Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:12 pm

Unless the 23 prospects start returning for 24!

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:30 pm

SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:12 pm Unless the 23 prospects start returning for 24!
Just wait until the 23 class start having kids. I'm stocking up on 2045 class as we speak. Even if I'm a few years early I can trade back a few more years. Imagine thinking it's better value to have the 2022 class!
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

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12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Patsfan86 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:25 am

AZK wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:49 pm Seems to me the early consensus implies that this will be a draft that separates those who do their draft prep vs those that rely on group think.
Already have one guy in my league who has bought into this class being so bad that he says itll be like the 2016 class, i find that laughable. He also doesnt have any picks so im not surprised he is saying this. Here is how i look at the group think, if the majority of people are saying its a good class (2020, 2017) for instance then that seems to usually be true for some reason, thats why im buying hard into 2023. If the majority says its bad that is far less likely to be true (2019 was not bad for instance), im not sure why this is? So this is a class that i think is gonna have a lot of hits at the WR position and people are going to wonder why they let themselves fall into the "Its a bad draft class" trap. Also top tier talent matters a lot and this class doesnt have that, doesnt mean its a bad class though

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby ThunderTung » Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:44 pm

Patsfan86 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:25 am
AZK wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:49 pm Seems to me the early consensus implies that this will be a draft that separates those who do their draft prep vs those that rely on group think.
Already have one guy in my league who has bought into this class being so bad that he says itll be like the 2016 class, i find that laughable. He also doesnt have any picks so im not surprised he is saying this. Here is how i look at the group think, if the majority of people are saying its a good class (2020, 2017) for instance then that seems to usually be true for some reason, thats why im buying hard into 2023. If the majority says its bad that is far less likely to be true (2019 was not bad for instance), im not sure why this is? So this is a class that i think is gonna have a lot of hits at the WR position and people are going to wonder why they let themselves fall into the "Its a bad draft class" trap. Also top tier talent matters a lot and this class doesnt have that, doesnt mean its a bad class though
"bad class" is a bit subjective. I think its more of (at least for fantasy purposes) people are less willing to overpay for top end picks like in '20 or '23 because their is inherently more risk
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr

QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:17 am

ThunderTung wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:44 pm
Patsfan86 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:25 am
AZK wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:49 pm Seems to me the early consensus implies that this will be a draft that separates those who do their draft prep vs those that rely on group think.
Already have one guy in my league who has bought into this class being so bad that he says itll be like the 2016 class, i find that laughable. He also doesnt have any picks so im not surprised he is saying this. Here is how i look at the group think, if the majority of people are saying its a good class (2020, 2017) for instance then that seems to usually be true for some reason, thats why im buying hard into 2023. If the majority says its bad that is far less likely to be true (2019 was not bad for instance), im not sure why this is? So this is a class that i think is gonna have a lot of hits at the WR position and people are going to wonder why they let themselves fall into the "Its a bad draft class" trap. Also top tier talent matters a lot and this class doesnt have that, doesnt mean its a bad class though
"bad class" is a bit subjective. I think its more of (at least for fantasy purposes) people are less willing to overpay for top end picks like in '20 or '23 because their is inherently more risk
This year wasn't supposed to be a good class, said most.
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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Ice » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:56 am

This draft is pretty top heavy with O-Line and D-Line/edge types. These two positions will likely make 13-16 positions. Add in another 8-10 DB/S types and it looks pretty bleak in the skill position department. Maybe 3 QB's, 0 RB's and maybe 4-5 WR's if lucky but none in the top 10.

Not many lock FF studs in this draft. Looks like a way better NFL draft than a fantasy draft.
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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby dondickenson » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:04 am

2022 reminds me a lot of 2019 class minus high end talent at QB and TE. Some second tier RBs, a few top tier WRs, and not too much else going on.

() = Tier level as a prospect

2019
QB Kyler(1), D Jones(2), Haskins(3), Lock(3)
RB Jacobs(2), Sanders(2), Monty(2), Henderson(3), Singletary(3), Harris(4), Pollard(4)
WR Harry(1), Metcalf(1), Brown(1), Brown(2), Campbell(3), Samuel(3), JJAW(4), Diontae(4), McLaurin(4)
TE Hockenson(1), Fant(2), Irv Smith(3)

2022
QB Howell(2), Pickett(2), Corral(2), Strong(2), Willis(3), Ridder(4)
RB Hall(2), Spiller(2), Walker(2), Williams(3), White(3), Cook(4)
WR Burks(1), London(1), Wilson(1), Olave(2), Williams(2), Dotson(3), Robinson(3), Pickens(3), Ross(4)
TE Wydermeyer(3), Likely(3), McBride(3)

Edit:
So about 5(2019) and 3(2022) top tier prospects in each class, and none at RB. Whereas both 2020 and 2021, by my count, have about 8+- top tier prospects each, both with several at the RB position. 2023 looks very similar to 2020 and 2021 at this point. Just my take, and one way to look at it.

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:11 am

dondickenson wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:04 am 2022 reminds me a lot of 2019 class minus high end talent at QB and TE. Some second tier RBs, a few top tier WRs, and not too much else going on.

() = Tier level as a prospect

2019
QB Kyler(1), D Jones(2), Haskins(3), Lock(3)
RB Jacobs(2), Sanders(2), Monty(2), Henderson(3), Singletary(3), Harris(4), Pollard(4)
WR Harry(1), Metcalf(1), Brown(1), Brown(2), Campbell(3), Samuel(3), JJAW(4), Diontae(4), McLaurin(4)
TE Hockenson(1), Fant(2), Irv Smith(3)

2022
QB Howell(2), Pickett(2), Corral(2), Strong(2), Willis(3), Ridder(4)
RB Hall(2), Spiller(2), Walker(2), Williams(3), White(3), Cook(4)
WR Burks(1), London(1), Wilson(1), Olave(2), Williams(2), Dotson(3), Robinson(3), Pickens(3), Ross(4)
TE Wydermeyer(3), Likely(3), McBride(3)

Edit:
So about 5(2019) and 3(2022) top tier prospects in each class, and none at RB. Whereas both 2020 and 2021, by my count, have about 8+- top tier prospects each, both with several at the RB position. 2023 looks very similar to 2020 and 2021 at this point. Just my take, and one way to look at it.
I'd actually struggle to call Metcalf and ajb tier 1 with the 2nd round draft capital. Ajb pre-draft was I'd agree as well. But dk had a ton of question marks

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby ThunderTung » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:11 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:17 am
ThunderTung wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:44 pm
Patsfan86 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:25 am

Already have one guy in my league who has bought into this class being so bad that he says itll be like the 2016 class, i find that laughable. He also doesnt have any picks so im not surprised he is saying this. Here is how i look at the group think, if the majority of people are saying its a good class (2020, 2017) for instance then that seems to usually be true for some reason, thats why im buying hard into 2023. If the majority says its bad that is far less likely to be true (2019 was not bad for instance), im not sure why this is? So this is a class that i think is gonna have a lot of hits at the WR position and people are going to wonder why they let themselves fall into the "Its a bad draft class" trap. Also top tier talent matters a lot and this class doesnt have that, doesnt mean its a bad class though
"bad class" is a bit subjective. I think its more of (at least for fantasy purposes) people are less willing to overpay for top end picks like in '20 or '23 because their is inherently more risk
This year wasn't supposed to be a good class, said most.
my point was that, alot of the times "regular" or "average" classes will get labeled as "bad classes" because people see whats coming in the future, or they saw what was already came, and they dont want to pay the prices to get into the top end of the draft. In reality this class is fine. its not start studded like '20, but its an average class, and thats okay.
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr

QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:13 am

Might be harder to find the gems, but much easier to acquire the picks to try for them as well. I'll take my gambles this year.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
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'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:23 am

Probably way too early to ask this, but I traded away most of my picks for next year. In my Superflex, the first pick I have is in the THIRD ROUND. Are there ANY QBs that may fall to me there? I know, wait and see who is drafted where. Just figured never too early to start building a list of players. Thanks.
D3:
QB—Allen RB—Kamara, Jacobs, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Harrison, TILLMAN, Marshall, Jefferson TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington KRAFT PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC RB—BIJAN, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, HULL, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Diggs, Adams, Allen, TILLMAN, Boyd, Woods, HUTCHINSON, DOUGLAS TE—Kelce, Kmet, Schultz, Parham PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, Howell RB—BIJAN, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, HULL, GRAY WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, Myers, Hardman, Reynolds BOUTTE TE—Kmet, Smith, Hurst, Ertz, KRAFT PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: BIJAN, BRob, ZWhite, Hines, TDP, McLaughlin WR: Higgins, JSN, JWilliams, DJM, RMoore, DOWNS, Atwell, TILLMAN, BOUTTE, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, CJONES TE: Trautman, Ferguson, KRAFT, Hooper

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:25 am

For example: here are the QBs that went in the third and fourth round in my league:

3.01 Mond (R)
3.06 Trask (R)
3.08 Mills (R)
3.11 Tyrod Taylor

Mills would have been the example here I guess of a late round QB that may turn into something.
D3:
QB—Allen RB—Kamara, Jacobs, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Harrison, TILLMAN, Marshall, Jefferson TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington KRAFT PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC RB—BIJAN, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, HULL, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Diggs, Adams, Allen, TILLMAN, Boyd, Woods, HUTCHINSON, DOUGLAS TE—Kelce, Kmet, Schultz, Parham PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, Howell RB—BIJAN, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, HULL, GRAY WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, Myers, Hardman, Reynolds BOUTTE TE—Kmet, Smith, Hurst, Ertz, KRAFT PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: BIJAN, BRob, ZWhite, Hines, TDP, McLaughlin WR: Higgins, JSN, JWilliams, DJM, RMoore, DOWNS, Atwell, TILLMAN, BOUTTE, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, CJONES TE: Trautman, Ferguson, KRAFT, Hooper

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby ThunderTung » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:28 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:23 am Probably way too early to ask this, but I traded away most of my picks for next year. In my Superflex, the first pick I have is in the THIRD ROUND. Are there ANY QBs that may fall to me there? I know, wait and see who is drafted where. Just figured never too early to start building a list of players. Thanks.
Hard to say for SF for me, i'd imagine most of the high upside QB's will be gone by then. Although last year, in a stacked QB draft, the only available first round QB left in my 1QB league in the 3rd round was Wilson. I have to imagine in a weaker QB class, in SF the best your gonna get is a 3rd/4th round flyer at QB. That said, IMO this is not the year to go after a QB
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr

QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:31 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:23 am Probably way too early to ask this, but I traded away most of my picks for next year. In my Superflex, the first pick I have is in the THIRD ROUND. Are there ANY QBs that may fall to me there? I know, wait and see who is drafted where. Just figured never too early to start building a list of players. Thanks.
Superflex is a bit out of my jurisdiction, but I would think with this being a "down class" for QB's you might actually see a name dribble into the 3rd. Obviously Corral, Howell, and Pickett should all be gone, but you might see Malik Willis. Better chances of seeing a Carson Strong or Ridder. They're bench riders for year+, but if given the right situation might hold their own.

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:46 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:31 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:23 am Probably way too early to ask this, but I traded away most of my picks for next year. In my Superflex, the first pick I have is in the THIRD ROUND. Are there ANY QBs that may fall to me there? I know, wait and see who is drafted where. Just figured never too early to start building a list of players. Thanks.
Superflex is a bit out of my jurisdiction, but I would think with this being a "down class" for QB's you might actually see a name dribble into the 3rd. Obviously Corral, Howell, and Pickett should all be gone, but you might see Malik Willis. Better chances of seeing a Carson Strong or Ridder. They're bench riders for year+, but if given the right situation might hold their own.
Cool, thanks!
D3:
QB—Allen RB—Kamara, Jacobs, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Harrison, TILLMAN, Marshall, Jefferson TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington KRAFT PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC RB—BIJAN, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, HULL, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Diggs, Adams, Allen, TILLMAN, Boyd, Woods, HUTCHINSON, DOUGLAS TE—Kelce, Kmet, Schultz, Parham PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, Howell RB—BIJAN, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, HULL, GRAY WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, Myers, Hardman, Reynolds BOUTTE TE—Kmet, Smith, Hurst, Ertz, KRAFT PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: BIJAN, BRob, ZWhite, Hines, TDP, McLaughlin WR: Higgins, JSN, JWilliams, DJM, RMoore, DOWNS, Atwell, TILLMAN, BOUTTE, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, CJONES TE: Trautman, Ferguson, KRAFT, Hooper


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