Week 3 Preseason Games

[princey98]

David Johnson vs linebackers is not going to be fair.

Ellington is the clear #1, but I can't see Johnson being kept off the field on 3rd downs. His pass protection has looked very good too.

Oakland's LB's (I don't mean Mack, I mean the guys that DJ beat tonight) can't hold a candle to Wagner, Ogletree, Laurantinis, Bowman etc. Not saying Johnson will be totally overmatched, but he won't be able to shake the LB's in his division like he's doing to the Raiders.

[Water Buffalo]

Did anyone watch the Dallas game? I heard McFadden had a good game. What is everyone's take on that backfield competition? Are we thinking RBBC here? Who do you see getting the goalline work?

Quite honestly, McFadden looks a lot better than Randle so far. The key with McFadden will always be health. If he stays healthy, I believe he will definitely be part of the Dallas run offense.

I've thought the same thing while watching them both play. Then again, injuries have always been the problem with McFadden, not necessarily his talent level.

[FantasyFreak]

David Johnson vs linebackers is not going to be fair.

Ellington is the clear #1, but I can't see Johnson being kept off the field on 3rd downs. His pass protection has looked very good too.

Oakland's LB's (I don't mean Mack, I mean the guys that DJ beat tonight) can't hold a candle to the Wagner, Ogletree, Laurantinis, Bowman etc. Not saying Johnson will be totally overmatched, but he won't be able to shake the LB's in his division like he's doing to the Raiders.

He's doing most of his damage against 2nd team units. I think he had 1 catch vs the Raiders first team, and also fumbled after being stuffed on a run. Raiders first team outplayed the Cardinals tonight. The Raiders first team D looks, dare I say...good.

[Water Buffalo]

...let's slow our roll on the Zenner preseason hype train. Joique Bell is a better running back.

Based on what? Draft pedigree? No, they were both undrafted. Measurables? No.

There's no doubt Joique is a more polished pro who is probably much more well versed in understanding plays, protection and other such stuff that comes with experience, but I don't know how you could definitively say that Joique is a better RB than Zenner is, or more accurately, will be better than Zenner going forward since that's all we really care about. Joique has been useful in PPR leagues, but beyond that, it's not like he's ever been even remotely dominant and he's not exactly young either. If I owned Joique, I'd be in full on sell mode if anyone in my league viewed him as a RB2 still. As has been said already, I view him as a completely replaceable talent.

[Telperion]

Of course it's against 2nd team, but he looked very good. Nobody was having much success against Oakland's top unit, Mack was singlehandedly blowing up the Cardinals line all game.

[Friction]

Can we just fast forward 10 days...I can't take preseason any longer..

+ I didn't have any serious injuries to any of my players yet, I bet there's not many owners that can say that..feeling lucky

I was just think g to myself (not out loud as to jinx it) that I was very lucky with all my teams avoiding the injury bug. Then, I watched Cobb get hurt, though I only have him in one redraft league and got him late as far as his ADP. I have good wr depth on that particular team, but still thought having a potential top 10 wr as my number three after Jordys injury was too good to be true. I know the news on him is positive, but get the feeling he might fight some nagging injuries this year. Same thing happened the only other time I have rostered him, and Rodgers, a couple years ago when they both got hurt.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

David Johnson vs linebackers is not going to be fair.

Ellington is the clear #1, but I can't see Johnson being kept off the field on 3rd downs. His pass protection has looked very good too.

Oakland's LB's (I don't mean Mack, I mean the guys that DJ beat tonight) can't hold a candle to the Wagner, Ogletree, Laurantinis, Bowman etc. Not saying Johnson will be totally overmatched, but he won't be able to shake the LB's in his division like he's doing to the Raiders.

He's doing most of his damage against 2nd team units. I think he had 1 catch vs the Raiders first team, and also fumbled after being stuffed on a run. Raiders first team outplayed the Cardinals tonight. The Raiders first team D looks, dare I say...good.

I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure OAK's first team defense was in until the end of the 3rd quarter, possibly until the end of that td drive first play of the 4th. I know Mack was still in through the 3rd. DJ's td catch the 1st play of the 4th quarter was his last game action so the majority if not all his work was done against the 1st team defense.

Pretty tough to judge any runner tonight, both lines were getting blown up. Bad fumble by DJ though of course.

[Coogan Football]

David Johnson vs linebackers is not going to be fair.

Ellington is the clear #1, but I can't see Johnson being kept off the field on 3rd downs. His pass protection has looked very good too.

Oakland's LB's (I don't mean Mack, I mean the guys that DJ beat tonight) can't hold a candle to the Wagner, Ogletree, Laurantinis, Bowman etc. Not saying Johnson will be totally overmatched, but he won't be able to shake the LB's in his division like he's doing to the Raiders.[/quote]

He's doing most of his damage against 2nd team units. I think he had 1 catch vs the Raiders first team, and also fumbled after being stuffed on a run. Raiders first team outplayed the Cardinals tonight. The Raiders first team D looks, dare I say...good.[/quote]

I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure OAK's first team defense was in until the end of the 3rd quarter, possibly until the end of that td drive first play of the 4th. I know Mack was still in through the 3rd. DJ's td catch the 1st play of the 4th quarter was his last game action so the majority if not all his work was done against the 1st team defense.

Pretty tough to judge any runner tonight, both lines were getting blown up. Bad fumble by DJ though of course.[/quote]

Yea those lines looked horrible. I was happy to see Palmer trying to get John Brown the ball right away and with the deep stuff $$

Palmer really does throw a pretty deep ball, if he can stay healthy all year I'll be thrilled with the numbers JoBro puts up

[Confined1]

I think DJ looked great.

[FantasyFreak]

David Johnsons TD was vs Heeney, who IS NOT a starter for the Raiders. I stand corrected, everything else he did was vs starters. To me, he looked like what he is. A converted WR playing RB. Good pass catcher, but 4 carries for -2 yards certainly isn't anything to get excited about. I don't think he'll ever be an every down RB, but could be a good player for PPR leagues, with the amount they seem to want to throw to him.

[Coogan Football]

David Johnsons TD was vs Heeney, who IS NOT a starter for the Raiders. I stand corrected, everything else he did was vs starters. To me, he looked like what he is. A converted WR playing RB. Good pass catcher, but 4 carries for -2 yards certainly isn't anything to get excited about. I don't think he'll ever be an every down RB, but could be a good player for PPR leagues, with the amount they seem to want to throw to him.

Don't get too discouraged, both o-lines got dominated..I don't think you could blame the runners on either team tonight.

[heyfeefellskee]

David Johnson vs linebackers is not going to be fair.

Ellington is the clear #1, but I can't see Johnson being kept off the field on 3rd downs. His pass protection has looked very good too.

Oakland's LB's (I don't mean Mack, I mean the guys that DJ beat tonight) can't hold a candle to Wagner, Ogletree, Laurantinis, Bowman etc. Not saying Johnson will be totally overmatched, but he won't be able to shake the LB's in his division like he's doing to the Raiders.

Really weird, but CBS sports didn't report any stat line for David Johnson from last night, though I know that he played.

[theone]

The ARI OL has looked bad for most of the preseason, both in run and pass blocking. Arians appears too stubborn to adjust his scheme based on his bad OL. My outlook for J Brown decreased this season. I do not see the target increase necessary for a big breakout campaign this year. Ellington and Johnson have received a lot of targets and I believe that continues in the season.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Watched a bit of the Atlanta game. You couldn't get a good read for Coleman as he was stuffed in the backfield on every run. Matt Ryan seemed to miss a lot of throws (I guess not too many as he was 3 for 7 but every miss seemed bad).


As for DJ, you can't take away anything from the stat line. Line was horrible for everyone, and what made it worse for DJ was that they stuck him in there on the most obvious running situations which gave him even less room to run than everyone else. For what it's worth he looks electric when given a little room to operate.

[Gametime675]

David Johnsons TD was vs Heeney, who IS NOT a starter for the Raiders. I stand corrected, everything else he did was vs starters. To me, he looked like what he is. A converted WR playing RB. Good pass catcher, but 4 carries for -2 yards certainly isn't anything to get excited about. I don't think he'll ever be an every down RB, but could be a good player for PPR leagues, with the amount they seem to want to throw to him.

Granted, Heeney is not a starter right NOW but I don't think that lasts long. Have you seen some of his other preseason games? He has closing speed to burn, a crazy acceleration for a man his size. And yet DJ made that look easy.