off-season & regular)

Valhalla, making it rain. I had bid on Anderson, but way too rich for my blood. Put a bid on Renfrow as well, but was also blown out of the water. My main issue is that I know I’m going to have to bring my roster back down to 25 in the near future and not really seeing how these guys are going to establish themselves in that time frame.

[ArrylT]

Valhalla, making it rain. I had bid on Anderson, but way too rich for my blood. Put a bid on Renfrow as well, but was also blown out of the water. My main issue is that I know I’m going to have to bring my roster back down to 25 in the near future and not really seeing how these guys are going to establish themselves in that time frame.

Yeah I used to, with leagues that had temporarily expanded rosters, take full advantage of that and max out. But as time went on I found myself more and more sticking closer to the roster limits the league uses in-season.

Each has its pros and cons, so in the end you have to do what you are most comfortable with. It is certainly, at least for myself, a little easier, to decide on having to cut 2-3-4 guys than on 10+.

[ArrylT]

Trade time:

TitusYoung'sLawyer and maxhyde have completed a trade:
TitusYoung'sLawyer gave up Drake, Kenyan MIA RB
and maxhyde gave up Westbrook, Dede JAC WR