Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby halfbaked88 » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:12 pm

Minshew is starting tomorrow... They're playing the Jets.

Hahaha.

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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:21 pm

halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:12 pm Minshew is starting tomorrow... They're playing the Jets.

Hahaha.
Did Hurts get injured?
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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby halfbaked88 » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:23 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:21 pm
halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:12 pm Minshew is starting tomorrow... They're playing the Jets.

Hahaha.
Did Hurts get injured?
Dealing with ankle injury.

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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby Ice » Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:08 pm

halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:23 pm
Pac_Eddy wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:21 pm
halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:12 pm Minshew is starting tomorrow... They're playing the Jets.

Hahaha.
Did Hurts get injured?
Dealing with ankle injury.
Let the tanking begin! 😀
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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:31 pm

halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:12 pm Minshew is starting tomorrow... They're playing the Jets.

Hahaha.
Is Minshew mania about to take hold of Philly?
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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby Anteaters » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:13 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:21 pm
halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:12 pm Minshew is starting tomorrow... They're playing the Jets.

Hahaha.
Did Hurts get injured?
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
I have Hurts in one super deep league and I really need to win this week. Now I have to decide between Minshew or Cam. :wall:

EDIT: Whoops, Cam's on bye this week. Minshew it is.
FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:31 pm Is Minshew mania about to take hold of Philly?
I hope Minshew gives Philly reason to do so! I have a feeling all of Philly's top skill players are going to have big games with the QB switch. Time to get Sanders out there. Unfortunately for the team in my sig, I'm not sure if I can get Sanders in the lineup this week. :think:
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Tre Tucker, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
IR: Mike Williams (WR), Joey Bosa (DL)
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby ThunderTung » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:00 am

Anteaters wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:13 am
Pac_Eddy wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:21 pm
halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:12 pm Minshew is starting tomorrow... They're playing the Jets.

Hahaha.
Did Hurts get injured?
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
I have Hurts in one super deep league and I really need to win this week. Now I have to decide between Minshew or Cam. :wall:

EDIT: Whoops, Cam's on bye this week. Minshew it is.
FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:31 pm Is Minshew mania about to take hold of Philly?
I hope Minshew gives Philly reason to do so! I have a feeling all of Philly's top skill players are going to have big games with the QB switch. Time to get Sanders out there. Unfortunately for the team in my sig, I'm not sure if I can get Sanders in the lineup this week. :think:
After I decided to sit Goedert earlier in the week, I started to feel the same. Still a bit hesitant to start him though :think:
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr

QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
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QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby honcho55 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:55 am

Now I’m seeing Hurts/Minshew is game time decision? Ugh.

I’m switching all my leagues to team QB
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT

QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby abloom » Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:45 am

Hopefully minshew starts and we can see what smith and goeddert look like with a semi competent passer.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

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12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

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R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:12 am

Anteaters wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:13 am
Pac_Eddy wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:21 pm
halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:12 pm Minshew is starting tomorrow... They're playing the Jets.

Hahaha.
Did Hurts get injured?
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
I have Hurts in one super deep league and I really need to win this week. Now I have to decide between Minshew or Cam. :wall:

EDIT: Whoops, Cam's on bye this week. Minshew it is.
FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:31 pm Is Minshew mania about to take hold of Philly?
I hope Minshew gives Philly reason to do so! I have a feeling all of Philly's top skill players are going to have big games with the QB switch. Time to get Sanders out there. Unfortunately for the team in my sig, I'm not sure if I can get Sanders in the lineup this week. :think:
I would have zero confidence starting Sanders regardless of what QB was in there. Howard is out, but Scott is expected to play, and so Gainwell will likely see a few touches as well. Is this the game Sanders scores his first TD of the season? Maybe, but I'm glad I don't have to try and figure that out. :lol:
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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby halfbaked88 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:55 am

abloom wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:45 am Hopefully minshew starts and we can see what smith and goeddert look like with a semi competent passer.
This is bad for Hurts owners. I absolutely called this at some point. It's better than Hurts being benched outright, it's through injury, but either way, you are getting film on another QB behind the offense.

I follow Philly closely because I live here, if Minshew shows ANY competence there will be controversy in the locker room. This organization flips on players and coaches like it's nothing. Ertz was getting shunned by fans and radio shows when all he wanted was to get paid for being a major part of this team for years.

If I had to guess, Hurts is now going to try everything he can to get on the field today to avoid a situation where the backup QB starts for "one game" and ends up taking the starting job. Which has happened many times on other teams in the past.

You gotta think Minshew looks pretty good against NYJ.

But having an easy matchup, I have a feeling they might lean on the run. Still, if Minshew can put up 220 yds, 1TD, no INTs and the Eagles win... You know that's going to create a divide within the locker room, the fans and coaches....

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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:16 am

halfbaked88 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:55 am
abloom wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:45 am Hopefully minshew starts and we can see what smith and goeddert look like with a semi competent passer.
This is bad for Hurts owners. I absolutely called this at some point. It's better than Hurts being benched outright, it's through injury, but either way, you are getting film on another QB behind the offense.

I follow Philly closely because I live here, if Minshew shows ANY competence there will be controversy in the locker room. This organization flips on players and coaches like it's nothing. Ertz was getting shunned by fans and radio shows when all he wanted was to get paid for being a major part of this team for years.

If I had to guess, Hurts is now going to try everything he can to get on the field today to avoid a situation where the backup QB starts for "one game" and ends up taking the starting job. Which has happened many times on other teams in the past.

You gotta think Minshew looks pretty good against NYJ.

But having an easy matchup, I have a feeling they might lean on the run. Still, if Minshew can put up 220 yds, 1TD, no INTs and the Eagles win... You know that's going to create a divide within the locker room, the fans and coaches....
This was always a possibility. It's not like the fan base or management are sold on Hurts. Some of the fan base were hyping Hurts this off season, and many of those same people have already turned on him after seeing the reality of his limitations. My guess is their long term QB is not on their roster. The QB controversy, if any, will be short lived. I mean, let's face it. Both of these guys as starters will only leave them floundering in mediocrity, and Philly still has the dying taste of that SB win in their mouths. They want to wet that pallet again. They are about to lock in a 3rd first round pick with Wentz approaching the required number very soon. I still expect a move for a good vet or drafting a rookie as a very real possibility. That we shall have to wait and see on. However for this season, if Minshew looks really good and opens up the offense, there may be a decision that needs to be made. At 6-7, they wouldn't be completely out of the running for that last playoff spot.
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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby halfbaked88 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:19 am

Fun Fact: Over the last 8 weeks, Jalen Hurts has had one game with over 200 passing yards.

One.

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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby mild » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:25 am

halfbaked88 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:19 am Fun Fact: Over the last 8 weeks, Jalen Hurts has had one game with over 200 passing yards.
Fun Fact: Over the last 12 weeks, Jalen Hurts has outscored Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, and Joseph Burrow in standard scoring leagues and is the current QB6 on the year.

Your stat is as meaningless as mine. 8-)

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Re: Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:38 am

mild wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:25 am
halfbaked88 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:19 am Fun Fact: Over the last 8 weeks, Jalen Hurts has had one game with over 200 passing yards.
Fun Fact: Over the last 12 weeks, Jalen Hurts has outscored Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, and Joseph Burrow in standard scoring leagues and is the current QB6 on the year.

Your stat is as meaningless as mine. 8-)
I think this is more that people are talking about 2 separate realities in this case. He's pointing out that in a real football situation, this is terrible and not sustainable for a starting QB in the NFL, while you are pointing out FF stats. It IS a FF website, but it's also a Dynasty one. I think the divide here is, he's saying Hurts isn't long for a starting gig with these types of numbers. Hurts has been fantastic for anyone who has been using him in their FF lineup, and honestly, for a 2nd round pick in a SF, even if you get only 1 year out of him, but it's top 5 QB numbers, it's still probably a win for you with that pick.
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